good for Clinton. this is a great cause.

jlew24asu

Ahnimus wrote:

I'm eating a big 'ol bag of lays potato chips today. For lunch I'm going to have a big bucket of fries and gravy. I won't be eating dinner as usual, maybe a bag of popcorn.

I don't work-out and I'm still alive. A bit overweight, but not much. I'll probably die from a blood clot or heart attack, but my eating and exercise habits have very little effect on my physique.

you just called yourself a fatass. I would say it has alot to do with your physique. if you look in the mirror and are happy with a fat hairy gut and clogged arteries. eat away tubby

jlew24asu

Ahnimus wrote:

What exactly is "gross" about obesity?

seriously?

Ahnimus

jlew24asu wrote:

you just called yourself a fatass. I would say it has alot to do with your physique. if you look in the mirror and are happy with a fat hairy gut and clogged arteries. eat away tubby

I am getting pretty tired of you jlew24asu.

I can't access my personal profile from work, myspace is restricted, but perhaps later I will post a link and you can eat your fucking words. Be thankful I don't report your ass.

Vedderlution_Baby

When's the last time any of you dudes have eaten high school lunch? or school lunch for that matter? It's fucking disgusting. Instead of giving contracts out to companies who are going to give you five thousand cardboard sandwiches for two dollars schools need to be given more money to access companies who can prodivde enough food that appeals to childern WHILE keeping the food healthy. At my old high school, two years ago I read something that the school went with the company that they did because they offered the best nutrional value and price. What the fuck. It was pizza that was more greasy than any pizza hut, domino's, papa john's, etc. Cold hamburgers. Taco salads that looked like a baby shat on a plate, cold fires, vegetables that looked like they had been harvested in the days of jesus, a very small carton of milk, lowfat milk, or "chocolate" milk (by chocolate I mean they took a brown crayon, melted, and mixed it into the milk). If you want the kids to stop going to the snack machines, you have to offer them something that isn't going to make them sick. You have to offer food that not only holds up on the nutrional scale but also appeals to the childern and makes them think "Snickers? No way dude, I'm going to get a real lunch". You have to offer something that's going to make the kids want to stay on campus for lunch instead of running to the fastes burger joint. Schools need more money so they can do these types of things.

Ahnimus

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

When's the last time any of you dudes have eaten high school lunch? or school lunch for that matter? It's fucking disgusting. Instead of giving contracts out to companies who are going to give you five thousand cardboard sandwiches for two dollars schools need to be given more money to access companies who can prodivde enough food that appeals to childern WHILE keeping the food healthy. At my old high school, two years ago I read something that the school went with the company that they did because they offered the best nutrional value and price. What the fuck. It was pizza that was more greasy than any pizza hut, domino's, papa john's, etc. Cold hamburgers. Taco salads that looked like a baby shat on a plate, cold fires, vegetables that looked like they had been harvested in the days of jesus, a very small carton of milk, lowfat milk, or "chocolate" milk (by chocolate I mean they took a brown crayon, melted, and mixed it into the milk). If you want the kids to stop going to the snack machines, you have to offer them something that isn't going to make them sick. You have to offer food that not only holds up on the nutrional scale but also appeals to the childern and makes them think "Snickers? No way dude, I'm going to get a real lunch". You have to offer something that's going to make the kids want to stay on campus for lunch instead of running to the fastes burger joint. Schools need more money so they can do these types of things.

And a really good marketing campaign that'll blow Snickers out of the water.

None of the schools I attended had food at all. The Cafeteria was just a room with a bunch of tables in it. The only place to get food in the entire schools was the snack machines and pop machines. The water from the fountains was totally disgusting and the nearest restaurant was 15 blocks away. So, if your parents didn't pack you a lunch, you were eating chips and pop. My parents didn't pack me a lunch, well, when I was little they did, but when I was 13 I didn't live with them anymore, so... I ate Raisin Bran and Nachos every day.

jlew24asu

Ahnimus wrote:

I am getting pretty tired of you jlew24asu.

