The Clintongate Administration

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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    jlew24asu wrote:
    every argument about bush always comes down to the iraq war. leave that out and he must be the best president we ever had.


    no, there's lots of other things...cutting the head start program, cutting the program to test school lunch meat for salmonella <which he put back in saying it was a mistake after too many ppl complained>, cutting student loans, cutting medicare/aid <hmmm, didn't he run in 2000 saying he was deeply concerned about all the ppl w/o healthcare? just like him saying we're not the world police and you can't use the military for nation building>, all the cuts to environmental laws, dismissing the law suits against polluters who broke federal law, giving more and more tax breaks to the oil and gas industry <who coincidentally have 'donated' roughly a billion $ to politicians since 2000>, all the things he's vetoed and boycotted at the UN like comprehensive nuke bans, biological and chemical weapons bans, rights of the child....i coudl go on and on...it's not just iraq...but it was a nice attempt at dodging my point.
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    El_Kabong wrote:
    no, there's lots of other things...cutting the head start program, cutting the program to test school lunch meat for salmonella <which he put back in saying it was a mistake after too many ppl complained>, cutting student loans, cutting medicare/aid <hmmm, didn't he run in 2000 saying he was deeply concerned about all the ppl w/o healthcare? just like him saying we're not the world police and you can't use the military for nation building>, all the cuts to environmental laws, dismissing the law suits against polluters who broke federal law, giving more and more tax breaks to the oil and gas industry <who coincidentally have 'donated' roughly a billion $ to politicians since 2000>, all the things he's vetoed and boycotted at the UN like comprehensive nuke bans, biological and chemical weapons bans, rights of the child....i coudl go on and on...it's not just iraq...but it was a nice attempt at dodging my point.



    people complain about too much spending and also complain about making cuts. sounds like a win win situation to me
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    jlew24asu wrote:
    people complain about too much spending and also complain about making cuts. sounds like a win win situation to me


    i think the cuts he made are a bit smaller than the reckless spending of his
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    El_Kabong wrote:
    i think the cuts he made are a bit smaller than the reckless spending of his


    thats great but you still complain when he does either.
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    worst president ever imo
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    jlew24asu wrote:
    thats great but you still complain when he does either.


    no, i complain on what it's being spent on. if he's using tax money to fund a weapons program owned by his dad's company, which the pentagon voted agaisnt funding repeatedly, only to have it pulled, again, after the pentagon said they didn't want it, but only after the contract was paid...i have a problem w/ that. if he has millions to give halliburton as a bonus for feeding our troops spoiled meat but no money for their protection <body armor, armored vehicles> i have a problem w/ it. kinda like if my g/f went and blew the mortgage money on coke i'd have a problem w/ that instead of her spending the money on the mortgage...see how that works?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • NakedClown
    NakedClown Posts: 545
    miller8966 wrote:
    worst president ever imo

    Who - Bush or Clinton - this thread has devolved into a different thread, so I'm not sure who you are talking about...
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    In Bush's mind, while everyone here will disagree, he really believes he is protecting America to the best of his ability. Clinton is far more corrupt and 2 faced then Bush.
    That is where the biggest difference is then between you and I. I couldn't disagree with you more on that point. There is no doubt in my mind at all that Clinton had and still has the better of this country at heart of all of his desicions that effect what he does (blow jobs are not here nor there). Bush on the other hand couldn't be more for following his own agenda and couldn't care less what is better for this country. I do beleive down to the core, President George Walker Bush is a very bad man.
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    El_Kabong....tellin' it as it is.
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    I mean just Katrina alone....the way he conducted the Federal Responce....he's a very bad man.

    I don't understand how ANYONE can defend Bush and say that Clinton was worse....what a joke!
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I never attacked major networks and papers....I am the usually the one getting attacked for agreeing with them on issues like 9/11. the only site I have a major problem with is the 911research bullshit.


    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=3778396&postcount=196

    you said:
    "so the wall street jounal said it, it must be true."

    funny thing is that was said TODAY after this post i'm replying to!

    sorry, but while i don't believe something just b/c it's published i tend to think a paper like the wall street journal has a bit more credability than some members.tripod site
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    El_Kabong wrote:
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=3778396&postcount=196

    you said:
    "so the wall street jounal said it, it must be true."

    funny thing is that was said TODAY after this post i'm replying to!

    sorry, but while i don't believe something just b/c it's published i tend to think a paper like the wall street journal has a bit more credability than some members.tripod site


    I wasnt attacking the paper, I just wanted some proof. and you showed what I was asking for. I happen to like the WSJ

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