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Does anyone think this recent terrorist plot allegation sounds suspicious?

aoifeaoife Posts: 126
edited August 2006 in A Moving Train
im not sure they seem to be skimping on detail and instead of telling us the reason it keeps reitterating the point about the terror alert being up to critical. it just looks like they are "drilling for fear", or trying to justify british involvement in Iraq.
"If you remove the English army tomorrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin castle, unless you set about the organisation of the socialist republic then all of your efforts would have been in vain. England will still rule you through her capitalists ,landlords and commercial institutions"
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  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    i don´t know .it´s hard to answer .
  • aoifeaoife Posts: 126
    ladygooddiva wrote:
    i don´t know .it´s hard to answer .
    ya i know it could all be true but it just sounded dodgy
    "If you remove the English army tomorrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin castle, unless you set about the organisation of the socialist republic then all of your efforts would have been in vain. England will still rule you through her capitalists ,landlords and commercial institutions"
  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    There probably was something, and they are all milking it like crazy to get the most out of it. How advanced and dangerous the plans were, I dunno. But it sounded like the police knew about these and were keeping an eye on them.

    So it's real, and it's out of proportion. I think both is correct.

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  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    it does to me for some reason and its always around 9-11 that we find out these terror plots.makes u wonder if the us is just trying to gain more support for the this "war on terror"
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    it does to me for some reason and its always around 9-11 that we find out these terror plots.makes u wonder if the us is just trying to gain more support for the this "war on terror"

    Oh, please. Does everything have to be a conspiracy by the US govt.? Isn't this a UK operation? In addition, they just caught these guys yesterday. I'm going to go out on a limb and say we're still pretty early in the story to be pointing out that we don't have all of the facts.
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  • The IllinoisemakersThe Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    it does to me for some reason and its always around 9-11 that we find out these terror plots.makes u wonder if the us is just trying to gain more support for the this "war on terror"


    Could you back that up by telling us what other terror plots have been stopped around 9/11. I honestly don't know of any, but if you do I would like to know which ones. Thanks.
  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    aoife wrote:
    ya i know it could all be true but it just sounded dodgy

    yea but i think why the heck should a goverment cook up such story.i mean like this now...and why should pakistan be involved if this is a lie ...that´s why i think it´´s true
  • RockinInCanadaRockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Saw something funny today on the news...on CBC this morning they had a lead investigator who did the work from Pakistan and he himslef is from Pakistan...he was getting praises from the journalist...then asked about relations to Al Queda he said there is no connection what so ever...just a group of nuts trying to blow up planes...what made me laugh is when they asked this he went on a tanget discussing Al Queda as being American made (you CIA trained to fight the Russians which we know as fact)...and the journalist just cut him and left him hanging....that really bugs me....hell the guy stopped this alleged attack yet they pull the plug on him when he begins discussion of Al Queda....made me laugh because I always tried to defend Canadian media jsut realized they are useless as well and trying iterate one side of the story....

    Funny going from praises to off the air as soon as he goes on about a truth.....disappointed in my country's media.....and it made laugh....
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Posts: 12,223
    Well, let's see what happens to these suspects, for a start.
  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    let´s hope that nothing bad happens to them
    bec. if something bad happen than there will be more terrorist ...
    and for now nothing is improved so they are inocent on the first place
  • Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
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  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    it won´t happen ...
  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Posts: 12,223
    ladygooddiva wrote:
    let´s hope that nothing bad happens to them
    bec. if something bad happen than there will be more terrorist ...
    and for now nothing is improved so they are inocent on the first place

    What I mean is, let's see what happens, if they're charged and their cases go before the Crown Prosecution Service for trial. If things don't get that far, and these suspects are released, then there will be plenty of opportunity for good questions as to the extent of recent events, as a real terror threat. I'm taking the authorities at their word about a real threat, unless evidence to the contrary actually comes to light.
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    Bathgate66 wrote:
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    i could see this happening in the next few years or even months.is that the post or the daily news
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  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    What I mean is, let's see what happens, if they're charged and their cases go before the Crown Prosecution Service for trial. If things don't get that far, and these suspects are released, then there will be plenty of opportunity for good questions as to the extent of recent events, as a real terror threat. I'm taking the authorities at their word about a real threat, unless evidence to the contrary actually comes to light.


