saudi arabia is probably the biggest funder of terrorist activities in the middle east ... they enjoy that luxury because the US and the house of Saud are tied at the hip ... ever since they got cozy with the states and the US ensured their supply of oil - both sides turn a blind eye to the atrocities ...
the reality of the situation is that the US has no business in the middle east - they are only there to protect the interests of big corporations ... that is all - it's all about imperialism and money ...
This is bang on the money.
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a quick correction, Iranians are Arabs, they're Persians
Another quick correction, Iranians are NOT arabs, they're Persians. The term Persians is actually very old. It's like calling the Italians for Romans. They are Iranians and not Arabs. They don't speak the same language, they don't speak arabic.
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Where does it say anything about bush ocestrating the attacks?
Some how i am getting from this reply that you don't get it.
what you and pivol are trying to say is that bush and his cronies orchestrated 9/11 in order to have a justification for going into the already planned out war in Afghanistan.
You also don't relise that Afganistan was not always run by the taliban and was indeed a decent country until the CIA decided that it was not what they wanted and went about funding the the fundementalists to try and get back at russia.
not everything is the fault of the USA spiral. you need to understand this. learn the history of the taliban before you go shooting your mouth off.
afgah was a decent country until the CIA came in? are you fucking kidding me? afgan would have been a soviet province had we not gotten involved.
we werent funding "fundementalists". we were funding the northern alliance (who we are still friends with today) and other afgan groups.
the taliban originated in Pakistan. not because of US involvement. you once again have shown your complete ignorance to history. if all else fails blame the US. we must have done it.
hard to say for sure, since there's been no real investigation. but it was likely the intelligence services of a few countries... us, england, israel, pakistan. all working for the big banking interests.
i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
hard to say for sure, since there's been no real investigation. but it was likely the intelligence services of a few countries... us, england, israel, pakistan. all working for the big banking interests.
all these agencies involved from multiple countries and many many people and not ONE person has come forward?????
what you and pivol are trying to say is that bush and his cronies orchestrated 9/11 in order to have a justification for going into the already planned out war in Afghanistan. .
I see you have nothing to say on the actual links that were posted so you are reverting back to your old bush is responsible for the attacks crap. Who carried out the attacks is not in discussion here.
not everything is the fault of the USA spiral. you need to understand this. learn the history of the taliban before you go shooting your mouth off.
afgah was a decent country until the CIA came in? are you fucking kidding me? afgan would have been a soviet province had we not gotten involved.
we werent funding "fundementalists". we were funding the northern alliance (who we are still friends with today) and other afgan groups.
the taliban originated in Pakistan. not because of US involvement. you once again have shown your complete ignorance to history. if all else fails blame the US. we must have done it.
Yes maybe you should start brushing up on history, but maybe invest in a book that is not from high school and you will understand things a little more clearly.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
all these agencies involved from multiple countries and many many people and not ONE person has come forward?????
amazing isnt it?
it is, yea. a thorough investigation of the financing would tell us a lot. but the 911 commission decided that wasn't important. who cares if the ISI wired $100,000 to mohammed atta? and who cares that porter goss and bob graham were meeting with someone from the ISI on the morning of 911. that doesn't mean anything - pure coincidence. and who cares about all the put options on the airlines in the weeks prior to 911? that couldn't have been foreknowledge.. it was sly investing.
i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
Yes maybe you should start brushing up on history, but maybe invest in a book that is not from high school and you will understand things a little more clearly.
what is it I'm missing here? you are suggesting we fucked up Afghanistan because of US involvement in the 80s. and that we somehow created the taliban. neither of which are true.
it is, yea. a thorough investigation of the financing would tell us a lot. but the 911 commission decided that wasn't important. who cares if the ISI wired $100,000 to mohammed atta? and who cares that porter goss and bob graham were meeting with someone from the ISI on the morning of 911. that doesn't mean anything - pure coincidence. and who cares about all the put options on the airlines in the weeks prior to 911? that couldn't have been foreknowledge.. it was sly investing.
so you have proof of nothing. just checkin. even some of these claims are not proven. its just internet hearsay which you suck right up as fact.
so you have proof of nothing. just checkin. even some of these claims are not proven. its just internet hearsay which you suck right up as fact.
prove to me that osama bin laden ordered the attacks. all you have is gov't/mainstream media hearsay that you suck right up.
the pentagon isn't going to issue any official press releases about any of their involvement. it's ok to consider information that doesn't come out of your tv speakers.
i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
prove to me that osama bin laden ordered the attacks. all you have is gov't/mainstream media hearsay that you suck right up.
the pentagon isn't going to issue any official press releases about any of their involvement. it's ok to consider information that doesn't come out of your tv speakers.
he admitted it for one thing. and I'm not going to dig up the overwhelming evidence that points to el queda.
what is it I'm missing here? you are suggesting we fucked up Afghanistan because of US involvement in the 80s. and that we somehow created the taliban. neither of which are true.
