Area 51

jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
edited September 2007 in A Moving Train
what is the deal with this place?

I'm shocked only a few workers have ever talked about it.

obviously secret spy planes are tested there but what else?
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  • it's where they are hiding osama bin laden ;)
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  • Honestly...who knows.

    It's where they develop stuff that they eventually declassify for public use 10-20 years later...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,606
    Axel is still working on "Chinese Democracy" there.
    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    it's where they are hiding osama bin laden ;)

    Where Osama Bin Hiden, Nah it's where the gov't sit down plan shit and come with stuff we would never believe I think. :confused:

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  • I've seen a few amateur documentaries on it. You cant get near that place.

    invisible sensors all over the place miles away.

    Security like you wouldn't believe.

    Maybe it's where all the senators go to get away from their wives...

    or breed with aliens....lol
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    I've seen a few amateur documentaries on it. You cant get near that place.

    invisible sensors all over the place miles away.

    Security like you wouldn't believe.

    Maybe it's where all the senators go to get away from their wives...

    or breed with aliens....lol

    LOL....that's funny and could be true those Senators are some freaky dudes. :)

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • dolly rockerdolly rocker Long Beach NY Posts: 352
    you can listen to all the stories..its just a high tech military testing facility,,that tests planes like the b-2 that resembles an alien like ship..this place is needed for our national security,,theres no aliens there its just a top secret test sight, that will one day produce something that will save all of us...so put all those crazy alien stories behind you its all nonsense...
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    I've seen a few amateur documentaries on it. You cant get near that place.

    invisible sensors all over the place miles away.

    Security like you wouldn't believe.

    Maybe it's where all the senators go to get away from their wives...

    or breed with aliens....lol

    they breed with gay aliens in the men's/alien's bathroom? I guess male aliens carry the pregnancy...cool
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    you can listen to all the stories..its just a high tech military testing facility,,that tests plans like the b-2 that resembles an alien like ship..this place is needed for our national security,,theres no aliens there its just a top secret test sight, that will one day produce something that will save all of us...so put all those crazy alien stories behind you its all nonsense...

    Just laughter.....however to "save all of us" the US could start by ridding ourselves from all the new nuclear weapons we're stockpiling.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • dolly rockerdolly rocker Long Beach NY Posts: 352
    youll see my friend..Area 51 is needed for our protection..in this crazy time we might need those nukes,,sadly enough
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    jlew24asu wrote:
    what is the deal with this place?

    I'm shocked only a few workers have ever talked about it.

    obviously secret spy planes are tested there but what else?
    ...
    The location known as Area 51 is in the Nellis Air Force Test Range. The remote location that is about 600 square miles that includes the area where early atmospheric nuclear tests were conducted at Yucca Flats. This is the range where the Air Force test systems to defeat foriegn air force and air defense systems. Weapons systems such as the F-117A and B-2 Bomber were flight tested on this range. That's also where missile guidence systems such as the HARM missile was developed. There is no manufacturing going on over there... flight tests, weapons separation tests, live fire testing, air defense systems testing... things like that. It is rumoured that C-5 flights in the middle of the night were actually shuttling F-117s from the Lockheed Skunkworks manufacuring plant in Burbank, CA. to the Nellis facility.
    That was where U.S. pilots trainned to simulate Soviet pilots flew captured or stolen Soviet fighters to fly patrol sorties, looking for the stealth fighters. I heard that the pilots who were chosen to fly the F-117 tests were put on a C-130 or C-141 transports and flown around for hours so they would not know where they landed. They were told they would be flight testing A-7 Corsairs carrying clasified weapons systems. Upon arrival, They were briefed that they would be testing the 'non-existant' aircraft.
    The test range is also where the Air Force conducts it's Red Flag Operations... the Air Force's version of Top Gun. The air space over the test range is restricted and use of lethal force is authorized against any unauthorized persons on the ground or in the air.
    The Groom Lake facility is pretty much vacant these days, mostly because of the conspiracy nuts that wanted a closer look at flying saucers and shit. Most of the black projects have been moved to the Tonopah facility that is tucked deep in the test range and protected from view by surrounding mountain ranges and is basically only reached by air or restricted rail.
    ...
    As for the workers... they are sworn by an oath to attain their security clearances and risk serious jail time if they disclose details of their operations.
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  • dolly rockerdolly rocker Long Beach NY Posts: 352
    thank you for clearing that up
  • It's like another Bohemian grove except with really cool airplanes, and those intel dudes dressed in those shiny space suits dancing all the time.