    ok i got it what you meant !
  • LazLaz Posts: 118
    Let's not forget that the US government (especially that Dubya) was behind the following:

    Mel Gibson's tirade, Hitler's rise to power, the Bolshevik Revolution, Mao's Cultural Revolution, the Crusades, Genghis Khan's campaigns, the fall of the Roman Empire, the Peloponnesian and Punic Wars, the French Revolution, Cain and Abel, Jesus' Crucifixion, your parents' divorce, your lack of self-esteem, your alcoholism and depression, and last but not least, the New Kids on the Block...

    People get a grip already, when is everyone going to realize that these Muslim extremists want nothing more than to die while taking you (an infidel) with them (for the greater glory of Allah of course...)
  • Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    i could see this happening in the next few years or even months.is that the post or the daily news


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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    Saw something funny today on the news...on CBC this morning they had a lead investigator who did the work from Pakistan and he himslef is from Pakistan...he was getting praises from the journalist...then asked about relations to Al Queda he said there is no connection what so ever...just a group of nuts trying to blow up planes...what made me laugh is when they asked this he went on a tanget discussing Al Queda as being American made (you CIA trained to fight the Russians which we know as fact)...and the journalist just cut him and left him hanging....that really bugs me........

    Yeah, it's profoundly sad when a truth like that is supressed. But I think most people know that as a fact, by now. You'd have to be living in a cave (pardon the pun), to not know the USA Military/Government created, trained, supported and supplied AQ.
  • aoifeaoife Posts: 126
    Laz wrote:
    Let's not forget that the US government (especially that Dubya) was behind the following:

    Mel Gibson's tirade, Hitler's rise to power, the Bolshevik Revolution, Mao's Cultural Revolution, the Crusades, Genghis Khan's campaigns, the fall of the Roman Empire, the Peloponnesian and Punic Wars, the French Revolution, Cain and Abel, Jesus' Crucifixion, your parents' divorce, your lack of self-esteem, your alcoholism and depression, and last but not least, the New Kids on the Block...

    People get a grip already, when is everyone going to realize that these Muslim extremists want nothing more than to die while taking you (an infidel) with them (for the greater glory of Allah of course...)
    ya i agree and you know i think its because they hate freedom..................................................................im being sarcastic by the way, thats a very racist thing to say
    "If you remove the English army tomorrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin castle, unless you set about the organisation of the socialist republic then all of your efforts would have been in vain. England will still rule you through her capitalists ,landlords and commercial institutions"
  • LazLaz Posts: 118
    aoife wrote:
    ya i agree and you know i think its because they hate freedom..................................................................im being sarcastic by the way, thats a very racist thing to say

    quite the opposite, they love freedom, the freedom they'll have in paradise due to their martyrdom against the infidels...
  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    You'd have to be living in a cave (pardon the pun), to not know the USA Military/Government created, trained, supported and supplied AQ.
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    i think everybody knows that or???it was the CIA
  • LazLaz Posts: 118
    ladygooddiva wrote:
    You'd have to be living in a cave (pardon the pun), to not know the USA Military/Government created, trained, supported and supplied AQ.

    notice that the taliban didn't make my list... yes we all know about the Stinger missiles we supplied to the mujaheddin when they were fighting the Soviet aggression, thank you for the history lesson...

    so because we at one point were supplying these maniacs we should let them get away with whatever they want? or because we supplied them in the past that means that the US will be behind all these incidents? the leap of logic is astounding...
  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    Laz wrote:
    notice that the taliban didn't make my list... yes we all know about the Stinger missiles we supplied to the mujaheddin when they were fighting the Soviet aggression, thank you for the history lesson...

    so because we at one point were supplying these maniacs we should let them get away with whatever they want? or because we supplied them in the past that means that the US will be behind all these incidents? the leap of logic is astounding...

    of course not but everything is so complicated .and so many countrys are involved (middle east)..and all this stuff ...future past has to be measure before a next step ....etc.