I can't access my personal profile from work, myspace is restricted, but perhaps later I will post a link and you can eat your fucking words. Be thankful I don't report your ass.

what are you tired of? you said you were fat and ok with it. report me to who? admins can read. your getting sick of me? is that a thread of some sort? maybe I will have my country invade yours. that'll show you

Ahnimus wrote:

I'm eating a big 'ol bag of lays potato chips today. For lunch I'm going to have a big bucket of fries and gravy. I won't be eating dinner as usual, maybe a bag of popcorn.

I don't work-out and I'm still alive. A bit overweight,

Ahnimus

jlew24asu wrote:

what are you tired of? you said you were fat and ok with it. report me to who? admins can read. your getting sick of me? is that a thread of some sort? maybe I will have my country invade yours. that'll show you

Yea, I said a bit overweight, for my body type I should probably be around 165 lbs but I'm around 175 lbs.

Let's look at what you said:

jlew24asu wrote:

you just called yourself a fatass. I would say it has alot to do with your physique. if you look in the mirror and are happy with a fat hairy gut and clogged arteries. eat away tubby

I said overweight, you said "fatass", "fat hairy gut" and "tubby".

First of all, I don't have a fat ass, the majority of my excess fat cells are in my stomach/abdominal region, my gut is only as hairy as genetics dictates which isn't even close to animal-like or a natural amount of hair, and tubby, well that's just a final jab at me.

jlew24asu

Ahnimus wrote:

Yea, I said a bit overweight, for my body type I should probably be around 165 lbs but I'm around 175 lbs.

Let's look at what you said:


I said overweight, you said "fatass", "fat hairy gut" and "tubby".

First of all, I don't have a fat ass, the majority of my excess fat cells are in my stomach/abdominal region, my gut is only as hairy as genetics dictates which isn't even close to animal-like or a natural amount of hair, and tubby, well that's just a final jab at me.

im sorry here in america we healthy people refer to fatasses as people with big fat bellies. I apologize for the confusion. I meant no disrespect.

Vedderlution_Baby

jlew24asu wrote:

im sorry here in america we healthy people refer to fatasses as people with big fat bellies. I apologize for the confusion. I meant no disrespect.

Not all of em. Only those who need to bring themselves up.

jlew24asu

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

Not all of em. Only those who need to bring themselves up.

or to try and motive the "gross" obese people to get healthy.

Vedderlution_Baby

jlew24asu wrote:

or to try and motive the "gross" obese people to get healthy.

There is a difference between motivation and insulting. "Fat hairy gut" and "tubby" don't seem to be good inspiration for movitation.

jlew24asu

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

There is a difference between motivation and insulting. "Fat hairy gut" and "tubby" don't seem to be good inspiration for movitation.

would be for me. but then again I'm not obese. I care about my health and appearance

Uncle Leo

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

There is a difference between motivation and insulting. "Fat hairy gut" and "tubby" don't seem to be good inspiration for movitation.

That's true. Some overweight people that eat too much go striaght to the fridge when someone mocks them. Picking on them is not motivation.

I was about 40 pounds overweight--and I was getting about an hour of vigorous exercise 6 days a week! I just flat out ate to much. So for my 2003 new years resolution: No pop, no late night eating, no eating all the shit people bring to work (people are amazed I can follow through with this), and a couple of other things. 3.5 years and still at ideal weight. But when I was fat, people mocking me did not help. I don't think it exacerbated things, but it was not helpful.

By the way. When someone with a fat hairy gut loses weight, his stomach remains hairy :(

jlew24asu

Uncle Leo wrote:

That's true. Some overweight people that eat too much go striaght to the fridge when someone mocks them. Picking on them is not motivation.

I was about 40 pounds overweight--and I was getting about an hour of vigorous exercise 6 days a week! I just flat out ate to much. So for my 2003 new years resolution: No pop, no late night eating, no eating all the shit people bring to work (people are amazed I can follow through with this), and a couple of other things. 3.5 years and still at ideal weight. But when I was fat, people mocking me did not help. I don't think it exacerbated things, but it was not helpful.

By the way. When someone with a fat hairy gut loses weight, his stomach remains hairy :(

good for you congats! I hope you stay healthy.

get some nair for the belly.

Ahnimus

jlew24asu wrote:

good for you congats! I hope you stay healthy.

get some nair for the belly.

You watch too much television.