    I wish I could find that documentary. These guys tried to get near it, and the security was off the hook...both air and land. A quick flyby overhead, then land dispatch. Deadly, as in you would die (or survival would be questionable) if you kept going past certain point. I believe that's what the signs said (if I remember correctly).
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • youll see my friend..Area 51 is needed for our protection..in this crazy time we might need those nukes,,sadly enough

    oh man.
    there are still people who think that ANYONE wins with nuclear weapons?

    Don't you remember Matthew Broaderick and War Games?

    Come on.
    It's a draw.
    Every time!
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  • Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    The location known as Area 51 is in the Nellis Air Force Test Range. The remote location that is about 600 square miles that includes the area where early atmospheric nuclear tests were conducted at Yucca Flats. This is the range where the Air Force test systems to defeat foriegn air force and air defense systems. Weapons systems such as the F-117A and B-2 Bomber were flight tested on this range. That's also where missile guidence systems such as the HARM missile was developed. There is no manufacturing going on over there... flight tests, weapons separation tests, live fire testing, air defense systems testing... things like that. It is rumoured that C-5 flights in the middle of the night were actually shuttling F-117s from the Lockheed Skunkworks manufacuring plant in Burbank, CA. to the Nellis facility.
    That was where U.S. pilots trainned to simulate Soviet pilots flew captured or stolen Soviet fighters to fly patrol sorties, looking for the stealth fighters. I heard that the pilots who were chosen to fly the F-117 tests were put on a C-130 or C-141 transports and flown around for hours so they would not know where they landed. They were told they would be flight testing A-7 Corsairs carrying clasified weapons systems. Upon arrival, They were briefed that they would be testing the 'non-existant' aircraft.
    The test range is also where the Air Force conducts it's Red Flag Operations... the Air Force's version of Top Gun. The air space over the test range is restricted and use of lethal force is authorized against any unauthorized persons on the ground or in the air.
    The Groom Lake facility is pretty much vacant these days, mostly because of the conspiracy nuts that wanted a closer look at flying saucers and shit. Most of the black projects have been moved to the Tonopah facility that is tucked deep in the test range and protected from view by surrounding mountain ranges and is basically only reached by air or restricted rail.
    ...
    As for the workers... they are sworn by an oath to attain their security clearances and risk serious jail time if they disclose details of their operations.


    Is that from wikipedia? you really should use quotes when you cut and paste...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • dolly rockerdolly rocker Long Beach NY Posts: 352
    i remember matthew BRODERICK,, and joshua hahahahaha
  • prism wrote:
    they breed with gay aliens in the men's/alien's bathroom? I guess male aliens carry the pregnancy...cool

    I think they have an entire airport hangar converted to bathroom stalls....with disco ball and mood music...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • i remember matthew BRODERICK,, and joshua hahahahaha

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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Is that from wikipedia? you really should use quotes when you cut and paste...
    ...
    No. That's stuff I heard.
    I didn't work on the F-117 or B-2 manufacturing programs, but I was cleared because of the systems I worked on that go with those programs. I have never been to Nellis Test range (except for the open house at Nellis A.F.B. to see the Thunderbirds). I did go up to the China Lake Naval Weapons facility to see a live firing of the Vulcan Phallynx 20mm gattling gun that goes on the C-130 Spectre Gunships. You do not want to be on the recieving end of that mother fucker. It turned a tank into tiny bits of metal in seconds.
    Since then, all of the projects have gone blue except for certain parameters such as flight data and weapons loads. Everything I posted was from 25+ years of working on and/or with Air Force systems and with Air Force personel.
    ...
    Check Wikapedia for anything I've lifted... and let me know.
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    Hail, Hail!!!
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    I think they have an entire airport hangar converted to bathroom stalls....with disco ball and mood music...


    now that makes for a nifty visual :)



