Bill O'Reilly talking points memo..

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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I agree with him on these points... America is deeply divided. We have allowed the extremists on each end to wield too much influence and split the country into two seperate camps. We are Red or Blue, Conservative or Liberal, Right or Left, Republican or Democrat and those on the other side have been portrayed as the enemy. If you believe this, then you are part of the problem.
    A 'Liberal' is not your enemy. He is simply an American with a different outlook on politics. Your real enemy is in an apartment somewhere trying to figure out how to kill Americans with a dirty bomb, not some guy that thinks President Bush is a tool. The same goes for the opposite view... Conservatives are not the enemy. The political extremist that are stripping you of your Constitutuional Rights are the enemies of America. If the enemies of America 'Hate Our Freedoms', we should not be doing their will by dismantling our freedoms ourselves.
    Regarding Iraq... I believe we have pretty much set the course for that place. The 60%+ and growing Shi'ite majority is going to take power over there... that is a given. We pretty much handed Iraq over to Iran, so whether we stay of go, Iraq is going to be a Shi'ite state. Will they be influenced by Iran, who knows? I don't and i don't pretend to know.
    I do not believe that our military is at fault, our politicians and leaders and supporters are to blame for the Iraq mess. The military is simply one of the leverage tools we have deployed in order to exact our vision of the New World order in the Middle East. And things in Afghanistan are not a bed of roses. in Iraq, we have placed our soldiers in a shitty situation and need to figureout a way to get them out of there.
    Pulling them from Iraq does not mean removing them from the region. Why not set up camp in Afghanistan, where we can still project military influence, without getting entangled in Iraq's internal political/religious fighting?
    And i don't know what will happen if we leave... I am certain that the sectarian killings will go on... but, they are ongoing with our guys in the middle of it. Same goes for the terrorists... who knows? We were told in no uncertain terms that the withdrawal of American troops from Viet Nam in 1967 would surely lead to the spread of Communism is Southeast Asia and create a Communist block in that portion of the world that will result is some sort of nuclear exchange in the future. In other words... we don't know what's in the future for Iraq.
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    But, yeah... America is a divided nation. We can thank our politicians and our television talking heads for leading us this way... but, we have to blame ourselves for buying into this shit. If you believe that 'Liberals' or 'Conservatives' are the enemy... well, the bottom line is, you're probably an idiot that get his education from the t.v.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Cosmo wrote:
    that get his education from the t.v.
    America, what a country!! - Yakov Smirnoff
  • no situation in iraq will ever stop the division between sunni and shia...all we have done is cause a festering boil...when we talk about "why can't we just get along" in this country, we have no way to comphrehend that situation between those two thought paradigms.

    moving our military to a strategic area would be good. it would take our soldiers out of harm's way and it would present the cloak or non-meddling in the hot-bed that is iraq. iran might back off of their rhetoric.

    i have always wondered why we meddle...we meddle and they hate us and want to kill us...don't meddle, i have to assume, they would at least not hate us...and would leave us to ourselves. but, we meddle. oh well.
    I'll dig a tunnel
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