Are you fed up yet?

WindNoSailWindNoSail Posts: 580
edited June 2008 in A Moving Train
Assuming it is BO and JC in the general election, what's the chance you won't vote out of lack of interest?
HOB 10.05.2005, E Rutherford 06.03.2006, The Gorge 07.22.2006, Lolla 08.05.2007, West Palm 06.11.2008, Tampa 06.12.2008, Columbia 06.16.2008, EV Memphis 06.20.2009, New Orleans 05.01.2010, Kansas City 05.03.2010
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  • wwfairfieldwwfairfield Posts: 216
    WindNoSail wrote:
    Assuming it is BO and JC in the general election, what's the chance you won't vote out of lack of interest?


    bad odor and jesus christ are our choices ??

    give me the stink
  • WindNoSailWindNoSail Posts: 580
    bad odor and jesus christ are our choices ??

    give me the stink

    Exactly, its a trick question.
    HOB 10.05.2005, E Rutherford 06.03.2006, The Gorge 07.22.2006, Lolla 08.05.2007, West Palm 06.11.2008, Tampa 06.12.2008, Columbia 06.16.2008, EV Memphis 06.20.2009, New Orleans 05.01.2010, Kansas City 05.03.2010
  • justamjustam Posts: 21,412
    I'm still going to vote though.

    I opened this thread thinking it'd be about gas prices. I really almost couldn't bring myself to purchase gas this week (even though the tank was empty) because I was revolted by the price. I really resented being in a situation where I was forced to pay that!!
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  • patrickredeyespatrickredeyes Posts: 8,834
    WindNoSail wrote:
    Assuming it is BO and JC in the general election, what's the chance you won't vote out of lack of interest?


    This time around I'm sitting this one out.
  • Put none of the above on the ballet. A vote for no confidence.

    absolutely brilliant idea.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • This time around I'm sitting this one out.

    on behalf of the sane half of this population I'm begging you not to do that.

    you'll feel really bad if McCain wins. you'll wonder if you couldn't have made a difference.

    take 5 seconds to do the right thing.

    um, unless you're voting republican than feel free to sit it out.
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    on behalf of the sane half of this population I'm begging you not to do that.

    you'll feel really bad if McCain wins. you'll wonder if you couldn't have made a difference.

    take 5 seconds to do the right thing.

    um, unless you're voting republican than feel free to sit it out.


    so what you are saying is 'vote the way i want you to or don't vote at all'?

    if you're gonna vote for somebody i'd think it should be a much better reason than s/he's not someone else
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • qtegirlqtegirl Posts: 321
    You should always vote. It's funny how people who live in an actual democracy and get to make a difference take those things for granted!
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,299
    Are either candidates ideal? Absolutely not.

    Not voting is IMO one of the dumbest things you can possibly do. Then again I guess it give you a perfect excuse to bitch and moan. The idea that an individual not voting here and there will perhaps "say something" is saying nothing more than you being completely fucking worthless...especially on a year that 10's if not 100's of thousands more come out to vote given our current situation. Way to go! You showed them!
    Is Obama perfect? Not by a long shot, but sitting at home frustrated by the daily news...and doing nothing more than logging on to a message board to vent your frustration (oh, and convincing nobody) will solve nothing. For a country that is as fucked up as ours, baby steps are better then no steps...or taking steps backwards (as we have for the last 7.5 years).
    Hooray for doing nothing! Hooray for another 4 years of bitching on a Pearl Jam message board!
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    mca47 wrote:
    Are either candidates ideal? Absolutely not.

    Not voting is IMO one of the dumbest things you can possibly do. Then again I guess it give you a perfect excuse to bitch and moan. The idea that an individual not voting here and there will perhaps "say something" is saying nothing more than you being completely fucking worthless...especially on a year that 10's if not 100's of thousands more come out to vote given our current situation. Way to go! You showed them!
    Is Obama perfect? Not by a long shot, but sitting at home frustrated by the daily news...and doing nothing more than logging on to a message board to vent your frustration (oh, and convincing nobody) will solve nothing. For a country that is as fucked up as ours, baby steps are better then no steps...or taking steps backwards (as we have for the last 7.5 years).
    Hooray for doing nothing! Hooray for another 4 years of bitching on a Pearl Jam message board!


    what baby steps will obama make???

    our troops will still be in iraq in 2013
    the for profit health 'care' and pharmaceutical industry will still be in control
    israel will still illegally tear down and murder palestinians to build more illegal settlements
    if we're lucky maybe 25% renewable energy by 2025
    increased and 'modernized' military and budget
    no gay marriage


    oh, i think someone mentioned maybe women's health....sorry, i don't see those as any form of steps....well maybe some real tiny insect....
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • mca47 wrote:
    Are either candidates ideal? Absolutely not.

