For the record, if alcohol were currently illegal, I would not support legalizing it.
So all of the misconstruing was about misconstruing. It was not about my opinion which I stand behind. And once posters began to misconstrue my argument, and then began blaming me for their own mistake and calling me names like "arrogant" or "passive-aggressive", I realize there is no kind of fair ground for discussion. So I continued on with posting facts and dodging the dysfunctioning posts.
It's also dysfunctional to engage with people who are openly and willfully insulting you and blaming you for their own errors. So, I was left little choice but to allow those who partook of misunderstanding, judgment and blame to accept their own consequences of blindness and ignorance.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
For the record, if alcohol were currently illegal, I would not support legalizing it.
Keeping or making it illegal only increases the funding of organized crime and gangs.
People are going to do what they want to do one way or the other.
It seems to be a concept the government misses entirely (especially the conservatives)
Where one fails (goes to jail) another will gladly step into his place.
Sounds just like creating and fighting terrorism actually. Which is also another huge failure.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
For the record, if alcohol were currently illegal, I would not support legalizing it.
So all of the misconstruing was about misconstruing. It was not about my opinion which I stand behind. And once posters began to misconstrue my argument, and then began blaming me for their own mistake and calling me names like "arrogant" or "passive-aggressive", I realize there is no kind of fair ground for discussion. So I continued on with posting facts and dodging the dysfunctioning posts.
It's also dysfunctional to engage with people who are openly and willfully insulting you and blaming you for their own errors. So, I was left little choice but to allow those who partook of misunderstanding, judgment and blame to accept their own consequences of blindness and ignorance.
your situation reminds me very much of the last time i had the discussion about legalizing weed.
my argument was that if weed is "illegal" it's not such a big issue, nor is it anything to even argue about. cause from what it's like we're all perfectly fine with having weed illegalized. so the other dude misunderstood me completely and thought that i was for "illegalizing" weed, which wasn't the situation at all. i was simply saying that legalizing weed isn't so important and nothing worth fighting for.... and suggested that he/she fight for a better cause.
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
Keeping or making it illegal only increases the funding of organized crime and gangs.
People are going to do what they want to do one way or the other.
It seems to be a concept the government misses entirely (especially the conservatives)
Where one fails (goes to jail) another will gladly step into his place.
Sounds just like creating and fighting terrorism actually. Which is also another huge failure.
I'm not responsible for crime and gangs. I'm responsible for what I do and I'm responsible for the intent I have behind it, because that's what I have control over. I take that very seriously. I don't accept the consequences for the behaviours of others because it's not mine to accept.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I'm not responsible for crime and gangs. I'm responsible for what I do and I'm responsible for the intent I have behind it, because that's what I have control over. I take that very seriously. I don't accept the consequences for the behaviours of others because it's not mine to accept.
to help clean up the neighborhood, back in the day.
I'm probably going to stop voting, too, anyway, until a system comes along that I can support.
yes, that'll help! :rolleyes:
of course...certainly a choice though.
Bu2...as i said, i really don't indulge often at all...but i think i would enjoy sharing a toke with you. i've smoked with a few jammers i've met here...and it's always a good time, and just adds to a nice evening, a 'bonding' friendship. hehe.
Bu2...as i said, i really don't indulge often at all...but i think i would enjoy sharing a toke with you. i've smoked with a few jammers i've met here...and it's always a good time, and just adds to a nice evening, a 'bonding' friendship. hehe.
Did I mention that I enjoy spankings?
Next time you're in NY, d2d, feel free to look me up....and hook me up.
soulsinging, kindly show me where I said marijuana should be illegal.
If I'm correct, I believe that I said I don't support legalizing it. That's very different than saying it should be illegal. Number one, it's different because I'm talking about my personal view and what I will or will not support. Objectively, I don't care if it becomes legal. There is a big difference between my opinion, and what I believe should be imposed on others. I'm talking about my own choice and that I cannot make a choice to condone something that I don't condone--therefore I cannot personally support legalization. And therefore, given you now know the details, you can see how the whole alcohol argument doesn't apply to me. What I am specifically against--and which I've said over and over--is supporting other people doing damage to themselves. I'm concerned with my personal decision and what that means to me. I'm not concerned with laws, and legislature--only that I do not condone something I cannot condone for ethical purposes.
