"subscribing to socialism"

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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    angelica wrote:
    :D

    What can I say? I somehow associate the word "Sheen" with "utter depravity". The fact that I'm watching Two & A Half Men right now has nothing to do with it. :p
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    What can I say? I somehow associate the word "Sheen" with "utter depravity". The fact that I'm watching Two & A Half Men right now has nothing to do with it. :p
    It's just such a hysterical choice of words.... sheen: luster; brightness; radiance



    :D a lustre of utter depravity!!

    ...a radiance of utter depravity!!!

    :D
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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    angelica wrote:
    It's just such a hysterical choice of words.... sheen: luster; brightness; radiance



    :D a lustre of utter depravity!!

    ...a radiance of utter depravity!!!

    :D

    My depravity shines like the North Star! :D How else would we expect people to vote for me? ;)
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I know, I'm weak. :p
    I have a serious side, I just usually keep it repressed beneath a sheen of utter depravity. :D
    They closed our thread! :eek:

    :p

    I saw! I came here to seek refuge on this socialist island.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    :p

    I saw! I came here to seek refuge on this socialist island.

    Posting from Cuba? You're living my dream! :D
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Posting from Cuba? You're living my dream! :D

    Shhh, I'm a Castro agent sent to this board to spread the evils of socialism to unsuspecting pearl jam fans and hope we hook them.



    :D
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Shhh, I'm a Castro agent sent to this board to spread the evils of socialism to unsuspecting pearl jam fans and hope we hook them.



    :D

    We should have known he'd strike the Pearl Jam Message Pit first. :p

    Actually, my dream was to move to Cuba and set up a roller-disco franchise. You in? :D
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    We should have known he'd strike the Pearl Jam Message Pit first. :p

    Actually, my dream was to move to Cuba and set up a roller-disco franchise. You in? :D


    You shittin me? There's no way I'm passing up on the chance to become a suicidal, socialist slave dolled up in my most glamorous 70's retro gear plus fake eyelashes strutting around on roller skates set to the tune of Disco Inferno!
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    You shittin me? There's no way I'm passing up on the chance to become a suicidal, socialist slave dolled up in my most glamorous 70's retro gear plus fake eyelashes strutting around on roller skates set to the tune of Disco Inferno!

    That's the spirit! :D Nothing screams socialist paradise like a complete submission to disco culture! And oxygen bars! :D
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    That's the spirit! :D Nothing screams socialist paradise like a complete submission to disco culture! And oxygen bars! :D


    You always have your finger on the pulse of involuntary euphoria. God save us all. :D
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    You always have your finger on the pulse of involuntary euphoria. God save us all. :D

    God is irrelevant. Rhino is all. :D
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    God is irrelevant. Rhino is all. :D

    Yes sir. I'll never let my self slip again.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Yes sir. I'll never let my self slip again.

    I'll let it pass this time - but next time, you're scrubbing the rink floor. :p

    When did I become a dictator? :eek: It's true - socialism can't exist without a dictator! :(
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    socialism is "suicide"?!

    i'm sorry, but that sounds ridiculous.

    some versions of socialism may approach or be akin to slavery... but do we have use language like 'suicide'?

    but you're right, it's foolish... and throughout time has been supported but morons like Einstein, Orwell, Shaw and other dumbasses

    Suicide is an willful act that leads to self-destruction. Socialism has proven time and time again to be very self-destructive for the societies that choose it. If you want to suggest that my language is too strong, I'm ok with that. If you want to suggest that my language is "ridiculous", I suggest you take a look at history.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    radiohead33 wrote:
    hey if you think building more roads, paving over animal habitats and polluting the earth with more car fumes is sustainable, then by all means! I just think its basic logic.

    Its clear our current way of life isnt working. And its also clear, merely recycling or buying a hybrid isnt going to cut it

    Basic logic shows the correlation betweens civilization and increased populations, more stable lifestyles, the profusion of knowledge and technology, and the millions of things you are taking for granted as you type "we should go back to hunting and gathering" on a computer.

    But, hey, if you want to go back to hunting and gathering, by all means, knock yourself out. There are certainly arguments to be made for such a lifestyle. As another poster indicated, most of us will not be joining you. One can only wonder what you're waiting for. Perhaps you're saving up for a rifle....
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    angelica wrote:
    What I see is that the future doesn't exist. We never have any power in the future. We only have power in the present. Therefore we delude ourselves when we use the "future" to justify doing something unethical in the only time we have...which is NOW. By deluding ourselves in such a way, we disguise our nefarious deeds and hide from our true intentions.

    This is highly questionable logic. The future, in general, is the definition of potentiality. We are constantly realizing the future even if it is not, in fact, guaranteed. Using some ridiculous vision of the future to justify evils in the present is certainly corrupt and delusional. But doing something just because of a vision of the future is not corrupt at all.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    angelica wrote:
    I agree that we are cooperative in many functional ways. At the same time, charted human developmental stages show higher levels of human development, where humans operate wholly, and with integrity, as a unified individual system, unlike the general states of fragmentation that exist at this time. The majority at this time, operates in fragments, where one minute one is cooperative, and the next minute competitive or confrontational, based on conditioning and past brain-wiring rather than based on understanding and conscious choice. The more evolved holistic, integrity-based forms of awareness and resulting cooperation that I refer to, by being whole and integrity based, have evolved the ability to resolve dichotomy/contradiction, etc. into one harmonious system that resolves coersion and other such methods that contain fall-out and infringement. So, as our different views point to, "evolved" would be a relative term.

    Ok -- I'm cool with this. I simply reject the concept of some kind of progressive "evolution" in this context. But in simple relative terms, I'm fine with it.
    Fair enough. I understand that your ideals and principles are different from my own, or from many other board members who may see socialistic views as consistent with their own principles and ideals.

    Fair enough, indeed. Those who "see socialistic views as consistent with their own principles and ideals" should live out those ideals, as many do. I have no problem with that.
    In certain worldviews, people find they no longer have the choice but to live and operate in service to life, rather than in service of the self.

    The self is alive.
    Such individuals are not concerned with increasing wealth, but rather with increasing quality of life for others, in ways that are beyond financial.

    First, the creation of wealth and the quality of life for self and others are tightly linked, not mutually exclusive. Second, those who wish to shun wealth and "increase quality of life for others, in ways that are beyond financial" should certainly do so, if that is their guiding principle.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Suicide is an willful act that leads to self-destruction. Socialism has proven time and time again to be very self-destructive for the societies that choose it. If you want to suggest that my language is too strong, I'm ok with that. If you want to suggest that my language is "ridiculous", I suggest you take a look at history.


    And what exactly is our current way of life leading to? Self-destruction.

    edit: I should add that I'm not exactly an advocate of socialism. I do subscribe to some very socialist ideas.
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Collin wrote:
    And what exactly is our current way of life leading to? Self-destruction.

    What evidence do you have that "our" current way of life is leading to self-destruction? Who does "our" refer to?
  • dmitry
    dmitry Posts: 136
    radiohead33 wrote:
    hey if you think building more roads, paving over animal habitats and polluting the earth with more car fumes is sustainable, then by all means! I just think its basic logic.

    Its clear our current way of life isnt working. And its also clear, merely recycling or buying a hybrid isnt going to cut it

    Aren't most roads socialist endeavors? Roads that aren't even needed are built and maintained, basically subsidizing the auto industry. The way things are now, there is no reason to develop technology that doesn't utilize roads.

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