    Not voting is IMO one of the dumbest things you can possibly do. Then again I guess it give you a perfect excuse to bitch and moan. The idea that an individual not voting here and there will perhaps "say something" is saying nothing more than you being completely fucking worthless...especially on a year that 10's if not 100's of thousands more come out to vote given our current situation. Way to go! You showed them!
    Is Obama perfect? Not by a long shot, but sitting at home frustrated by the daily news...and doing nothing more than logging on to a message board to vent your frustration (oh, and convincing nobody) will solve nothing. For a country that is as fucked up as ours, baby steps are better then no steps...or taking steps backwards (as we have for the last 7.5 years).
    Hooray for doing nothing! Hooray for another 4 years of bitching on a Pearl Jam message board!

    No one has said any candidate is perfect nor has anyone said we thought you viewed your candidate as such. The problem with Obama for some of us is just how faaaar from perfect he really is.

    Also, I have changed my mind on issues because of well explained and thought out views on this message board. I'm not so stubborn in my beliefs that I would come on to a political message board and expect people to give my views a listen and take them into consideration if I wasn't going to be doing the exact same thing for their views. There are a few posters on this board who have caught my attention, gave me a lot to think about and actually helped change my views. I appreciate having this outlet available to express and evolve my outlook on this country, the world and life in general. To me, saying that no one will change your mind here is only pointing to a closed one.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    oh I'm voting, for all the other elections as well. But as far as the presidency is concerned. I'm not sure it matters that much anyway.... the president is only really a public figurehead after all.


    I'll just continue being part of that 1 - 10% in the other columns
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    justam wrote:
    I'm still going to vote though.

    I opened this thread thinking it'd be about gas prices. I really almost couldn't bring myself to purchase gas this week (even though the tank was empty) because I was revolted by the price. I really resented being in a situation where I was forced to pay that!!

    Who forced you? ;)

    As much as it pains me, and hits my pocket, we're not forced to buy gas for our cars by anyone but ourselves...I still wish it was cheaper!!!!
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    No one has said any candidate is perfect nor has anyone said we thought you viewed your candidate as such. The problem with Obama for some of us is just how faaaar from perfect he really is.

    It's statements like this that actually make me consider voting fro him...I am a bit worried to do so, but if you don't like him, he must be ok for me. ;)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    mca47 wrote:
    Are either candidates ideal? Absolutely not.

    Not voting is IMO one of the dumbest things you can possibly do. Then again I guess it give you a perfect excuse to bitch and moan. The idea that an individual not voting here and there will perhaps "say something" is saying nothing more than you being completely fucking worthless...especially on a year that 10's if not 100's of thousands more come out to vote given our current situation. Way to go! You showed them!
    Is Obama perfect? Not by a long shot, but sitting at home frustrated by the daily news...and doing nothing more than logging on to a message board to vent your frustration (oh, and convincing nobody) will solve nothing. For a country that is as fucked up as ours, baby steps are better then no steps...or taking steps backwards (as we have for the last 7.5 years).
    Hooray for doing nothing! Hooray for another 4 years of bitching on a Pearl Jam message board!

    shhhhh the ones bitching would have voted republican.....let them sit at home and sulk.
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    El_Kabong wrote:
    what baby steps will obama make???

    our troops will still be in iraq in 2013
    the for profit health 'care' and pharmaceutical industry will still be in control
    israel will still illegally tear down and murder palestinians to build more illegal settlements
    if we're lucky maybe 25% renewable energy by 2025
    increased and 'modernized' military and budget
    no gay marriage


    oh, i think someone mentioned maybe women's health....sorry, i don't see those as any form of steps....well maybe some real tiny insect....
    we'll have better supreme court nominee's......just that will be beneficial....add to this we're showing minorities we're not a bunch of white crackers...show Muslims as well as rest of the world we are a fair country...and anyone can be president..we rise above our fears....we realize the last president and his goons aren't supported by the majority of our population.....vote for Obama......I garantee the price of oil will go down and the value of the dollar will go up. Lots no...but better than voting for another bush term.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • It's statements like this that actually make me consider voting fro him...I am a bit worried to do so, but if you don't like him, he must be ok for me. ;)


    It's nice to know I'm still a part of influencing your decisions, cincy. ;)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • writersuwritersu Posts: 1,867
    pretty much 95%. even if it's hc or bo. won't vote for anyone I do not trust. and my no comment is sort of my comment. you know?
    Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......