I don't necessarily think it should be illegal. That's the problem with putting words in people's mouths. I'm very concise about what I do say. The minute you turn it around and put it in a different context, your argument becomes about what you've misconstrued, rather than what I've said.
angelica,
i understand your point of view on this and i agree with it in principle, but i think are reasons that make it irrelevant in this case. have you not considered what our nation's drug laws do to people? how lives are disrupted when they don't deserve to be? how the laws are used to target the underclasses to suck them into the privatized prison-labor system? do i need to research for examples of my charges? i'd be happy to do so.
now, i can understand why some drugs should be illegal to sell - i am referring to drugs manufactured in labs - heroin, crack cocaine, ecstasy, LSD (probably) and plain old coke (lesser punishment for that). but drugs that are naturally grown - part of our frickin' ecosystem - have been proven to have worth, and do no harm.
i can understand why, if you're not a pot smoker, that you would not be motivated to change the drugs laws, either to decriminalize or legalize. knowing the benefits of marijuana, i am motivated to change the laws. and i hope i still would be if i didn't know those benefits. i hope that simply knowing what prohibition does to people - how it disrupts lives - would be enough. no matter who you are, it may disrupt the life of someone you know, who may be important in your life, whether you smoke or not.
angelica, would you not at least vote for a referendum to legalize or decriminalize marijuana and/or other natual drugs? we may have an initiative to decriminalize marijuana in massachusetts on the 2008 ballot. you don't live here, but if you did, i know you wouldn't send fellow jammers to prison for smoking pot by voting no!! so you don't have to collect signatures - there are plenty of stoner foot soldiers ready to do that. we're very motivated when it comes to our causes! seriously though... the pot smokers i know are the most motivated people i know.... because they were motivated about Life before they started smoking pot. Shakespeare smoked pot for the love of Jove. it can be used solely as a escape too and that is not a bad thing from time to time!
Next time you're in NY, d2d, feel free to look me up....and hook me up.
:eek:
that really ain't my thang....especially with other ladies.
i LIVE in NY, baby....work in NYC....so...thereya go!
ahhhhhhhhhh Bu and dream indulging their maladaptive sides in NYC...tis a beautiful thing! hahaha. btw - i have no hook-ups, ha, as i isad, i rarely indulge...someone else always hooks ME up! mj...the ultimate bonding experience.
i understand your point of view on this and i agree with it in principle, but i think are reasons that make it irrelevant in this case. have you not considered what our nation's drug laws do to people? how lives are disrupted when they don't deserve to be? how the laws are used to target the underclasses to suck them into the privatized prison-labor system? do i need to research for examples of my charges? i'd be happy to do so.
now, i can understand why some drugs should be illegal to sell - i am referring to drugs manufactured in labs - heroin, crack cocaine, ecstasy, LSD (probably) and plain old coke (lesser punishment for that). but drugs that are naturally grown - part of our frickin' ecosystem - have been proven to have worth, and do no harm.
i can understand why, if you're not a pot smoker, that you would not be motivated to change the drugs laws, either to decriminalize or legalize. knowing the benefits of marijuana, i am motivated to change the laws. and i hope i still would be if i didn't know those benefits. i hope that simply knowing what prohibition does to people - how it disrupts lives - would be enough. no matter who you are, it may disrupt the life of someone you know, who may be important in your life, whether you smoke or not.
angelica, would you not at least vote for a referendum to legalize or decriminalize marijuana and/or other natual drugs? we may have an initiative to decriminalize marijuana in massachusetts on the 2008 ballot. you don't live here, but if you did, i know you wouldn't send fellow jammers to prison for smoking pot by voting no!! so you don't have to collect signatures - there are plenty of stoner foot soldiers ready to do that. we're very motivated when it comes to our causes! seriously though... the pot smokers i know are the most motivated people i know.... because they were motivated about Life before they started smoking pot. Shakespeare smoked pot for the love of Jove. it can be used solely as a escape too and that is not a bad thing from time to time!
In terms of "ideally", things will change. People will evolve. At this point, however, for example, my position is my position. As is the nearest "conservative's" position. I completely trust life, and I have the utmost respect for the purpose of my being who I am, including my view, and for the view of the conservative person next to me, as well as your own. I have the utmost respect and trust in life and for its natural inherent balance, including that we all see differently for exact purposes that are what IS. I can live with that. Not only that, but I embrace it, and honour it.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
In terms of "ideally", things will change. People will evolve. At this point, however, for example, my position is my position. As is the nearest "conservative's" position. I completely trust life, and I have the utmost respect for the purpose of my being who I am, including my view, and for the view of the conservative person next to me, as well as your own. I have the utmost respect and trust in life and for its natural inherent balance, including that we all see differently for exact purposes that are what IS. I can live with that. Not only that, but I embrace it, and honour it.
