Charles Krauthammer is jealous that Barack Obama is not a Republican. How they yearn for a candidate as energetic and compelling as Obama. This is a sad attempt of trying to paint Obama as something that he is not.
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Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
is there a single president/politician/anyone in the spotlight that does not have a flaw?
who is this perfect president that Obama should be like? People say "He isn't fit" to be president. That could probably be said about every single president the US has ever had if we focus on the one flaw that a person had. whether it impacted presidential decisions or not, everyone has a history and a different story.
i guess any politician that goes to any foreign country has to think twice on whether or not he/she earned it or not. even though history is history.
I'm personally not comfortable with people minimizing the effect of psychiatric disorders in any way, although it's commonly done.
well, if you were serious...then that's very noble...
and now you can take my comment serious:
the exact same applies for depression...that's why I jokingly brought it up to illustrate that you'd be busy all day to give the (psychological) definition of (sometimes serious) words that are obviously refered to in a totally absurd (=non serious) context like here...
dunno if I have to really love myself to see it that way...gosh...
m.
Godwin's Law:
"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
well, if you were serious...then that's very noble...
and now you can take my comment serious:
the exact same applies for depression...that's why I jokingly brought it up to illustrate that you'd be busy all day to give the (psychological) definition of (sometimes serious) words that are obviously refered to in a totally absurd (=non serious) context like here...
dunno if I have to really love myself to see it that way...gosh...
m.
I've not ever heard a person refer to themselves as depressed, without feeling signs of depression. Ever.
It's not the same thing in my mind at all.
I don't expect you to get my perspective, or that of others here that you oppose. I doesn't make them any less valid.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I've not ever heard a person refer to themselves as depressed, without feeling signs of depression. Ever.
It's not the same thing in my mind at all.
I don't expect you to get my perspective, or that of others here that you oppose. I doesn't make them any less valid.
man, it's depressing to read through this thread;)
I read/hear that a lot...
I understand your perspective...and it's important to clarify words...but if you were serious, this means you thought I was really serious...which is a thing you really had to try in the context of this thread...and I think that's what you have to do to understand words...see them in a context...
it's like going to the sauna (dressed) bringing a book and pointing out the moral hazards of displaying yourself in the nude to others to the people who are enjoying themselves there...
m.
Godwin's Law:
"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
I understand your perspective...and it's important to clarify words...but if you were serious, this means you thought I was really serious...which is a thing you really had to try in the context of this thread...and I think that's what you have to do to understand words...see them in a context...
I saw the context alright which is why I said something. It sounds like it is you who doesn't get my own context. For me that's okay, since my case stands.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
*bold type on 'excessive' added by me, otherwise quoted as posted.
so evidently, a wee bit of narcissism is a-ok, even in the psych community. think all is safe here now.
My understanding is that from infanthood, we're all born with narcissistic needs, which means we need someone to mirror to us all our wonderful traits, which then creates people who are self-loving and healthy. Some of this mirroring takes place when our caregivers gaze lovingly into our eyes when we are babies. It's also my understanding that some/many of us don't get this mirroring of our wonderful traits, but rather are ignored, neglected, shamed, criticized, etc. In general, if parents have not had their own narcisstic needs met, they are not able to pass that onto their children.
Ultimately, if these needs are not met in healthy ways, they manifest on a scale of increasing intensity in unhealthy ways, until reaching a level of disorder as categorized by the psychiatric community.
Self-love, on the other hand is healthy. And self-love, or actions such as affirmations, or surrounding one's self with support can help us meet our narcissistic needs in healthy ways.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Self-love, on the other hand is healthy. And self-love, or actions such as affirmations, or surrounding one's self with support can help us meet our narcissistic needs in healthy ways.
Self-love with either hand is healthy.
Somebody stop me!
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
angelica, believe me...i don't need it explained, nor do i think anyone else here needs it either. it's called humor. i 'get' that you don't like to joke about such things, but i do. this thread is completely humorous to me...particularly the title, which i know stems from the article with the same title....but THAT is complete abuse of the word 'narcissist' imho, so thus it makes sense to joke about it as the actual subject deserves. that's all.
man, it's depressing to read through this thread;)
I don't take issue with this at all because the word is being used in the correct context. It can be depressing to read through a thread. Just like politicians can come off as narcissitic (along with average people).
If your question is aren't I then very busy trying to change people's views by clarifying words...no, I'm not. I generally don't bother. People generally like to cling to their ignorance and insensitivity, so I tend to pick my battles and clarify rarely, Such as in this thread.
