Bottled Water

Lizard

Evian = naive (backwards)





that's all i got.

El_Kabong

Rushlimbo wrote:

Tap water is full of flouride which is not good for your body.

http://www.wholywater.com/fluoride.html

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/shamesfluoride.htm

http://www.drbriffa.com/blog/2007/06/29/adding-fluoride-to-water-supplies-bad-for-our-teeth/

http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/water-filtration-systems.htm

http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=235351&highlight=fl%5Cuoride

gue_barium

Byrnzie wrote:

I worked for a water company for a few months and I learned that bottled water is indeed inferior in quality that tap water. Tap water is treated and contains ingredients which are beneficial to you, like calcium and flouride. Bottled water is just crap and the bottles create a hazardous waste.

Yes, those bottles are a nuisance to the environment. And for awhile there, it was like all the healthy beautiful people in the world quenched their god-given athleticism to the little bottled water miracle. Natural, clean, filtered, pure. Right.

g under p

Pepsi fess's up the real deal on their bottled water manufacturing @ Aquafina + tap water.

Peace
Earle

ClimberInOz

mca47 wrote:

Well I don't know if you were being sarcastic, because I was.

Fluoride has no health benefit to anyone. It was added to water as a means to control pathogens and fed to the public saying "oh, it's good for you...it makes your teeth stronger...etc."
Such horse shit!

Care to back that up with a little research? Many everday elements and compounds we encounter can be poisoness in excess- even oxygen. Fluoride is a poison- but only in levels far above what a person drinking water subject to fluoridation would accumulate in a lifetime.

The vast majority of literature reviews on fluoridation of public water have concluded that in concentrations between 0.7ppm and 1.3ppm, there are no adverse health effects, but there are substantial reductions in tooth decay where fluoroidation of public water occurs. One example of many (In Australia)- In 2000 the National Health Service Centre for Reviews and Dissemination reviewed 214 of the highest quality studies on the subject.

Dental flourosis can occur in young children, but occurs not because of fluoridation of public water, but because of excessive consumption of fluoride toothpaste, flouride tablets and flouride drops (all containing far higher levels of flouride then tap water).

Also of far greater concern then fluoridation of public water are those natural water sources with extremely high levels of fluoride- that can cause health problems, but once again the amount of flouride is much higher then the amount in fluoridised tap water (as high as 95 ppm).

A few years back I took an interest in this subject and decided to make up my own mind. One side of the argument presented a solid scientific basis for their position. The other side read like a bad conspiracy theory...

parel jam

he still stands wrote:

The US has the best and safest supply of drinking water ANYWHERE.

This is not true...the best tap water comes from Europe and especially in the Netherlands...we don't add Chlorine to the water. Chlorine (a chemical purification process) has to some level a damage effect to health. I agree on your part that you mention 'the safest' supply, because of all the Chlorine...

Nevertheless, I also agree that people should drink more tap water than bottled water. It's total bullshit that people pay like 1 buck/euro for half a litre of bottled water.

In the Netherlands you pay for tapwater: 1000 litres ~ 1 euro. The bottled water is pure marketing. Nothing less...mostly it's the same water.

For instance, In Utrecht there's a bottled company called Barleduc and it gets its water from the 2nd/3rd aquifer in the soil. Across the street the social tap water company gets its water from the same aquifer...the only difference is the price (and the bottle).

For non-hydrologists:

An aquifer is an underground layer of water-bearing permeable rock or unconsolidated materials (gravel, sand, silt, or clay) from which groundwater can be usefully extracted using a water well.

parel jam

Byrnzie wrote:

I worked for a water company for a few months and I learned that bottled water is indeed inferior in quality that tap water. Tap water is treated and contains ingredients which are beneficial to you, like calcium and flouride. Bottled water is just crap and the bottles create a hazardous waste.

I am working for a water company now and I have to say that most bottled water is not inferior to tap water. In the Netherlands both waters are good, but the mind of the majority of the people think that bottled water is better. My opinion is that they're just nuts to pay so much more for bottled water than for tap water (price times 500-750).

NOCODE#1

he still stands wrote:

worth it how? it provides enough utility for you to consume unneccearily? Isn't it obvious by now that humans need to change their habits in order to stop fucking up the world?

much like my agenda on this board, i am trying to tear both from the inside out. all in the name of attention

NOCODE#1

g under p wrote:

Pepsi fess's up the real deal on their bottled water manufacturing @ Aquafina + tap water.

Peace
Earle

ya had to be living under a rock to NOT know this.

South of Seattle

1 bottle of water = 20 oz. on average
1 bottle of water = $1.25 on average

128 oz. in a gallon. 1 gallon of bottled water would cost $6.40

Premium 92 octane gas = $3.11 right now. Average car takes 15 gallons of gas.

Gas = $46.55 a tank

If you filled your gas tank with bottled water it would cost $96 to fill.

So who's really ripping us off Aquafina or Texaco?

parel jam

South of Seattle wrote:

1 bottle of water = 20 oz. on average
1 bottle of water = $1.25 on average

128 oz. in a gallon. 1 gallon of bottled water would cost $6.40

Premium 92 octane gas = $3.11 right now. Average car takes 15 gallons of gas.

Gas = $46.55 a tank

If you filled your gas tank with bottled water it would cost $96 to fill.

So who's really ripping us off Aquafina or Texaco?

And they all are buying it.

South of Seattle

parel jam wrote:

And they all are buying it.

And no one complains about paying for bottled water, but if gas goes to $3.40 people don't drive because it's too expensive :rolleyes:

Urban Hiker

I occasionally buy bottled water and refill the bottle over and over with tap water.

I am concerned that buying bottled water as a main source of drinking water could lead to widespread privitization of the resource. I don't like where that could lead.

From I recall of The Corporation neither did the people of Bolivia. http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/water/bolivia.html

parel jam

Urban Hiker wrote:

I occasionally buy bottled water and refill the bottle over and over with tap water.

I am concerned that buying bottled water as a main source of drinking water could lead to widespread privitization of the resource. I don't like where that could lead.

From I recall of The Corporation neither did the people of Bolivia. http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/water/bolivia.html

Yeah, Cochabamba in Bolivia is a good example not to privitize drinking water. Aguas del Tunari doubled the price...:(

Other examples are Johannesburg in South Africa and Manilla in the Philippines.

mca47

My tastebuds and my extensive science background makes me like my purified water...even if that purified water comes from a municipal source. Purification is just that and it shouldn't really "matter" where it comes from as long as they are truly are doing as they say.

polaris

Urban Hiker wrote:

I occasionally buy bottled water and refill the bottle over and over with tap water.

I am concerned that buying bottled water as a main source of drinking water could lead to widespread privitization of the resource. I don't like where that could lead.

From I recall of The Corporation neither did the people of Bolivia. http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/water/bolivia.html

whatever you do - i wouldn't reuse the bottles for bottled water ... they use really cheap plastics that break down especially in the sun ... all those chemicals get leached into your water while you are drinking ...

parel jam

To my surprise no one mentions Chloride in the tap water in the U.S.

Pacomc79

parel jam wrote:

To my surprise no one mentions Chloride in the tap water in the U.S.

not really a big deal in most water systems. It's trace amounts and hey, it's better than giardia or cryptosporidia. I'd prefer ozonation or reverse ozmosis sure but I have a 20 dollar tank in my refridgerator with a .01 micron dual charcoal filter that works great. It just depends on the skill of the technician and the money they have available in the particular area as to how good the local tap water tastes. A 5 dollar nalgene bottle to carry around and you're golden.

parel jam

Pacomc79 wrote:

hey, it's better than giardia or cryptosporidia. I'd prefer ozonation or reverse ozmosis

These are techniques we use at our company, together with UV. We in the Netherlands are not a big fan of Chloride...small amounts are used by some companies in the Netherlands in surface water purification...

soulsinging

CHANGEinWAVES wrote:

I feel like this thread was meant for me....I feel so bad reading it because I whole heartedly agree. We have a filter in our fridge but recently it has been producing gross flaky bits in it...so i've been drinking tap water but it's so gross. My husband is going to take a look at the fridge on wednesday and try and fix it because all we drink is water, but today I broke down and bought a six pack of Fiji bottled water....my guilt at the time didn't out weigh my thirst. But now I feel really bad. (I will reuse the bottles for a bit until they too get gross..then off to the recycling bin for them)

I do have to say in our defense that my husband goes above and beyond with recycling. He's a Pharmacist and all those pills come in tiny plastic bottles...they throw away hundreds of them a day... my hubby brings them all home and recycles them. He looks like a druggy crack head with 2 large trash bags full of pill bottles in his car every day....but he's helping the earth.

fiji water is legit. it's the big brand ones that are literally no different from regular tap water.