5 years later and still no alternative fuel option
Derrick
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Who cares about Bin Laden or revenge on terrorists if we aren't working towards reversing the damage we've done to this planet? Paint the stars and stripes across the world when it becomes unlivable.
In 2008, eight precious years will have been lost to a stupid expensive war, and every dime could have been spent on the fuel cell, or some other engine fueling technology. Catch Osama or don't...it really doesn't matter. There are bigger problems. Much, much bigger.
He also said something like he would be happy for the planet to be finally rid of us. Too True. Maybe the next race to dominate this planet wont be so cruel.
In 2008, eight precious years will have been lost to a stupid expensive war, and every dime could have been spent on the fuel cell, or some other engine fueling technology. Catch Osama or don't...it really doesn't matter. There are bigger problems. Much, much bigger.
Prior to 'Wishlist' Ed talks about scientist Stephen Hawking and how he discovered that humans were only going to live a thousand more years on the planet. He says, "I'm trying to figure out what that means. Do we go fucking nuts for the next 1,000 years?" (Strumming rapidly on his guitar for a few seconds with his head back, freaking out.) "Or are we careful who we vote for?"
He also said something like he would be happy for the planet to be finally rid of us. Too True. Maybe the next race to dominate this planet wont be so cruel.
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Even if it was a goverments responsibility it is not only the US goverments responsibility, we are talking about earth, not just the American part of it.
yes they have
you can say it's not the government's responsibility, but is it their responsibility to slow it down? clinton had an initiative that auto makers had to have a prototype by a certain date...bush came in and got rid of it...even if we raised the fuel efficincy standard just 3 more miles to the gallon <which could easily be done> we would save more oil than even the best estimates of ANWR...but cheney said this was "unfair to ask of the auto industry"
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I would love to see what we could have come up with in 5 years if the $300+ billion dollars spent on the Iraq war could have been used for a "manhattan project" type energy project.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
the longer we refer to 'the government' 'their responsiblity' they will keep trating 'us' like peasants and know-nothings.. don't wait for 'your government', it's us can do something. 'the people'.. DO SOMETHING FOR YOURSELF! and than you can help the WORLD.
the government needs ... to do nothing!
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did i say it was their responsability? no, i said they were slowing it down.
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
what exactly do you want the government to do? the government paid for 65% of my solar electric array through tax incentives. the government is willing to pay you to use alternative energy sources. they will also pay you to develope other sources. do you want the government stepping into the free enterprise system and looking for more oil or forming companies in the system; or do you want them to do their job while we do ours?
im not knocking the government. I think they are helping but more can be done. on everyones part. I dont understand your response.
no they havent. if it was, we would all be using it. I agree this administration should be doing more but if the technology was readily available, the government cant stop it from being mass produced. its called capitalism
Not when policy is driven by corporations...or for that matter where all the lobbying money comes from....people are ignorant to think better technology does not exist yet.....but when your pockets are being lined with heap upon heap of oil money the incentive to promote better technology would seem somewhat less attractive.....
the technology might exsist in some form but its not ready to be massly produced in vechilces and not to mention having gas stations equipt with hydrogen pumps
Right. Free market economics is really a series of cause-and-effects. If A happens, then B will happen. The problem is that the market is flawed. The market does not create national defense, public schools or any incentive to curb pollution and not have eight year olds working 80 hour weeks. Economics does not account for the environment. It is essentially a non factor. As resources start to get depleted, it will account for that (i.e. oil), but not for air and water pollution. The government intervenes when the market fails. People may disagree on when it fails, but I happen to think that the complete lack of adjustment for the environmental effects of what we do is a market failure. Therefore, I think it is the government's role to intervene and help us be more environmentally conscious.
the governments job is to inform the public. for example; the government tells you that you have one gallon of water left. it is not the governments place to regulate how much of that water you drink and how often. if this were the case; the government would have to limit the number of miles you drive; the hours you're allowed to use electricty; etc. or maybe limit the amount of gas a person can buy per month. that's why the government cannot step in. you've been told for over 30 years now what you're doing to the enviornment yet few people listen. if you want government intervention it would be in the form of laws allowing 1 car per family and only 30 gallons of gas per week or month. the use of electricity a couple hours in the morning and a couple at night. the government already pays both public and businesses to use alternative energy. that's why i asked: what more do you want. throw me a few ideas and i'll be happy to pass them on to the senate.
awesome post. i think the trend of this 'lack of self responsibility', and 'dumb and happy', and 'life wasted' might be fading away..at least it should. Maybe we could reward those who choose not to drive to 'McDOnald's ' and choose not to water there stupid lawns' a reward system. somehow
How about signing the Kyoto Treaty for starters. Yeah, great starting point. Stop trying to drill for oil in the Arctic, enforce corps to follow strict rules for emission standards.
And you, who supposedly says that you're evading paying taxes and living under a false identity, are hardly someone to be passing anything onto the Senate. In fact, your viewpoint doesn't mean much to me.
then why respond? just ignore me. it seems to me that drilling for oil is private enterprise. if the people conserved and didn't need more oil; there would be no need to find more.
show me where i said i evaded taxes. i don't pay taxes because i use every legal loophole so i don't have to. my corporations pay more in taxes in a month than 95% of the population earns in a year. so you're sucking off my teat. when i left public office i retained my contacts and have have a direct line to lawmakers so i will pass on any reasonable ideas.
and you're right. if we're running out of a resource you're not suppose to use it up faster. if you don't want the government in your back pocket telling you how to live; then live responsably. it's YOUR world. treat it that way.
shocking. leagal loophole. sounds like your a legal asshole
just well educated.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=215198&page=4
"i can understand not finding someone in vast wilderness. i live in a small town in the mountians and the government has been looking for me for 9 years now. as long as i don't pay taxes they never will find me. becoming invisable is easy. "
And to Quote Cosmo...which you didn't respond to...
You didn't say anything about the suggestion of signing the KYOTO TREATY!
And new emission standards for corporations. I can think of more, give me time...:)
clearly you need an english lesson. i don't pay taxes because i'm not required to by law. my corporations pay taxes but i personally don't pay taxes and don't file returns. the government isn't looking for me because of taxes. basically; they are not looking for me; they don't know who they're looking for. thus my point that a person can become invisible even if that person is in plain site.
Obviously there's more going on than you're telling us. The gov't is after you, you've changed your identity, won't pay taxes, live in the middle of nowhere using solar power, a former politician of some kind, and corp owner...Yep, A big-time criminal we have here. You can't hide forever, you know! Anyone from the IRS on this board? Look this one up!
wow; you can really build a story without having any facts.