In 1978 the peoples democratic party of Afghanistan held a coup and overthrew the regime that was in power there. This party turned the country around gave free health care to the poorest, started the a mass literacy campaign when 90% of the population was illiterate, granted freedom of religion equal rights. By the late 80's half of the university's student population was female.
The problem with the peoples democratic party of Afghanistan was that it was said to be funded by the soviet union although there is no proof at all that they backed the coup which was bullshit propaganda, which obviously you guys didn't like. So in 1979 carter authorised a $500 million covert action programme in support of the mujahedin with the aim of overthrowing the first circular progressive government.
So are you seriously telling me you didn't create the Taliban?
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The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
the translation of his tapes are always made by al jazerra well before they even get into US hands.
The grainy video in question was I think found by the americans in a home someplace in afghanistan. It was not sent to al jazerra or some web site.
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In 1978 the peoples democratic party of Afghanistan held a coup and overthrew the regime that was in power there. This party turned the country around gave free health care to the poorest, started the a mass literacy campaign when 90% of the population was illiterate, granted freedom of religion equal rights. By the late 80's half of the university's student population was female.
The problem with the peoples democratic party of Afghanistan was that it was said to be funded by the soviet union although there is no proof at all that they backed the coup which was bullshit propaganda, which obviously you guys didn't like. So in 1979 carter authorised a $500 million covert action programme in support of the mujahedin with the aim of overthrowing the first circular progressive government.
So are you seriously telling me you didn't create the Taliban?
yes thats what I'm telling you. I guess a better question is whether or not it was a good thing to help defeat the soviets in afgan or sit back and let them perform genocide on the country.
the taliban originated due to the infighting between afgan warlords and a religious extremist movement in pakistan.
The grainy video in question was I think found by the americans in a home someplace in afghanistan. It was not sent to al jazerra or some web site.
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cuz you say so I guess. regardless were are all the muslim speaking people saying its not true? US must have "taken them out"
cuz you say so I guess. regardless were are all the muslim speaking people saying its not true? US must have "taken them out"
from: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/terrorism/july-dec01/video_12-13a.html "The tape bore a label indicating it was made on November 9. Administration officials wouldn't reveal exactly how or when they got it, except to say it was found in a house in Jalalabad after anti-Taliban forces moved in. The U.S. Government translated the Arabic conversation and provided subtitles."
so these "anti-taliban forces" were going through houses in a large city watching video tapes? did our tax money pay for the popcorn? and, they just got lucky enough to come across a bin laden confession tape that was laying around. wow. go anti-taliban forces!
and since the u.s. gov't, not al jazeera, translated and subtitled it, it must be legit. disregard the fact that the "osama" in the video has let himself go a bit, and is writing with the wrong hand. i know when i tape myself having a casual conversation with my buddies about launching massive terror attacks, i first like to prep with a few sacks of white castles, and then i like to scribble notes with my off hand.
i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
yes thats what I'm telling you. I guess a better question is whether or not it was a good thing to help defeat the soviets in afgan or sit back and let them perform genocide on the country.
the taliban originated due to the infighting between afgan warlords and a religious extremist movement in pakistan.
First things first thats not what you were telling me. I think you are unable to understand what you read somtimes. What i said was completely different to what you wrote.
When were the soviets going to commit genocide in afganistain? was that after you started backing the mujahedin to fight the soviets? I was actually talking about before you spent $500 million messing things up.
So again who was responsible for training the people who went on to form the Taliban?
Edit: I'll answer that for you, the CIA and ISI.
Now answer me a question are the CIA Amercian?
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
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This is bang on the money.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Another quick correction, Iranians are NOT arabs, they're Persians. The term Persians is actually very old. It's like calling the Italians for Romans. They are Iranians and not Arabs. They don't speak the same language, they don't speak arabic.