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  • writersuwritersu Posts: 1,867
    El_Kabong wrote:
    so what you are saying is 'vote the way i want you to or don't vote at all'?

    if you're gonna vote for somebody i'd think it should be a much better reason than s/he's not someone else


    yes, I agree. thanks.

    I have been on political threads where we are all freedom of speech unless you disagree, so now I sit it out and only agree with those who have the guts to speak up.
    Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......


    Together we will float like angels.........

    In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
  • Number 18Number 18 Posts: 132
    I hope the people bitching about a lack of quality, viable candidates were even more pissed about their choices in 2004...

    Can we ever talk about something new on this board?
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Hellllooooo people??? RN is running...

    So now your choices are:

    Body odor
    Jesus Christ
    OR
    registered nurse.

    You do the math.
  • Hellllooooo people??? RN is running...

    So now your choices are:

    Body odor
    Jesus Christ
    OR
    registered nurse.

    You do the math.

    hahaha


    nice :)


    and wouldn't you know it, RN is the only one out there doing real work to help people. :D
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • callen wrote:
    vote for Obama......I garantee the price of oil will go down and the value of the dollar will go up.

    Really? ! ??? ! ? ! ??? ! ? ! ??? ! ?
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  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Who forced you? ;)

    As much as it pains me, and hits my pocket, we're not forced to buy gas for our cars by anyone but ourselves...I still wish it was cheaper!!!!


    i guess you could say his boss forced him, if he can't get to work he'd be fired
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    callen wrote:
    we'll have better supreme court nominee's......just that will be beneficial....add to this we're showing minorities we're not a bunch of white crackers...show Muslims as well as rest of the world we are a fair country...and anyone can be president..we rise above our fears....we realize the last president and his goons aren't supported by the majority of our population.....vote for Obama......I garantee the price of oil will go down and the value of the dollar will go up. Lots no...but better than voting for another bush term.


    it shouldn't be about race or sex or anything other than who can do the job to the best of your ideals.

    how will obama make the pirce of oil go down and the dollar go up??
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Hellllooooo people??? RN is running...

    So now your choices are:

    Body odor
    Jesus Christ
    OR
    registered nurse.

    You do the math.
    registered nurse/man god (matt gonzalez)

    wow.

    i'd like to see that. endlessly.

    ;)
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    El_Kabong wrote:
    i guess you could say his boss forced him, if he can't get to work he'd be fired

    He could live within walking distance...or bike, no?

    Look, I love to blame things on others as much as the rest of us, but the oil cost, etc is all of our faults and we have control...we just don't want to inconvience ourselves...me included.

    Certainly, it could be better...we could actually have a few more refineries for one...
    hippiemom = goodness
  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    justam wrote:
    I'm still going to vote though.

    I opened this thread thinking it'd be about gas prices. I really almost couldn't bring myself to purchase gas this week (even though the tank was empty) because I was revolted by the price. I really resented being in a situation where I was forced to pay that!!

    see, now i opened this thread thinking that maybe someone had decided that the bellyaching and whining about barack and his kooky pastors, his church attendance, his facial expressions, his name, his wife, his lapel pin (or lack thereof), his ears... wtfEVER, had become really, really tiresome. but, alas, it's just another bellyaching thread. so much for evolution, baby.
    "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

    "Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore

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  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    Hellllooooo people??? RN is running...

    huh. it took me a few seconds to even remember who RN refers to.
    "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

    "Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore

    "i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
    ~ed, 8/7
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    We should vote out all incumbents regardless of politics this fall as a message. If there's no real change before the next election, let's vote them all out again.

    Of course, the reason that won't work is that none of us can agree on what that change should be even if all of us could agree that the government is essentially making no progress on anything other than wasting our tax dollars.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
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