Uncle Leo

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

That "be who you are!" "be true to yourself!" attitude is being applied towards obesity now.

Anyone see Stan Lee's show 'who wants to be a super hero" ?

An obese woman who called herself 'fat momma' and threw donuts at her enemies made it into the final 2.

Being comfortable and proud to be overweight isn't self respect. In fact it's the opposite, it's self-destruction.

Obesity is a terribly unhealthy and disgusting problem and we shouldn't pretend it's something to be tolerated.

The first time someone gets fired for being fat and sues, if he/she wins i'll shoot myself in the leg.

"Yeah you got fired, you weigh 400 pounds, you're disgusting. Your presence grosses people out and you're not trying to do anything about it! You go to McCdonalds for breakfast AND lunch every goddamn day!" ... Once that argument is invalid in court we've lost it.

Interesting points. We almost have to tell the average person to be comfortable with themselves because our popular culture throws chiseled male bodies at us and female bodies that are too thin if anything. Someone in their ideal weight range that does not have a six-pack, should not feel bad--because that person is not unhealthy.

Some people also will be 10 to 20 pounds over weight even if they excercise and eat very well. But these are not really who we are talking about.

Having been fat, and thin, my feeling is that it is not OK to be obese (I was just a few pounds away from obesity when I lost all of the weight). Aside from those few with glandular problems (and they do exist) most who are very overweight are so because of their own lifestyles. I have seen people use cars for trips of less than a block (ok almost two blocks round trip). "Convenience" is not always the right choice. The amount of excercise you need to make your heart healthier is not that much--and not that hard core. All you need to do is walk at a decent pace.

And there is nothing wrong with having a "treat." If fast food is your thing and you eat at McDonalds a couple of times a month, fine. But if you are going there multiple times a week, you are just flat being unhealthy. Ice cream is my thing and I just enjoy it in MUCH more moderation now. This is more than your appearance--it is how long you will live and the quality of your life.

People need to take care of themselves and right now they just don't. And I agree with PJ&T--it is not OK and while we should not point and laugh at people on the street (because it does not help), the message that it is ok should not be sent.

I am not entirely on board with the "firing fat people for being fat is OK" statement. I guess I am not as grossed out by overweight people as PJ and T, but I am in total agreement that being obese is terrible and should not just be accepted the way, say a nose ring should.

I think (though have nothing to back this up with) that some Doctors think that being obese is as bad as being a pack-a-day smoker.

Ahnimus

I don't think we should care that much what other people do. If you want to provide eduaction, that's fine. I think most people know the effects of unhealthy eating.

Is it too much to ask people to mind their own business?

Vedderlution_Baby

Ahnimus wrote:

Is it too much to ask people to mind their own business?

Way too much

Uncle Leo

jlew24asu wrote:

good for you congats! I hope you stay healthy.

get some nair for the belly.

A hairy belly SHOULD be accepted. It's not my fault it is hairy.

No worries about the health. 3.5 years at ideal weight (makes me a member of a very rare club). It was really easy. Previously, every bad eating choice was just made almost subconciously. Once I decided that "THIS is the reason I am overweight" all I really had to do was be sensible and over a 5 mohth period, I made it to ideal and have remained there.

The advantages I had were a) I ate like a pig. Curtailing that did wonders and b), I excersed like a madman so I already lived at least part of a healthy lifestyle. It was fun though, shocking people at healthclubs with how long and vigorously I could go at 5'7" and 195 pounds. People were blown away.

Uncle Leo

Ahnimus wrote:

I don't think we should care that much what other people do. If you want to provide eduaction, that's fine. I think most people know the effects of unhealthy eating.

Is it too much to ask people to mind their own business?

I'll tell you this. Where I live, the average person is fairly overweight. While that does not offend me, my healthcare is going way up for next year due to the use. Not all of the use was do to obesity (I cannot think of anyone that had a heart attack or anything), but people having heart attacks, strokes, diabetes and even back problems that could have been prevented causes medical insurance to have to skyrocket.

So I see your point. If my coworker that just walked by (25 or 30 pounds overweight, I guess) goes to McDonalds tonight and never excercises again, I should not really care. But if his weight leads to major medical expenses, all of his coworkers (myself included) will pay some of the price.