Derogatory Cursing in songs?

Derrick

How do you feel about swearing and cursing in songs? How do you feel about derogatory labels?

There is a sharp trend coming to curb certain words in music. Do you think it will be good? Do you think it will be bad? do you think it will, in anyway, affect future PJ recordings? I know most of the heat right now is on rap, coming out of the Don Imus thing, but if standards are set for the entire music industry, what then?

I personally believe the more you restrict something, the more popular it becomes. So as lyrics get dirtier and dirtier, the allure of listing to Parental Advisory sticker albums is less glossy. People get used to certain words and dont' care anymore. Global restrictions are just going to create another 2LiveCrew. A crappy band made famous by pushing an envelope.

sleeplikeadog

I don't believe in the censoring of anything, but I do think that if certain people in certain aspects of entertainment and music are going to be censored, then everyone should be. Rappers aren't anymore special than a radio dj, tv personality, or whatever. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson need to get their shit together and go after everyone....not just white people. hehe

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I think PJ should do a Chillipeppers rip and wear socks on their cox for a few sets..every so often...lol

swearing would be optional...

PaperPlates

Fuck that fucking shit, those fuckers.

FinsburyParkCarrots

Ask these two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTJmTJxCFHs

Bu2

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Ask these two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTJmTJxCFHs

Fins, that made me laugh out loud just now. Good thing I'd already swallowed my swig of...um.....beer.

Jeanie

I cannot support censorship. Particularly when it comes to art.
And I agree that a nasty precedent sounds as though it's coming.
As you say it will probably only make it more popular to swear in music, but big deal, words are words. "There is no meaning other than that which you place upon it" If you can't cope with bad language then don't listen. Easy.
This world seems to be getting more and more like that bit in the Evolution film clip where we are all just sitting like drones plugged into the machine! I wish people could find a way to break out and fight for this very important basic freedom. The ramifications otherwise are too hideous to contemplate.

Bu2

and told me that movies who portray the main characters smoking cigarettes might be getting an automatic "R" rating in future.

The argument for this is that smoking cigarettes should be no different than sex, language, violence.....

I'd just like to know this: What would Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz think of that?

For you oldtimers out there (like me) who grew up on "I Love Lucy", can you think of any episode that didn't portray our beloved crazy redhead and her hubbie smoking a ciggie?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

Ask these two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTJmTJxCFHs

hahahah... that should have been a few minutes longer...

norm

Bu2 wrote:

and told me that movies who portray the main characters smoking cigarettes might be getting an automatic "R" rating in future.

The argument for this is that smoking cigarettes should be no different than sex, language, violence.....

I'd just like to know this: What would Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz think of that?

For you oldtimers out there (like me) who grew up on "I Love Lucy", can you think of any episode that didn't portray our beloved crazy redhead and her hubbie smoking a ciggie?

i was wondering if someone was gonna bring this up........saw this this morning in the paper.......i call bullshit......i gotta believe that every person that started smoking within the last 30 years knows it's bad for them.....i don't care how old you are.....if start smoking cuz lindsey lohan did in a movie you almost deserve to die.........now i don't really mean that but c'mon there's a big fuckin' sticker on it.........sorry if i came off harsh......:)

Bu2

and that's why I started my thread called Vodka and Orange, because earlier tonight when I was sober, my argument made sense.

How many laws will they change this year?
How many freedoms wiped out?
The answer my friend.....is blowing in the wind....
the answer is blowing in the wind......

Or, if we all got our piss and vinegar up once in a while, the answer could be blowing in some blogs....that will hit our representatives....that will hit our Congressmen.....that will hit our Senators.....that will hit our House and Congress.......that will hit our dumb ass blind deaf and dumb I don't read the papers President......

and then turn back to wind.......

know1

I don't like cursing at all in any situation. I think it's a sign of low intelligence.

Jeanie

Bu2 wrote:

and told me that movies who portray the main characters smoking cigarettes might be getting an automatic "R" rating in future.

The argument for this is that smoking cigarettes should be no different than sex, language, violence.....

I'd just like to know this: What would Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz think of that?

For you oldtimers out there (like me) who grew up on "I Love Lucy", can you think of any episode that didn't portray our beloved crazy redhead and her hubbie smoking a ciggie?

Not oldtimers bu!! I remember it vaguely, it's been such a long time since the old episodes of Lucy where shown on tv, but I do remember her face and the coughing!
This is crap btw! I'm starting to think that the Anti Smoking lobby is doing as much damage as the tobacco companies did. People aren't completely stupid. You can't just brush something under the rug and hope that by not exposing people to it that they will suddenly forget all about it! Not to mention that last time I looked, sex, language, and smoking are all legal activities. The answer as far as I can see is not to stop people seeing these things, its to offer them an alternative to them. If they take the alternative fine and good and if not so be it. It should still be a CHOICE right? Or am I dreaming that we still have the RIGHT TO CHOOSE?

Jeanie

know1 wrote:

I don't like cursing at all in any situation. I think it's a sign of low intelligence.

You think that about practically everybody as far as I can see.

Ok maybe that was harsh, but seems to me that if people don't agree with you or hold your views you seem to think they are stupid. As opposed to just not sharing your point of view. Perhaps I'm wrong. I think if you are so offended by words, any words then you musn't have enough to think about.

FinsburyParkCarrots

know1 wrote:

I don't like cursing at all in any situation. I think it's a sign of low intelligence.

"Ugg fuckin' ugg."


- Albert "The Kaaant" Einstein

know1

Jeanie wrote:

You think that about practically everybody as far as I can see.

Ok maybe that was harsh, but seems to me that if people don't agree with you or hold your views you seem to think they are stupid. As opposed to just not sharing your point of view. Perhaps I'm wrong. I think if you are so offended by words, any words then you musn't have enough to think about.

I definitely think cursing is a sign of low intelligence. I'm not offended by words, just making a judgment on the person using them.

I'd love to see examples of where I said anyone in particular is stupid for not holding the same view as me.

rigneyclan

Derrick wrote:

How do you feel about swearing and cursing in songs? How do you feel about derogatory labels?

I don't like censorship

gue_barium

know1 wrote:

I definitely think cursing is a sign of low intelligence. I'm not offended by words, just making a judgment on the person using them.

Nonsensical, continuous talks-like-a-sailor sort of cursing, sure, has something to be desired. I wouldn't necessarily fucking say that's due to low fucking intelligence.

cornnifer

the use of a well timed, carefully placed expletive in music, IMO, when used in such a way, can add much feeling, passion, and meaning, to a song.
Gratuitous swearing, just for the sake of swearing, IMO, sounds pretty stupid.

Pearl Jam and toast

Don't mind at all.

I do think it's funny that Pink can have such a big hit with a song about masturbation though. That fucking delights me.

know1

cornnifer wrote:

the use of a well timed, carefully placed expletive in music, IMO, when used in such a way, can add much feeling, passion, and meaning, to a song.
Gratuitous swearing, just for the sake of swearing, IMO, sounds pretty stupid.

Right. If someone drops a bowling ball on their foot, I can understand letting one fly. People who use them every other word sound like idiots.