so what did you think of the Bush speech today

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    chiefojibwa wrote:
    wake up man, it was american policy to do that, straight down from rummy.

    and we should treat all HUMANS under the geneva convention


    thanks dude, im wide awake.

    it was never american policy to piss on prisioners. a handful of young soliders made mistakes and have been punished.

    sure treat them HUMANELY. but el queda prisioners are not entitled to the rights of the geneva convention. that being said, they still should not be tortured, ever.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    jlew24asu wrote:
    thanks dude, im wide awake.

    it was never american policy to piss on prisioners. a handful of young soliders made mistakes and have been punished.

    sure treat them HUMANELY. but el queda prisioners are not entitled to the rights of the geneva convention. that being said, they still should not be tortured, ever.
    If this is just some handful of young soldiers, then why is Bush trying to have the rules changed?

    Why, for example, when asked about waterboarding, did Bush say he did't want to discuss it because, get this, he didn't want to discuss tactics openly because then the enemy could adapt? Why not call it what it is - water torture? And how the hell can the enemy "adapt" to waterboarding? Grow gills?
  • pickupyourwill
    pickupyourwill Posts: 3,135
    brain of c wrote:
    i think every time he speaks, an angel's wings fall off.

    lol!! that's so harsh--but funny.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you mean radical muslims. and anyone who is against freedom.


    we all have the freedom to have our phones wiretapped w/o cause, court order or even letting anyone else know.

    the freedom to assemble and protest just as long as the politicians can't actually see or hear us

    the freedom to go to war that's just another politicians lie where they are too cheap to buy me adequate protection adn make it illegal for my parents to buy me any and then want to cut my health insurance off after 1 month of being back <if a reservist>

    the freedom to have my bank alert someone if i make a larger than usual deposit or withdrawal

    the right to be put on a watch list just for going to a protest

    hey...it seems like this administration is agaisnt freedom, to me!
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    El_Kabong wrote:
    we all have the freedom to have our phones wiretapped w/o cause, court order or even letting anyone else know.

    the freedom to assemble and protest just as long as the politicians can't actually see or hear us

    the freedom to go to war that's just another politicians lie where they are too cheap to buy me adequate protection adn make it illegal for my parents to buy me any and then want to cut my health insurance off after 1 month of being back <if a reservist>

    the freedom to have my bank alert someone if i make a larger than usual deposit or withdrawal

    the right to be put on a watch list just for going to a protest

    hey...it seems like this administration is agaisnt freedom, to me!

    being a tad bit picky arent we? personally I'm glad my bank alerts me if I make a larger then usual withdrawal. would suck if they didnt, and someone got away with my money.

    are we forced to watch 1 tv or radio station? Do i need to have to keep a picture of George W on my wall? Can women vote/drive/go to school/marry anyone they want? will I go to jail if I say something bad about Bush?
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    jlew24asu wrote:
    being a tad bit picky arent we? personally I'm glad my bank alerts me if I make a larger then usual withdrawal. would suck if they didnt, and someone got away with my money.

    are we forced to watch 1 tv or radio station? Do i need to have to keep a picture of George W on my wall? Can women vote/drive/go to school/marry anyone they want? will I go to jail if I say something bad about Bush?


    no, the bank doesn't alert YOU they alert the authorities.

    so women driving and being able to say something about bush is the pinnacle of freedom for you?

    and no, women can't marry who they want, what if they wanted to marry another girl?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    El_Kabong wrote:
    no, the bank doesn't alert YOU they alert the authorities.

    so women driving and being able to say something about bush is the pinnacle of freedom for you?

    and no, women can't marry who they want, what if they wanted to marry another girl?


    good, as long as they alert somebody. I'm glad they are looking out for me.


    a pinnacle of freedom? no. but freedom none the less.

    so now you want to turn this into a gay marriage debate? dont try and tell me women are treated well in the middle east. I think women would rather have american freedoms vs. living in pakistan and can be raped by whoever is horny at the time
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    good, as long as they alert somebody. I'm glad they are looking out for me.


    a pinnacle of freedom? no. but freedom none the less.

    so now you want to turn this into a gay marriage debate? dont try and tell me women are treated well in the middle east. I think women would rather have american freedoms vs. living in pakistan and can be raped by whoever is horny at the time

    It's all well and good comparing your version of freedom to a countries with less, but it does not take away the points made by El kabong, the lovely western goverments are slowly taking away our percieved freedoms too.

    The freedom you think you have is an illusion.

    You are only free as long as you live within the rules of the country, Now is that TRUE FREEDOM?
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    so now you want to turn this into a gay marriage debate? dont try and tell me women are treated well in the middle east. I think women would rather have american freedoms vs. living in pakistan and can be raped by whoever is horny at the time


    You are right about women in the middle east. They can't even wail at the same part of the wall with men. So much for being advanced.


    As for Bush's speach. Par for the bigot in all of us. I fail to see when Cdn soldiers are being killed in Afgan how that democratically elected head is doing a good job. Then I look into Iraq and think of the mess it was before your beloved army got there. As I said, par for the course.
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  • Eva7
    Eva7 Posts: 226
    jlew24asu wrote:
    "to fight radicalism and terror with justice and dignity, to achieve a true peace, founded on human freedom."

    I think this is the funniest sentence ever from Bush. I am starting to enjoy his comedian talent.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    spiral out wrote:
    It's all well and good comparing your version of freedom to a countries with less, but it does not take away the points made by El kabong, the lovely western goverments are slowly taking away our percieved freedoms too.

    The freedom you think you have is an illusion.

    You are only free as long as you live within the rules of the country, Now is that TRUE FREEDOM?

    well I guess we need to ask if TRUE freedom really exsists. maybe it doesnt, but I happy with the freedoms I have in america.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    jlew24asu wrote:
    well I guess we need to ask if TRUE freedom really exsists. maybe it doesnt, but I happy with the freedoms I have in america.

    I am getting so sick of that word, freedom. Yes everyone should be free to live like they want, but don't talk out of both sides of your mouth. The President was elected by the people of the United States. We didn't elect him into office to take away our freedoms so we can spread it to the rest of the world. If he wants to spread freedom to those areas, he should run for allmighty ruler of those countries.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I am getting so sick of that word, freedom. Yes everyone should be free to live like they want, but don't talk out of both sides of your mouth. The President was elected by the people of the United States. We didn't elect him into office to take away our freedoms so we can spread it to the rest of the world. If he wants to spread freedom to those areas, he should run for allmighty ruler of those countries.


    how can he run for almighty ruler if they dont hold elections.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    how can he run for almighty ruler if they dont hold elections.


    If they did and Bush won. At least we could send in a military to wipe him out because it isn't the party WE wanted to get elected in in the first place by giving them a chance to voice their freedoms. ;)

    EDIT: Maybe the States should send the Diaboldt people over to the middle east to ensure the people they want will win.
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