obama and PJ

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  • Last Exodus
    Last Exodus Posts: 782
    mca47 wrote:
    Didn't Bush have a history of coke snortin'?
    He won pretty easily among those bible types. Obama, another Christian...then again Obama has that crazy name and he's black...shit.
    dont forget the muslim dad. that shit will go over well with the necks....like i said, get on a different bus
  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    McCain is definetly my choice of the republican possibilities, but I don't trust him..
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

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  • yield2me
    yield2me Posts: 1,291
    Cheguevara6 wrote:
    obama shouldnt be the dem candidate in 08. Out nation deserves better. Out of a nation of 300 million plus people, are the best people for the job really Biden, Gore, Clinton, Obama?

    I mean is that the best we can do? Is that the opposition party?


    apparently so
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    ^^ che - ALL politicians are liars and scum. You have to play the game to get the best hand you can get. If that means voting for scum #2 over the incumbant scum so be it.

    So then we are the United Scum of America?
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  • Last Exodus
    Last Exodus Posts: 782
    gue_barium wrote:
    So then we are the United Scum of America?
    speak for yourself man...
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    I say ONLY vote for the candidate who will end the war and bring the troops home.

    Bringing the troops home isn't going to end the war. It's a lot more complicated than that, I'm afraid.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
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  • Ridin on a Motorbike
    Ridin on a Motorbike Posts: 16
    By wanting to know how Pearl Jam feels about a certain candidate rather than thinking for yourself goes against the things that PJ writes and sings about? If someone can't make a decision for themselves rather than "Who are the cool people going to pick" then that is just lazy and uneducated!

    For instance, I never support someone because they are a donkey or an elephant. I want someone that will do the right thing for The People, not a Party Pleaser!
  • Deni
    Deni Posts: 233
    _FiveAgainstOne_ wrote:
    Exactly. I hate when people say "I didn't vote because I didn't like either of the candidates, but I still hate bush so much more."

    THEN FUCKING VOTE FOR KERRY. If we all experienced Bush and know just how horrible he was, why the hell would people not support the other guy who's not him?

    Also, for 2008, while I don't have any favorites, I'll have to look into the candidates more and learn more about them.

    Condolezza Rice for 2008!


    Not really.

    Sometimes people don't want to vote for the lesser of two evils. If you are that fed up with it then don't vote. I completely support that. Not voting is a freedom we have here too. I personally think it is important to vote, and I will always, but if your political stance is apathy or sheer disgust at the whole political process then NOT voting can be looked at as a political stance too.

    I guess what I'm getting at here is that... ok in Australia (according to my friend who lives there) voting is enforced. Everybody has to vote! It's the law. If you don't vote you get fined. Some people don't vote on principle. I think it's better in America that people aren't forced to vote. Cause not voting is in and of itself a political stance and a freedom that I'm glad I have. If it ever came to voting for the lesser of two evils and I really felt that way then I might decide that not voting was the message I wanted to send. Sure, one vote may not amount to much, but it is my voice and I should have the right to use it the way I see fit. Know what I mean?
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    but if your political stance is apathy or sheer disgust at the whole political process then NOT voting can be looked at as a political stance too.

    How does the song/book title go? You can't be neutral on a moving train. If you don't vote, out of disgust, your disgust still doesn't register and the status quo still wins. The process is going to go on with or without you, and you are going to be taken -- via that moving train -- to places you don't want to go. All because of apathy and inertia.

    If you don't like either of the major party, vote for a third party candidate.

    (Note: This post isn't directed at "you" specifically. Just people in general).
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    for the least they could possibly do
  • Deni
    Deni Posts: 233
    slightofjeff wrote:
    How does the song/book title go? You can't be neutral on a moving train. If you don't vote, out of disgust, your disgust still doesn't register and the status quo still wins. The process is going to go on with or without you, and you are going to be taken -- via that moving train -- to places you don't want to go. All because of apathy and inertia.

    If you don't like either of the major party, vote for a third party candidate.

    (Note: This post isn't directed at "you" specifically. Just people in general).

    I guess I don't look at it that way. I think when you don't vote (especially when it is about not voting for somebody that you don't believe in or even like) you aren't being neutral. You are making a very political statement. The status quo may being going on without me, but would if I voted for somebody I didn't like or a third party or something else anyway. In my mind voting for somebody who you think is the lesser of two evils is tantamount to throwing your vote in the garbage... sometimes especially in the case of a third party person who you KNOW isn't going to win anyway. That's not a statement about third party people. I would SO vote third party if I liked the candidate and wanted him to win regardless of whether or not he (or she) had any chance of actually winning. I wouldn't consider that wasting my vote either. I'm just saying... lol

    That being said... Voting is Good! Please, everybody! VOTE! It's important. :)

    To you last comment there... yeah I know... ;)
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    slightofjeff wrote:
    How does the song/book title go? You can't be neutral on a moving train. If you don't vote, out of disgust, your disgust still doesn't register and the status quo still wins. The process is going to go on with or without you, and you are going to be taken -- via that moving train -- to places you don't want to go. All because of apathy and inertia.

    If you don't like either of the major party, vote for a third party candidate.

    (Note: This post isn't directed at "you" specifically. Just people in general).


    exactly. if you don't participate in the political process directly you're participating in another way, whether you realize it or not. you can't be neutral...on a moving train....
  • Deni
    Deni Posts: 233
    Commy wrote:
    exactly. if you don't participate in the political process directly you're participating in another way, whether you realize it or not. you can't be neutral...on a moving train....

    I think you just agreed with me! ha ha! :D
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  • bookmuse
    bookmuse Posts: 277
    B nice wrote:
    word to yo mutha


    ed vedder is a high school dropout...so his endorsement is like the plague


    That means nothing. One of the brightest and knowledgeable people I know only has a high school education however he has always been an avid reader. He knows more than many college educated folks. Besides, I read Ed was short what a class or so when he dropped then got his diploma or GED after. I don't agree with Ed's ultra liberal politics but I do not think he is an unitelligent person. My assessmant of him is that he is very intelligent, drop out or not.
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  • bookmuse
    bookmuse Posts: 277
    slightofjeff wrote:

    If you don't like either of the major party, vote for a third party candidate.

    (Note: This post isn't directed at "you" specifically. Just people in general).


    Just think what could happen if more people including the apathetic votes for a third party candidates instead of thinking their vote is being thrown away? The system would have to change for a while anyways. It's the same old, rich political bedfellows running in the republican and democratic party. It is long overdue that this government gets shaken up. In my state they don't let the 3rd party governor coandidate participate in the debates. Pretty shitty if you ask me -just a guaranty that the two party system stays.

    By not voting, you're making a choice - you're letting others select the president so if you don't vote you really have nothing to bitch about because you chose to not do anything. "You" being people in general.
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Politicians don't solve problems or provide answers...mass popular movements do that.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,873
    edited July 2023
    Cool to see PJ on there, but that Playlist is the definition of derivative, Barry.

    And wow, no current AMTers are on this original thread.

    Edit AMT, lol
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,078
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Cool to see PJ on there, but that Playlist is the definition of derivative, Barry.

    And wow, no current AMTers are on this original thread.

    Edit AMT, lol
    Yeah I would fall asleep listening to that.  Sounds like a boring summer in the Obama household
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,604
    static111 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Cool to see PJ on there, but that Playlist is the definition of derivative, Barry.

    And wow, no current AMTers are on this original thread.

    Edit AMT, lol
    Yeah I would fall asleep listening to that.  Sounds like a boring summer in the Obama household
    I doubt that’s the case Obama doesn’t come off like a boring man at all! 
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