I know evolution continues on in it's perfect time, with it's perfect consequences and therefore I'm enabled to proceed harmoniously. There are natural life consequences for our actions at every stage of our development for perfect reasons.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
this finally brought the original quality back in this thread;)
thanks be to you!!:)
angelica,
look, I know what narcisism means...I even read a book about it once...
if someone needs to be called out here it's the writer of this hatepiece in the OP...he uses narcisism while he means vanity at best, only to make a more sensationalist headline. Everybody who (sorryly) read this article knew he didn't mean the actual disorder but more some sort of overblown and unjustified self-esteem...turns out all the hullabaloo was just hot air, since Obama doesn't do what he was accused to be doing...
My only point to even comment on this thread was WHO CARES where the guy is talking...people should be caring at what he's saying...at least that's what I think
to (seriously) infere from my statements that I "justify" narcisism or "don't care" about people with psychological problems is very very far fetched to say the least...I wouldn't even have answered your post if you hadn't quoted me...I took it jokingly that way. If you want to point out the wrong use of words, quote that dumb "article"...
and I really have no idea what all this has to do with evolution...but I guess I won't understand anyway...
m.
Godwin's Law:
"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
reading this thread reminds me of Star Trek The Next Generation when people would have to try to explain a joke to Data but in the end it was a waste of time.
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and W who just about claims to have God on speed dial is not a narcicist?!?
Asbury Park '21; MSG '22; Camden '22
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
who is this perfect president that Obama should be like? People say "He isn't fit" to be president. That could probably be said about every single president the US has ever had if we focus on the one flaw that a person had. whether it impacted presidential decisions or not, everyone has a history and a different story.
i guess any politician that goes to any foreign country has to think twice on whether or not he/she earned it or not. even though history is history.
well, if you were serious...then that's very noble...
and now you can take my comment serious:
the exact same applies for depression...that's why I jokingly brought it up to illustrate that you'd be busy all day to give the (psychological) definition of (sometimes serious) words that are obviously refered to in a totally absurd (=non serious) context like here...
dunno if I have to really love myself to see it that way...gosh...
m.
"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
It's not the same thing in my mind at all.
I don't expect you to get my perspective, or that of others here that you oppose. I doesn't make them any less valid.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
man, it's depressing to read through this thread;)
I read/hear that a lot...
I understand your perspective...and it's important to clarify words...but if you were serious, this means you thought I was really serious...which is a thing you really had to try in the context of this thread...and I think that's what you have to do to understand words...see them in a context...
it's like going to the sauna (dressed) bringing a book and pointing out the moral hazards of displaying yourself in the nude to others to the people who are enjoying themselves there...
m.
"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
*bold type on 'excessive' added by me, otherwise quoted as posted.
so evidently, a wee bit of narcissism is a-ok, even in the psych community.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Ultimately, if these needs are not met in healthy ways, they manifest on a scale of increasing intensity in unhealthy ways, until reaching a level of disorder as categorized by the psychiatric community.
Self-love, on the other hand is healthy. And self-love, or actions such as affirmations, or surrounding one's self with support can help us meet our narcissistic needs in healthy ways.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Somebody stop me!
It's healthy until it crosses into something else...........
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
and i still find it funny...
c'est la vie!
anyhooo...the fun is gone, now.....:p
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
If your question is aren't I then very busy trying to change people's views by clarifying words...no, I'm not. I generally don't bother. People generally like to cling to their ignorance and insensitivity, so I tend to pick my battles and clarify rarely, Such as in this thread.
I know evolution continues on in it's perfect time, with it's perfect consequences and therefore I'm enabled to proceed harmoniously. There are natural life consequences for our actions at every stage of our development for perfect reasons.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
this finally brought the original quality back in this thread;)
thanks be to you!!:)
angelica,
look, I know what narcisism means...I even read a book about it once...
if someone needs to be called out here it's the writer of this hatepiece in the OP...he uses narcisism while he means vanity at best, only to make a more sensationalist headline. Everybody who (sorryly) read this article knew he didn't mean the actual disorder but more some sort of overblown and unjustified self-esteem...turns out all the hullabaloo was just hot air, since Obama doesn't do what he was accused to be doing...
My only point to even comment on this thread was WHO CARES where the guy is talking...people should be caring at what he's saying...at least that's what I think
to (seriously) infere from my statements that I "justify" narcisism or "don't care" about people with psychological problems is very very far fetched to say the least...I wouldn't even have answered your post if you hadn't quoted me...I took it jokingly that way. If you want to point out the wrong use of words, quote that dumb "article"...
and I really have no idea what all this has to do with evolution...but I guess I won't understand anyway...
m.
"As an internet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."