    bec. nobody knows what can happen if somebody do political a wrong step ...
  • aoifeaoife Posts: 126
    Laz wrote:
    notice that the taliban didn't make my list... yes we all know about the Stinger missiles we supplied to the mujaheddin when they were fighting the Soviet aggression, thank you for the history lesson...

    so because we at one point were supplying these maniacs we should let them get away with whatever they want? or because we supplied them in the past that means that the US will be behind all these incidents? the leap of logic is astounding...
    if you ask me your government are maniacs too and are even bigger terrorists. and the whole concept of a war on terror is absolutely ridiculus, bombing innocent civilians only creates more terrorism as people join the ranks of these terrorist organisations because your government bombed and killed their families.
    "If you remove the English army tomorrow and hoist the green flag over Dublin castle, unless you set about the organisation of the socialist republic then all of your efforts would have been in vain. England will still rule you through her capitalists ,landlords and commercial institutions"
  • LazLaz Posts: 118
    aoife wrote:
    if you ask me your government are maniacs too and are even bigger terrorists. and the whole concept of a war on terror is absolutely ridiculus, bombing innocent civilians only creates more terrorism as people join the ranks of these terrorist organisations because your government bombed and killed their families.

    never claimed that the US government was perfect... I agree the "war on terror" is ridiculous... it should be called the "war on Islamofascists"

    do you honestly believe that if these people (the extremists claiming to be Muslims, there is that PC enough?) are left alone they'll leave us alone? They don't want Israel they want the whole world to be under Islamic Law... if I'm a maniac for not wanting a theocracy call me a maniac...
  • NCfanNCfan Posts: 945
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    There probably was something, and they are all milking it like crazy to get the most out of it. How advanced and dangerous the plans were, I dunno. But it sounded like the police knew about these and were keeping an eye on them.

    So it's real, and it's out of proportion. I think both is correct.

    Peace
    Dan

    I would just like to say that I think the media blows everything out of proportion. They do this to gain viewership, readership.... to make $$$.

    I don't think it is George Bush drilling for fear, it's the media drilling for $$$.

    Okay, we gathered the facts from the media. I only really believe something unless it is reported by at least a few sources. I don't need to to watch cable TV for 3 hours as they continuously report the same story as if you would die if you changed the channel.

    They have breaking news tickers up, even if the story broke 24 hours ago. I seriously saw this on Anderson Cooper 360 last night.

    I guess my point is, sure the media blows shit our of proportion. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to understand and weed through to the facts. I have few doubts about the actual facts behind this story.....

    Not everything is a conspiracy.
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    ladygooddiva wrote:
    You'd have to be living in a cave (pardon the pun), to not know the USA Military/Government created, trained, supported and supplied AQ.
    __________________

    i think everybody knows that or???it was the CIA
    it was both the great regan and the cia that trained these "terroroist".its funny how all these "terrorist" were once our friends.and where is ubl i thought we were supposed to be finding him
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  • LazLaz Posts: 118
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    it was both the great regan and the cia that trained these "terroroist".its funny how all these "terrorist" were once our friends.and where is ubl i thought we were supposed to be finding him

    I wasn't aware that the military had stopped looking for ubl... again if they were once our 'friends' ,more like people with mutual enemies, then we should just let 9/11 slide and once we know about plots like the one recently uncovered, we should let them carry it out because we once upon a time gave them training?
  • ladygooddivaladygooddiva Posts: 4,169
    metsfan531941 wrote:
    it was both the great regan and the cia that trained these "terroroist".its funny how all these "terrorist" were once our friends.and where is ubl i thought we were supposed to be finding him

    it´s like the friends became enemys .that´s it the ways where once changing
    and we have the dessaster .So acctually the CIA knows some ways or not?
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    Laz wrote:
    I wasn't aware that the military had stopped looking for ubl... again if they were once our 'friends' ,more like people with mutual enemies, then we should just let 9/11 slide and once we know about plots like the one recently uncovered, we should let them carry it out because we once upon a time gave them training?
    i havent heard anything in months about ubl, not even one of those tape recordings of him.no we shouldnt let them carry these plots. what kind of sick person would root for them to carry out these plots
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    Sammi: Wanna just break up?

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