Let us burn one from end to end,
And pass it over to me my friend.
Burn it long, we'll burn it slow,
To light me up before I go.
If you don't like my fire, then don't come around,
'cause I'm gonna burn one down.
Yes, I'm gonna burn one down.
My choice is what I choose to do,
And if I'm causing no harm, it shouldn't bother you.
Your choice is who you choose to be,
And if you're causin' no harm, then you're alright with me.
If you don't like my fire, then don't come around,
'cause I'm gonna burn one down.
Yes, I'm gonna burn one down.
Herb the gift from the earth,
And what's from the earth is of the greatest worth.
So before you knock it try it first,
Oh, you'll see it's a blessing and not a curse.
If you don't like my fire, then don't come around,
'cause I'm gonna burn one down.
Yes, I'm gonna burn one, oohhh.
Let us burn one from end to end,
And pass it over to me my friend.
Burn it long, we'll burn it slow,
To light me up before I go.
If you don't like my fire, then don't come around,
'cause I'm gonna burn one down.
Yes, I'm gonna burn one down.
My choice is what I choose to do,
And if I'm causing no harm, it shouldn't bother you.
Your choice is who you choose to be,
And if you're causin' no harm, then you're alright with me.
If you don't like my fire, then don't come around,
'cause I'm gonna burn one down.
Yes, I'm gonna burn one down.
Herb the gift from the earth,
And what's from the earth is of the greatest worth.
So before you knock it try it first,
Oh, you'll see it's a blessing and not a curse.
If you don't like my fire, then don't come around,
'cause I'm gonna burn one down.
Yes, I'm gonna burn one, oohhh.
nice ben reference!
Do you see the way that tree bends?
Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
A lesson to be applied.
Best night of my life. . .
Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Look up how to make cannabutter (it's not difficult), then use it as you would in any recipe!
if i wanted to, or knew where to look...i'd not have asked.
anyway, i don't really cook...so more curiosity than anything, although something fun/easy...perhaps. beside, have to be careful due to hubby's line of work...random-drug testing...so none for him!
if i wanted to, or knew where to look...i'd not have asked.
anyway, i don't really cook...so more curiosity than anything, although something fun/easy...perhaps. beside, have to be careful due to hubby's line of work...random-drug testing...so none for him!
google is usually a good place to start
I'd do it for you, but I don't want that search in my IE history at work
*just* watched it.....really worth a view!
thanks for the link, glad i took the time to watch, and yes....really drives hom some important points....and much of what many have been saying all along.
few key points:
-mj overall LESS dangerous/harmful than many LEGAL substances.
-1 in 10,000 habitual mj users have any sort of psychotic reaction...which is considered an extremely low rate of concern/issue.
of course there were others...but those 2 really stood out for me.
btw - drowned out...i too was at work when i asked...so yea...no mj/google searches for me then! besides, i was mnerely curious if anyone here had good recipes. after viewing the video kenny linked...there's a grandmum in england with a whole slew of cannibus recipes!
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Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
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Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
So all of the misconstruing was about misconstruing. It was not about my opinion which I stand behind. And once posters began to misconstrue my argument, and then began blaming me for their own mistake and calling me names like "arrogant" or "passive-aggressive", I realize there is no kind of fair ground for discussion. So I continued on with posting facts and dodging the dysfunctioning posts.
It's also dysfunctional to engage with people who are openly and willfully insulting you and blaming you for their own errors. So, I was left little choice but to allow those who partook of misunderstanding, judgment and blame to accept their own consequences of blindness and ignorance.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
ahaahaaaa...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
(")_(")
Keeping or making it illegal only increases the funding of organized crime and gangs.
People are going to do what they want to do one way or the other.
It seems to be a concept the government misses entirely (especially the conservatives)
Where one fails (goes to jail) another will gladly step into his place.
Sounds just like creating and fighting terrorism actually. Which is also another huge failure.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
my argument was that if weed is "illegal" it's not such a big issue, nor is it anything to even argue about. cause from what it's like we're all perfectly fine with having weed illegalized. so the other dude misunderstood me completely and thought that i was for "illegalizing" weed, which wasn't the situation at all. i was simply saying that legalizing weed isn't so important and nothing worth fighting for.... and suggested that he/she fight for a better cause.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
to help clean up the neighborhood, back in the day.
yes, that'll help! :rolleyes:
of course...certainly a choice though.
Bu2...as i said, i really don't indulge often at all...but i think i would enjoy sharing a toke with you.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Did I mention that I enjoy spankings?
