KicKing "Dubya" in the TeetH

KosmicJelli

SpreadtheJAM wrote:

The real crime is on that record $40 billion profit XOM earned it was taxed a record $29.8 billion. The U.S. has the second highest corporate tax rate in the world thats the real crime.

OMG... no what the CRIME is???

Indirect CORPORATE WELFARE as corporations pay their employees minimum wage while the government picks up their food, rent and medical bills... so they can give money to their stock holders... pffft..

KosmicJelli

Fighting Hellfish wrote:

I think the big thing to come out of this was the way he handled the telecom immunity. He said:

Allowing these lawsuits to proceed would be unfair. If any of these companies helped us, they did so after being told by our government that their assistance was legal and vital to our national security.

He doesn't say that what they did was legal, he says they were told by the Bush Administration that it was legal. Big difference

I know... heard that too... plus the fact that had a "responsibility" to their shareholders....

What happened to the fact that investments are just like gambling...

if I go to the casino and slip a quarter in the machine, the casino does not have the "responsibility" to give me ten more quarters since I gave them my one...

SpreadtheJAM

KosmicJelli wrote:

OMG... no what the CRIME is???

Indirect CORPORATE WELFARE as corporations pay their employees minimum wage while the government picks up their food, rent and medical bills... so they can give money to their stock holders... pffft..

Go buy some stock then.

KosmicJelli

SpreadtheJAM wrote:

Go buy some stock then.

Not part of my ethics...

buying stock...

SpreadtheJAM

KosmicJelli wrote:

Not part of my ethics...

buying stock...

buying stock isn't part of your ethics? What do you live off the land or something? i hope you grow your own cotton and weave your own clothes, raise your own free range chicken and live in a log cabin, if you are that disgusted with corporate doings.

stupidcorporatewhore

SpreadtheJAM wrote:

The real crime is on that record $40 billion profit XOM earned it was taxed a record $29.8 billion. The U.S. has the second highest corporate tax rate in the world thats the real crime.

And we wonder why we're fucked!


unless you are a CEO of a multinational corporation, you are working against your own kind.

BTW the expensive gas you speak of in Europe is helping to pay their Universal Health care

I'm just saying.

ArmsinaV

Its Evolution Baby wrote:

That could be true but I was not talking about social programs. I was talking general issues that Republicans TEND to be against.


Tax Increase on Super Wealthy: Can help fund military, education, social security without raising taxes on the Middle Class who need every cent.
Reason Republicans are against it: They are all Super Wealthy.

There are others but I have to go back to work now...

If you are not talking about social programs, why do you mention education and social security? What kind of programs are those?

Tax cuts for the "super wealthy" under Reagan increased government revenue over time. Reagan spent more than came in (defecits) to outarm the Soviets, but more money was generated. I don't know the stats on Bush's run, but I would say with him - like Reagan - his spending has been his problem. Bush has spent MUCH more on education than any other president, too, with NCLB. It's been bad, overall, but in terms of just doling out cash, he's done it.

Education is a good example, for me, of why soaking the rich doesn't actually solve the problem. The Feds have been throwing money at urban schools that struggle for a while now, and they still are a disaster. Washington DC spends more per student than almost anywhere (last I checked), and it's a trainwreck. It's a perfect example of good intentions being crushed by unintended consequences. It doesn't work because it's a bloated, stagnant system.

Just like it's not as simple as "Welfare people just need to get a job" or "Democrats want to cut and run", there's more to the story than "Republicans are all rich and don't care about the poor."

KosmicJelli

SpreadtheJAM wrote:

buying stock isn't part of your ethics? What do you live off the land or something? i hope you grow your own cotton and weave your own clothes, raise your own free range chicken and live in a log cabin, if you are that disgusted with corporate doings.

lmao.. pretty damn close

redsdisease

SpreadtheJAM wrote:

Good, go put your foot through the t.v. then you'll probably expect a check from the government to fix that problem too...

Look we are not entitled to cheap gas. European countries have been paying through the nose for gasoline alot longer than we have to the tune of $5+/gallon. What do you want Bush to do about it? He wants to drill in Alaska, but too much opposition. He wants to build new refineries too but thats been shot down. I had no problem with the response. He actually gave an intelligible answer unlike your post.

I would be really happy with $5+/gallon if we could mass transit that was even close to as nice as that in European countries.

down_ski

And just think...What happens if we pull out of Iraq? Iran moves in and controls all of Iraq's oil. Charging $200+/Barrel.

It could happen...