Bottled Water

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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    parel jam wrote:
    These are techniques we use at our company, together with UV. We in the Netherlands are not a big fan of Chloride...small amounts are used by some companies in the Netherlands in surface water purification...

    indeed. That's by far the best way. Taste's great.
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  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    I buy bottled water all the time. When I buy it from costco a 500ml bottle ends up costing 15 cents. I'm more than willing to pay this 15 cents for the conveniene. We always have some cold bottle, some frozen bottles and some in the car. The convenience make sit easier to get your 2 litres of water a day, making the dollar or so I spend a day on bottled water a great investment.

    My son and his friends drink more water because he have the bottles. He knows all he has to do is open the bottle, take a sip, add a scoop of ice tea or lemonade mix and shake. Voila, drinks all around.
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  • parel jamparel jam Posts: 7,223
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    indeed. That's by far the best way. Taste's great.
    ...and you don't have the Cl taste.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    parel jam wrote:
    ...and you don't have the Cl taste.


    yeah and the chloride can make your stomach hurt depending on the levels involved. I had some backpacking out of water tanks in New Mexico that was almost as bad as pool water.
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  • parel jamparel jam Posts: 7,223
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    yeah and the chloride can make your stomach hurt depending on the levels involved. I had some backpacking out of water tanks in New Mexico that was almost as bad as pool water.
    Well, when I lived in the US back in 2004 and 2005 I tasted it immediately. Not as Cl as swimming water in a pool, but close :)
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    surferdude wrote:
    I buy bottled water all the time. When I buy it from costco a 500ml bottle ends up costing 15 cents. I'm more than willing to pay this 15 cents for the conveniene. We always have some cold bottle, some frozen bottles and some in the car. The convenience make sit easier to get your 2 litres of water a day, making the dollar or so I spend a day on bottled water a great investment.

    My son and his friends drink more water because he have the bottles. He knows all he has to do is open the bottle, take a sip, add a scoop of ice tea or lemonade mix and shake. Voila, drinks all around.

    this is where allowing people to undergo personal changes fails and gov't regulation needs to be in place ... if an apparent "environmentally conscious" person such as yourself is not willing to use re-usable bottles - what do you expect the rest of the population to do ...

    bottled water is horrible for the environment
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    polaris wrote:
    this is where allowing people to undergo personal changes fails and gov't regulation needs to be in place ... if an apparent "environmentally conscious" person such as yourself is not willing to use re-usable bottles - what do you expect the rest of the population to do ...

    bottled water is horrible for the environment
    I recycle the bottles. I see it as a harder on the environment than needs to be but convenience makes for better personal health. Health care is hard on the environment. So I'm hoping it's close to a push overall.

    But I do know it's not the best thing to do environmentally speaking. It would not bother me if a tax was placed on the use of plastic bottles to help make it cost prohibitive to drink bottled water. I'd like to see this as part of a bigger excess packaging tax.

    I'm the first to agree that environmentally speaking that my shit stinks.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    surferdude wrote:
    I recycle the bottles. I see it as a harder on the environment than needs to be but convenience makes for better personal health. Health care is hard on the environment. So I'm hoping it's close to a push overall.

    But I do know it's not the best thing to do environmentally speaking. It would not bother me if a tax was placed on the use of plastic bottles to help make it cost prohibitive to drink bottled water. I'd like to see this as part of a bigger excess packaging tax.

    I'm the first to agree that environmentally speaking that my shit stinks.

    You could always install one of those filter thingies and refill your bottles.
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  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    Collin wrote:
    You could always install one of those filter thingies and refill your bottles.
    It's just the convenience of having the water already bottled. I always have a few in my car, some in the fridge and some in the freezer. At 15 cents a pop the convenience is too good to pass up considering the health benefits of drinking enough water. I do use a camelback for biking though.

    I don't want government to take away choice though, just to tax poor choices.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    surferdude wrote:
    It's just the convenience of having the water already bottled. I always have a few in my car, some in the fridge and some in the freezer. At 15 cents a pop the convenience is too good to pass up considering the health benefits of drinking enough water. I do use a camelback for biking though.

    I don't want government to take away choice though, just to tax poor choices.

    How much time does it take to fill eight? ten? bottles of water? 3 minutes?

    Anyway, I'm not saying you should do this or are wrong for not doing this. I don't do it. But this thread made me think about it and I might do it if I have my own place, seems more convenient that buying the bottles and in the long run perhaps even cheaper?
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    Collin wrote:
    How much time does it take to fill eight? ten? bottles of water? 3 minutes?

    Anyway, I'm not saying you should do this or are wrong for not doing this. I don't do it. But this thread made me think about it and I might do it if I have my own place, seems more convenient that buying the bottles and in the long run perhaps even cheaper?
    You have just made me think about instead of paying $5 for 35 new water bottles I could just pay my son $5 to rinse and refill 35 bottles.

    Great idea. Sometimes I get blind to the obvious solution. kudos to you and polaris for getting me on a better track. I'm not giving up filtering my tap water though.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    surferdude wrote:
    You have just made me think about instead of paying $5 for 35 new water bottles I could just pay my son $5 to rinse and refill 35 bottles.

    Great idea. Sometimes I get blind to the obvious solution. kudos to you and polaris for getting me on a better track. I'm not giving up filtering my tap water though.

    you don't want to be re-using the bottles that they come in ... they are the worst kind of plastic ... even by freeziing them - you are accelerating its breakdown into its chemical components - much of which ends up in the water you drink ... everyone can tell that as flimsy as they are originally - after a few uses they get worse ...
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    stop drinking it!!! You have FREE water coming out of your tap (or at least cheap water). It has to be tested quarterly or monthly. The US has the best and safest supply of drinking water ANYWHERE. If you drink Aquafina or Dasani (Pepsi and Coke products) you are drinking FUCKING TAP WATER ANYWAY!!!!!! Do you realize how much oil it takes to 1) make the plastic bottle (only 25% are eventually recycled) and 2) transport the water to the store??? It is WASTE!!!

    I guess its okay if you're traveling or at a concert or something, but if you're in your own home.... WTF??? I just don't get it. If you're for a healthy planet, then don't be a hypocrite.

    Sorry for the rant.


    Ever wonder about those people who spend $2.00 apiece on those little bottles of Evian water? Try spelling Evian backwards: NAIVE
  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    Pepsi Forced to Admit It's Bottling Tap Water
    By Amy Goodman, Democracy Now!
    Posted on August 2, 2007, Printed on August 3, 2007

    AMY GOODMAN: The soft drink giant Pepsi has been forced to make an embarrassing admission: Its bestselling Aquafina bottled water is nothing more than tap water. Last week, Pepsi agreed to change the labels of Aquafina to indicate the water comes from a public water source. Pepsi agreed to change its label under pressure from the advocacy group Corporate Accountability International, which has been leading an increasingly successful campaign against bottled water.

    In San Francisco, Mayor Gavin Newsom recently banned city departments from using city money to buy any kind of bottled water. In New York, local residents are being urged to drink tap water. The U.S. Conference of Mayors has passed a resolution that highlighted the importance of municipal water and called for more scrutiny of the impact of bottled water on city waste.

    The environmental impact of the country's obsession with bottled water has been staggering. Each day an estimated 60 million plastic water bottles are thrown away. Most are not recycled. The Pacific Institute has estimated 20 million barrels of oil are used each year to make the plastic for water bottles.

    Economically, it makes sense to stop buying bottled water as well. The Arizona Daily Star recently examined the cost difference between bottled water and water from the city's municipal supply. A half-liter of Pepsi's Aquafina at a Tucson convenience store costs $1.39. The bottle contains purified water from the Tucson water supply. From the tap, you can pour over 6.4 gallons for a penny. That makes the bottled stuff about 7,000 times more expensive, even though Aquafina is using the same water source...

    see full article at : http://www.alternet.org/story/58604/
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  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=yNGWn-aWn5g

    "Aquafina is french for 'The end of water as we know it.'"
    "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

    "Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore

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  • CornishManCornishMan Cornwall, UK Posts: 449
    Lizard wrote:
    Evian = naive (backwards)

    I was going to say that! Coincidence on their part or not?
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