Next time you're in NY, d2d, feel free to look me up....and hook me up.
angelica,
i understand your point of view on this and i agree with it in principle, but i think are reasons that make it irrelevant in this case. have you not considered what our nation's drug laws do to people? how lives are disrupted when they don't deserve to be? how the laws are used to target the underclasses to suck them into the privatized prison-labor system? do i need to research for examples of my charges? i'd be happy to do so.
now, i can understand why some drugs should be illegal to sell - i am referring to drugs manufactured in labs - heroin, crack cocaine, ecstasy, LSD (probably) and plain old coke (lesser punishment for that). but drugs that are naturally grown - part of our frickin' ecosystem - have been proven to have worth, and do no harm.
i can understand why, if you're not a pot smoker, that you would not be motivated to change the drugs laws, either to decriminalize or legalize. knowing the benefits of marijuana, i am motivated to change the laws. and i hope i still would be if i didn't know those benefits. i hope that simply knowing what prohibition does to people - how it disrupts lives - would be enough. no matter who you are, it may disrupt the life of someone you know, who may be important in your life, whether you smoke or not.
angelica, would you not at least vote for a referendum to legalize or decriminalize marijuana and/or other natual drugs? we may have an initiative to decriminalize marijuana in massachusetts on the 2008 ballot. you don't live here, but if you did, i know you wouldn't send fellow jammers to prison for smoking pot by voting no!! so you don't have to collect signatures - there are plenty of stoner foot soldiers ready to do that. we're very motivated when it comes to our causes!
:eek:
that really ain't my thang....especially with other ladies.
i LIVE in NY, baby....work in NYC....so...thereya go!
ahhhhhhhhhh Bu and dream indulging their maladaptive sides in NYC...tis a beautiful thing! hahaha. btw - i have no hook-ups, ha, as i isad, i rarely indulge...someone else always hooks ME up!
and kenny...bravo!
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
And next time you're in Westchester, I will gladly hook YOU up, if I'm lucky enough to be hooked up myself.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
this is exactly what i was wondering and have been from the beginning. thanks for answering.
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Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Are you SURE you're don't get high?
for you, Bu . . .
Burn One Down
Ben Harper
Let us burn one from end to end,
And pass it over to me my friend.
Burn it long, we'll burn it slow,
To light me up before I go.
If you don't like my fire, then don't come around,
'cause I'm gonna burn one down.
Yes, I'm gonna burn one down.
My choice is what I choose to do,
And if I'm causing no harm, it shouldn't bother you.
Your choice is who you choose to be,
And if you're causin' no harm, then you're alright with me.
If you don't like my fire, then don't come around,
'cause I'm gonna burn one down.
Yes, I'm gonna burn one down.
Herb the gift from the earth,
And what's from the earth is of the greatest worth.
So before you knock it try it first,
Oh, you'll see it's a blessing and not a curse.
If you don't like my fire, then don't come around,
'cause I'm gonna burn one down.
Yes, I'm gonna burn one, oohhh.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Does it inspire?
Leaning out to catch the sun's rays...
A lesson to be applied.
Best night of my life. . .
Noblesville, IN 06-22-03.
myspace.com/justonemorebottle
Stoned in Suburbia (2005)
scroll down and click on "Full Documentary [stage6]"
Coughing...resin...
lungs....It's not healthy....smoking is death.
Legalization would mean allowing quantity and cooking with it. Then you get Omega 3's and a damn good buzz (long... 4 + hours)
That's much different altogether.
natural.
Eating.....natural...
government....@$@$!...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
thanks for the link!
i'm at work so can't view/open now...but i will deinitely check it out from home.
btw - everyone keeps mentioning drinking/cooking with mj.....hmmmmmmm....how about some tips/recipes? very interested!
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Look up how to make cannabutter (it's not difficult), then use it as you would in any recipe!
if i wanted to, or knew where to look...i'd not have asked.
anyway, i don't really cook...so more curiosity than anything, although something fun/easy...perhaps. beside, have to be careful due to hubby's line of work...random-drug testing...so none for him!
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
I'd do it for you, but I don't want that search in my IE history at work
*just* watched it.....really worth a view!
thanks for the link, glad i took the time to watch, and yes....really drives hom some important points....and much of what many have been saying all along.
few key points:
-mj overall LESS dangerous/harmful than many LEGAL substances.
-1 in 10,000 habitual mj users have any sort of psychotic reaction...which is considered an extremely low rate of concern/issue.
of course there were others...but those 2 really stood out for me.
btw - drowned out...i too was at work when i asked...so yea...no mj/google searches for me then!
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow