CNN's Atheism "debate"
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Recently CNN ran a story about a family that was discriminated against because they were atheist. After that, they had a discussion about why atheists were so hated. Of the three people discussing it, 2 were Christian, and one was Jewish. Note the lack of an atheist in this discussion on atheism.
Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPHnXrU5JzU
I want to know what you people think about this.
Edit: Here's the blond woman's response to the angry emails she got: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/02/when_atheists_a.html
Here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPHnXrU5JzU
I want to know what you people think about this.
Edit: Here's the blond woman's response to the angry emails she got: http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/02/when_atheists_a.html
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Dithpicable!
Does it say "Why do atheists inspire hate?" in the background?
"What happened to Love thy Neighbor"?
Those fuckers!
This is the most hateful pile of shit I've ever seen.
That's what I think of it.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
Which would be worse - atheist or muslim? Politically speaking I mean.
I'm pretty sure an atheist would stand a much better chance than a muslim in Australian politics these days. In fact I don't think anyone would really give a shit if a politician was atheist.
-C Addison
There was a poll conducted in the States recently asking people if they would TRUST and SUPPORT a muslim/Jewish/Gay or athiest president.
The athiest option was the only one for which less than 50% said they would trust in. Middle America is known to be pretty homophobic but even that 'catagory' scored higher on the trust and support scale than atheist.
Wow. Scary.
According to some figures from the 1996 census that I just found, 16.5% of Australians identified themsleves as having no religion, and I bet that of the 70.3% that identified as Christians at least half of them never set foot in church and wouldn't care if an atheist was to lead them.
Somehow I suspect that most australians wouldn't feel comfortable with a muslim representative.
-C Addison
well obviously it's a concern for kevin rudd. that fucker's jumped on the christian bandwagon and denied he's doing so.
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Yeah, that really surprised me. Maybe he's genuine. I don't think it's really a smart political move to make yourself an obvious christian in Australia. Unless I'm completely out of touch with my own country I think most Australians would rather politicians leave their religion out of it. I know I would. . .
What do you reckon?
-C Addison
but then we've got tony abbott, a known christian as the health minister espousing birth control. hello?? when was he last pregnant?
you also have to remember that when the irish catholics were shipped to the colonies they were denied the right to worship as catholics. and if they did, they were punished for doing so.
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Well, as an atheist, I'm glad that I don't believe in hell. . . .
I'm curious though. If you were to try to speak for the whole country, do you think Australia gives a rat's arse if a politician is atheist or not? I don't think so. .
-C Addison
My choice is what I choose to do
If it's causing no harm it shouldn't bother you
Your choice is who you choose to be
If you're causin no harm you're alright with me
i don't really know. i think the australian people act as if they don't give a rat's arse. but i can attest to the shocked looks on people's faces when i tell them i am atheist.
i'm also still reeling from the fact that the man who raised me, who i had always known as an atheist, told me that if he were to 'pick' a religion it would be judaism. my first thought was 'what the fuck!?' and i have yet to recover that that little revelation.
and if australians don't give a rat's arse, then why bother sharing your views in the first place? i think maybe 'we' like to think we are secular but when it comes down to it, the majority are praying to get into heaven. and they want their politicians kneeling in the pew right beside them.
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In what world does she live in exactly? I'm not to sure about this, but when your an atheist you don't believe in God? In any God? Whatever the religion?
Anyways, nice lesson of tolerance.
Could you imagine having to marry your own race or religion because you are that worried about what your religious head, parents, family and friends would think. Shallow life indeed.
She writes a very good propaganda piece and unfortunatly many thick americans are to dumb to think for themselves or question it's stupity and will believe it.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
The only person who makes any sense what soever is Steve Smith...
"Freedom of Religion does not mean Freedom from Religion" wtf does that mean...
The fact that religion is probably the highest debated topics in politics nowadays shows a true failure of the bill of rights.
I do however agree with the person that said he/she doesn't believe atheists are most discriminated against. You can't pick an atheist out of a crowd.
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You can often tell if a guy is gay or not. You can tell if someone is a muslim if he is wearing a turban, or if she is wearing a head scarf, for example. You can pick brown and black people out of a crowd. You can pick people with another language than English out of a crowd (if they say something).
I never said they aren't discriminated against. I just don't think they are most discriminated against. Unless they happen to be black, brown or hispanic, dress or look different.
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Your logic is completely off...First off not all Muslims wear headdress, second not all Irish have an accent, people of african decent can be white as well as black, id like to see you pick a gay person out of a crowd...so like i said your logic is completely lacking of any genuine thought or consideration.
Considering you dont have to see a person to discriminate also that statement is absolutly off base.
It depends a lot on where you live, too. Being openly atheist, I'm certainly in a very small minority, but in an urban area in the north it's not really a big deal. In some parts of the country the discrimination is intense.
I never understood why someone would hate another person because of their religious beliefs, skin color, etc. It just so stupid. I wait until people's action make me hate them.
But its vice versa. If your a die hard church go-er living in liberal massachusetts you will probaly receive some form of descrimination, compared to the south.
I am an atheist. That means I don't believe in Thor, Zeus, or your chosen god.
As for the CNN clip, it was like they were trying to lower the collective IQ of the US. Hilarious that the one woman was so het up about the possibility of removing "in God we trust" from money. If I believed in God and wanted him respected, the last thing I'd want is his name on some grubby bill that's getting crammed down the g-string of an exotic dancer, rolled up to snort a line or offered to bribe someone.
I don't care about "god" in the pledge. I always replace it with "dog." I do trust and believe in dog, after all.
My take on this?
What a bunch of idiotic simpletons.
There is no substance here whatsoever.
The American media strikes again.
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My point as well...too many people and groups these days putting their nose in other people business even if the other people are not causing shit