You don't have to run and hide away
It's okay, it's okay
I love you anyway
2007: Pearl Jam concert in Düsseldorf (21. June)
2007: Chris Cornell concert in Kristiansand (2. July)
2007: The Who concert in Kristiansand (4. July)
what you and pivol are trying to say is that bush and his cronies orchestrated 9/11 in order to have a justification for going into the already planned out war in Afghanistan.
the taliban allowed el queda free reign in afganistan.
not everything is the fault of the USA spiral. you need to understand this. learn the history of the taliban before you go shooting your mouth off.
afgah was a decent country until the CIA came in? are you fucking kidding me? afgan would have been a soviet province had we not gotten involved.
we werent funding "fundementalists". we were funding the northern alliance (who we are still friends with today) and other afgan groups.
the taliban originated in Pakistan. not because of US involvement. you once again have shown your complete ignorance to history. if all else fails blame the US. we must have done it.
hard to say for sure, since there's been no real investigation. but it was likely the intelligence services of a few countries... us, england, israel, pakistan. all working for the big banking interests.
all these agencies involved from multiple countries and many many people and not ONE person has come forward?????
amazing isnt it?
I see you have nothing to say on the actual links that were posted so you are reverting back to your old bush is responsible for the attacks crap. Who carried out the attacks is not in discussion here.
Yes maybe you should start brushing up on history, but maybe invest in a book that is not from high school and you will understand things a little more clearly.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
it is, yea. a thorough investigation of the financing would tell us a lot. but the 911 commission decided that wasn't important. who cares if the ISI wired $100,000 to mohammed atta? and who cares that porter goss and bob graham were meeting with someone from the ISI on the morning of 911. that doesn't mean anything - pure coincidence. and who cares about all the put options on the airlines in the weeks prior to 911? that couldn't have been foreknowledge.. it was sly investing.
what is it I'm missing here? you are suggesting we fucked up Afghanistan because of US involvement in the 80s. and that we somehow created the taliban. neither of which are true.
so you have proof of nothing. just checkin. even some of these claims are not proven. its just internet hearsay which you suck right up as fact.
prove to me that osama bin laden ordered the attacks. all you have is gov't/mainstream media hearsay that you suck right up.
the pentagon isn't going to issue any official press releases about any of their involvement. it's ok to consider information that doesn't come out of your tv speakers.
he admitted it for one thing. and I'm not going to dig up the overwhelming evidence that points to el queda.
oh did he? who told you that? some grainy video with poor audio of a fat bearded man speaking in a language that you don't know?
the translation of his tapes are always made by al jazerra well before they even get into US hands.
In 1978 the peoples democratic party of Afghanistan held a coup and overthrew the regime that was in power there. This party turned the country around gave free health care to the poorest, started the a mass literacy campaign when 90% of the population was illiterate, granted freedom of religion equal rights. By the late 80's half of the university's student population was female.
The problem with the peoples democratic party of Afghanistan was that it was said to be funded by the soviet union although there is no proof at all that they backed the coup which was bullshit propaganda, which obviously you guys didn't like. So in 1979 carter authorised a $500 million covert action programme in support of the mujahedin with the aim of overthrowing the first circular progressive government.
So are you seriously telling me you didn't create the Taliban?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
The grainy video in question was I think found by the americans in a home someplace in afghanistan. It was not sent to al jazerra or some web site.
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yes thats what I'm telling you. I guess a better question is whether or not it was a good thing to help defeat the soviets in afgan or sit back and let them perform genocide on the country.
the taliban originated due to the infighting between afgan warlords and a religious extremist movement in pakistan.
cuz you say so I guess. regardless were are all the muslim speaking people saying its not true? US must have "taken them out"
from: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/terrorism/july-dec01/video_12-13a.html
"The tape bore a label indicating it was made on November 9. Administration officials wouldn't reveal exactly how or when they got it, except to say it was found in a house in Jalalabad after anti-Taliban forces moved in. The U.S. Government translated the Arabic conversation and provided subtitles."
so these "anti-taliban forces" were going through houses in a large city watching video tapes? did our tax money pay for the popcorn? and, they just got lucky enough to come across a bin laden confession tape that was laying around. wow. go anti-taliban forces!
and since the u.s. gov't, not al jazeera, translated and subtitled it, it must be legit. disregard the fact that the "osama" in the video has let himself go a bit, and is writing with the wrong hand. i know when i tape myself having a casual conversation with my buddies about launching massive terror attacks, i first like to prep with a few sacks of white castles, and then i like to scribble notes with my off hand.
First things first thats not what you were telling me. I think you are unable to understand what you read somtimes. What i said was completely different to what you wrote.
When were the soviets going to commit genocide in afganistain? was that after you started backing the mujahedin to fight the soviets? I was actually talking about before you spent $500 million messing things up.
So again who was responsible for training the people who went on to form the Taliban?
Edit: I'll answer that for you, the CIA and ISI.
Now answer me a question are the CIA Amercian?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.