Price of Oil
lazymoon13
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wtf. $120?!?! how is this effecting you? are you driving less? what can possibly bring this price down? whats goes up must come down. damn this is getting out of hand.
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Meh...$120 is going to look really good come August.
That's the fucking scary part. We haven't even started using the summer blend, which tends to be more expensive. Unfortunate for me I started a job about 2 months ago that requires me to drive to work, I used to work in NYC so I took public transportation.
I wish my small town could produce well paying jobs, but that isn't the case.
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wow man. you need to move. is that out of the question? dont mean to pry, its none of my business but damn. 110 miles A DAY!
mccain proposed to drop the fed tax of 0.20 cents a gallon for the summer. good or bad idea?
ok jimmy. how about the price we pay from all other countries? :rolleyes: we don't get all of our oil from Iraq ya know.
Spineless, gimmicky idea. Drop it for good, remove corresponding spending from the budget (preferrably oil company subsidies).
great idea.
I'm all for it. really. in the past studies have shown that demand for gasoline is extremely price inelastic. but I hope that if it gets high enough, that will change.
you make choices as to where you live, where you work, whether you drive a car, and what kind of car you drive. therefore, unless you are a truck driver, where the primary (singular really) input is gasoline, you shouldn't really be complaining.
oil companies are being subsidized?? for what?? raping the citizenry?? :mad:
Oil companies are historically subsidized for exploration-related expenses, amongst other things. And yes, it is quite ridiculous.
yup ... if we paid the 'true' cost of energy ... we'd only be using renewables ...
It does not take a spine to villify oil companies and tell America that you'll make gas cheaper over the summer. That's a silly cop-out that does nothing to address the actual problem and is the kind of populist bullshit I expect from McCain.
Gas taxes and oil subsidies are a joke. Remove them both, permanently, and make sure you're shoring up the federal budget in anticipation of the lost revenue. That takes a spine.
Not really. You'd be using a mixture of coal, oil, nuclear, and renewables. Just at slightly different proportions than we do now.
do you live in America? if not have you been here? the vast majority of people who live here have little to NO choice but to drive to work.
why WOULDN'T you want a gas tax? someone sure as hell should be paying for the f-ed up externalities they're causing when they choose to drive.
you should run for office. have you considered it? you seem to have it all figured out. anyway, I applaud mccain for proposing cutting the tax. he's the only one to make such a suggestion. thats a start.
yes I live in america. and I have lived and worked lived in autocentric suburban areas, where in I rode a bike and walked when possible and when not, carpooled to work with 3 other people, one car of which was a prius- all choices, including living in an autocentric area (going to the best grad program in my field, which happens to be environmental economics, outweighed my desire to live in cities and my dislike of driving). I did not like having to drive so I *chose* to live somewhere I didn't have to later when that option was more prevalent among my preferences. It may be a *complex* choice, it may be a hugely complicated utility function, but it is still a rational, economic choice, bottom line.
Also, may I remind people, that it is OUR CHOICES that have made the united states as autocentric as it is today. If we did not demand cars, if we did not demand huge houses, if we did not demand big box stores and shopping malls- suburban autocentric areas as we know them would not be as proliferating as they are today. That's not to say it can't change. We can all vote with our feet. We can seek out places to alternative live and work. we can demand bike paths and sidewalks. I'm not saying it could change overnight, but people are just like "eh, it's the way it is, you have to drive." When it's really not. If everyone just changed their OUTLOOK on how things are designed and stopped accepting the status quo, it would eventually change, as an economic necessity.
It's a nice gesture but in the end it's just that. What we need is a solution not some flimsy band aid.
That is what has always bugged me. The people who seem to complain the most about gas prices are the people where their high levels of gas uses are a result of their own choices. These are the people who have to have the 4 bedroom house in the suburbs with the double garage and the huge back yard (even though to afford that house you have to have an hour commute). These are the people who drive SUV's when a small or medium sized car would suit them just fine.
you don't get it. are all americans supposed to cram into urban areas so they can ditch their cars? and guess what, carpooling still requires people to buy and use gas.
its a start. and certainly not a spineless gimmicky move. I guess he could have done nothing? :rolleyes:
Because it's uneccessary, regressive and immoral.
Umm...so let me get this straight. Driving creates "f-ed up externalities" and therefore drivers should be punished by paying a tribute to the organizations that provided them with public roads to begin with????
No but you can start by making some wiser choices. If you have to drive far to get to work don't buy a Hummer. There are also plenty of people who can commute to work via public transportation who still drive because the train or the bus is too crowded. Having worked in NYC for the majority of my career I have met dozens of people who drive to work when they can just as easily take a train or bus. Then they would bitch about the tolls, traffic and gas prices.
No he could fight to eliminate the gas tax completely.
I have no sympathy for those people. I'm talking about the millions of americans who simply have little or no choice.