    I'm guessing that the senators need an entire airport hanger....with their wide stances and all
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  • prism wrote:
    now that makes for a nifty visual :)

    meanwhile in other places....Larry Craig just involuntarily spasmed :p
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    No. That's stuff I heard.
    I didn't work on the F-117 or B-2 manufacturing programs, but I was cleared because of the systems I worked on that go with those programs. I have never been to Nellis Test range (except for the open house at Nellis A.F.B. to see the Thunderbirds). I did go up to the China Lake Naval Weapons facility to see a live firing of the Vulcan Phallynx 20mm gattling gun that goes on the C-130 Spectre Gunships. You do not want to be on the recieving end of that mother fucker. It turned a tank into tiny bits of metal in seconds.
    Since then, all of the projects have gone blue except for certain parameters such as flight data and weapons loads. Everything I posted was from 25+ years of working on and/or with Air Force systems and with Air Force personel.
    ...
    Check Wikapedia for anything I've lifted... and let me know.


    Ever work in Area 51?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Ever work in Area 51?
    ...
    Nope.
    I was DoD cleared for Secret and Limited Security Clearances. Top Secret Clearances are required for those deep black programs. Most of the stuff I worked on was not mission critical.
    I got briefed on projects and de-briefed when the project came out of the black. The stuff I work on now only requires a Confdential Clearance.
    The closest I got to the Nellis Test Range was the Air Show (which is open to the public).
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Nope.
    I was DoD cleared for Secret and Limited Security Clearances. Top Secret Clearances are required for those deep black programs. Most of the stuff I worked on was not mission critical.
    I got briefed on projects and de-briefed when the project came out of the black. The stuff I work on now only requires a Confdential Clearance.
    The closest I got to the Nellis Test Range was the Air Show (which is open to the public).


    It sounds like a definite experience no doubt. If there's one thing we can both agree on...airplane technology in fucking awesome.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • dolly rockerdolly rocker Long Beach NY Posts: 352
    I agree completely
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    Ever work in Area 51?



    I can't be positive but I don't think that Cosmo's into gay alien sex
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    It sounds like a definite experience no doubt. If there's one thing we can both agree on...airplane technology in fucking awesome.
    ...
    Yeah... if you've ever seen an F-15 or F-18 in flight, they are awesome. I would love to see them buzz the field at Mach speed.
    I would love to go for a ride in one. The closest I got was a ride in a KC-10 tanker as it flew a refuelling trainning flight. We re-fueled some C-141s from Norton A.F.B... it was kind of scary... especially when they went over the procedures for evacuating in the event of a crash.
    And the new F-22s are supposed to be incredible... even though I believe the F-23 was a superior plane. The F-23 walked to Mach speed without after burner. But, it lacked the manuverability of the F-22 due to it's lack of 2 dimensional thrust vectoring. At the time, the Air Force wanted/needed to come up with something to defeat the Soviet's Su-27.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    prism wrote:
    I can't be positive but I don't think that Cosmo's into gay alien sex
    ...
    It all depends... do the aliens have both genetailia?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • dolly rockerdolly rocker Long Beach NY Posts: 352
    yes my friend the f-22 is a beast
  • Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Yeah... if you've ever seen an F-15 or F-18 in flight, they are awesome. I would love to see them buzz the field at Mach speed.
    I would love to go for a ride in one. The closest I got was a ride in a KC-10 tanker as it flew a refuelling trainning flight. We re-fueled some C-141s from Norton A.F.B... it was kind of scary... especially when they went over the procedures for evacuating in the event of a crash.
    And the new F-22s are supposed to be incredible... even though I believe the F-23 was a superior plane. The F-23 walked to Mach speed without after burner. But, it lacked the manuverability of the F-22 due to it's lack of 2 dimensional thrust vectoring. At the time, the Air Force wanted/needed to come up with something to defeat the Soviet's Su-27.

    Ever watch American Chopper where they ride in the F-16's?

    One guy pukes...that Vinny guy laughs his ass off the whole time. Whenever I fly I always smile (really appreciate) the speed on takeoff, and the turbulence (whenever it happens).

    The acceleration and G's must be incredible at that level.

    Talk about a rush..
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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