Isreal, Arabs, Iraq, and Iran

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  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so then you feel an attack on America would be justified?

    well, if some middle eastern country had been bombing us for 17 years, wouldn't you want to retaliate?
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    DPrival78 wrote:
    well, if some middle eastern country had been bombing us for 17 years, wouldn't you want to retaliate?

    was that a yes?
  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    jlew24asu wrote:
    was that a yes?

    it's not justified, but would it be a shock?

    what about my question?
    i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    DPrival78 wrote:
    it's not justified,
    ok
    DPrival78 wrote:
    but would it be a shock?
    no, el queda has sworn to attack us again. I believe them
    DPrival78 wrote:
    iwhat about my question?

    did you see charlie wilson's war? its a good flick. shows how we helped most of the same people who are against us now. world is a crazy place.
  • hrd2imgn
    hrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,924
    godpt3 wrote:
    because the western world still has a guilt complex over the holocaust.

    don't pull holocaust bullshit

    we already know what they have, we fucking gave it to them.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Open wrote:
    "You cannot expect people to believe in the promise of a better future when they are jailed for peacefully petitioning their government," Bush said. "And you cannot stand up a modern, confident nation when you do not allow people to voice their legitimate criticisms."


    Yeah, only this Cheney/Bush administration should be able to get away with that!!!

    Who do they think they are, Bush, Cheney......America? What nerve they have!!!!
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Big surprise....

    Bush goes to Israel to talk about peace, the stupid boating incident happens, and now he's talking about war with Iran.

    They're not even trying to hide it anymore.

    Iran is coming one way or another...bombs will drop there soon. In 2008 for sure.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    jlew24asu wrote:
    did you see charlie wilson's war? its a good flick. shows how we helped most of the same people who are against us now. world is a crazy place.

    just like we supported saddam when he gassed his own people, and then used that event, among other things, to scare the public into supporting the takeover of iraq.

    we use countries to get what we want, and then when they cease to be useful, we obliterate them.

    crazy world indeed.
    i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Big surprise....

    Bush goes to Israel to talk about peace, the stupid boating incident happens, and now he's talking about war with Iran.

    They're not even trying to hide it anymore.

    Iran is coming one way or another...bombs will drop there soon. In 2008 for sure.

    and hillary, obama, edwards, mccain, guiliani, huckabee and thompson are all for it.
    i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    DPrival78 wrote:
    just like we supported saddam when he gassed his own people, and then used that event, among other things, to scare the public into supporting the takeover of iraq.

    we use countries to get what we want, and then when they cease to be useful, we obliterate them.

    crazy world indeed.

    we obliterate them? what benefit did we get from arming the mujhadeen against the soviets? 2 things. stop afgah suffering and help defeat our cold war enemy indirectly. who did we "obliterate" after the soviets left?

    its young people like you who know nothing about history prior to 2003 that make it difficult to have discussions.
  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    jlew24asu wrote:
    we obliterate them? what benefit did we get from arming the mujhadeen against the soviets? 2 things. stop afgah suffering and help defeat our cold war enemy indirectly. who did we "obliterate" after the soviets left?

    um.. we've been at war in afghanistan for 6 years.. we let them be for 20 years, but when the taliban decided that they didn't want to cooperate with western oil companies to build and secure a pipeline to the caspian sea, we started bombing.
    jlew24asu wrote:
    its young people like you who know nothing about history prior to 2003 that make it difficult to have discussions.

    ok grampa
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    DPrival78 wrote:
    and hillary, obama, edwards, mccain, guiliani, huckabee and thompson are all for it.

    I wouldn't say they are all for it so much as they are not against it.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I wouldn't say they are all for it so much as they are not against it.

    yea, but is there really a difference though? it's unlikely that they are going to stop it. i'd say that they would at the very least wage a soft, clinton-style iraq war - some bombing, coupled with harsh economic sanctions that bring the country to its knees.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    DPrival78 wrote:
    um.. we've been at war in afghanistan for 6 years.. we let them be for 20 years, but when the taliban decided that they didn't want to cooperate with western oil companies to build and secure a pipeline to the caspian sea, we started bombing.

    um we started bombing when we were attacked on 9/11. its also the sole reason why we attacked. amazing how you can not admit that.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    jlew24asu wrote:
    um we started bombing when we were attacked on 9/11. its also the sole reason why we attacked. amazing how you can not admit that.

    Bush and his super secret squad of supergeniuses attacked us on 9/11. you are so blind to the TRUTH!
  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    jlew24asu wrote:
    um we started bombing when we were attacked on 9/11. its also the sole reason why we attacked. amazing how you can not admit that.

    i won't admit it because i don't believe it to be true. the taliban was in negotiations with western energy companies in the late 1990's to build this pipeline. the plans fell through. the plans for war went into motion then. 9/11 provided a more easy to swallow pretext.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1550366.stm

    "To be truthful about it, there was no way we could have got the public consent to have suddenly launched a campaign on Afghanistan but for what happened on September 11."
    Tony Blair. July 17, 2002
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1036571,00.html
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    MrSmith wrote:
    Bush and his super secret squad of supergeniuses attacked us on 9/11. you are so blind to the TRUTH!

    it just leaves me speechless sometimes.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    jlew24asu wrote:
    cuz America is the biggest terrorist state in the world right? just checkin
    Yes, and that's not even an opinion, pretty much accepted. The US is behind more terrorist attacks and state sponsored terrorism than any 10 countries or groups. I can give you some details if you have the stomach.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    jlew24asu wrote:
    it just leaves me speechless sometimes.
    jlew, I don't agree with you on much. But I support you in this thread.

    WE WERE FUCKING ATTACKED FOR GOD KNOWS WHAT REASON, AND THEN WE WENT TO ATTACK THOSE WHO ATTACKED US.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    keeponrockin wrote:
    jlew, I don't agree with you on much. But I support you in this thread.

    WE WERE FUCKING ATTACKED FOR GOD KNOWS WHAT REASON, AND THEN WE WENT TO ATTACK THOSE WHO ATTACKED US.
    You realize Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11?

    And something like 90% of the American people believed Saddam had something to do with it pre invasion. That's almost absolute information control.

    Nothin propa bout your progaganda.

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