Whats so special about Obama?

DPrival78

google "obama cfr" and read away. read up on the cfr, their members, and their agenda.

for fun you can also google "hillary cfr", "guiliani cfr", "mccain cfr", "romney cfr".. well basically every candidate - except ron paul.

i know a lot of people like obama. he's on the young side, he's very charismatic, and he makes you feel warm and fuzzy when he sings his song about "change". but when it comes down to it, and you look beneath all that stuff, he's just another establishment puppet.

MrBrian

He's black, that's whats special about him. Nothing else, oh yeah, He speaks sorta well. well better than the others.

I mean policy wise, he is just so close to the others, why can't people see it? I bet if he was white, most obama supporters here would not even notice him bcoz he would be just like all the others, oh yeah...excpect he speaks sorta well.

Most Americans are so easily sold.

ledvedderman

DPrival78 wrote:

google "obama cfr" and read away. read up on the cfr, their members, and their agenda.

for fun you can also google "hillary cfr", "guiliani cfr", "mccain cfr", "romney cfr".. well basically every candidate - except ron paul.

i know a lot of people like obama. he's on the young side, he's very charismatic, and he makes you feel warm and fuzzy when he sings his song about "change". but when it comes down to it, and you look beneath all that stuff, he's just another establishment puppet.

Que?

http://www.cfr.org/bios/13303/ron_paul.html

RolandTD20Kdrummer

ledvedderman wrote:

So you learn about a candidate and you've got the whole political system/government figured out? Get over yourself.

Actually no it's...you need to learn about your candidate. I already have it figured out. You got it a bit mixed up there.

If you like Obama and support more war just have the balls to come out and say it. :P

RolandTD20Kdrummer

DPrival78 wrote:

google "obama cfr" and read away. read up on the cfr, their members, and their agenda.

for fun you can also google "hillary cfr", "guiliani cfr", "mccain cfr", "romney cfr".. well basically every candidate - except ron paul.

i know a lot of people like obama. he's on the young side, he's very charismatic, and he makes you feel warm and fuzzy when he sings his song about "change". but when it comes down to it, and you look beneath all that stuff, he's just another establishment puppet.

Every candidate except Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, and Mike Gravel actually.

The same three that are being marginalized by the media.

Striking coincidence that is.

blackredyellow

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Every candidate except Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, and Mike Gravel actually.

The same three that are being marginalized by the media.

Striking coincidence that is.

Yup, it's the media's fault for not trumpeting a candidate that has no chance in hell to get elected...

The media likes front-runners with everything... no different with politics.

PEPPER wrote:

How do you figure?

I pray a dem does not get into office. I pay enough already in taxes and if one of those libs get in I might as well throw my money out the window

That's crap... In 8 years of a republican administration, I got that rebate check for like $200 way back when.... Them GOP'ers are really looking out for me with taxes.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

blackredyellow wrote:

Yup, it's the media's fault for not trumpeting a candidate that has no chance in hell to get elected...

The media likes front-runners with everything... no different with politics.

Trumpeting? I'm just talking fairness here. There's a definite media bias towards the above mentioned.

g under p

.....Other than he's black, NOTHING!

Peace

ledvedderman

blackredyellow wrote:

The media likes front-runners with everything... no different with politics.

I agree with this 100% If you're a baseball fan of any team besides the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, or Mets you are screwed when it comes to national coverage. Why do they get the most publicity? Big markets. It sucks but that is the way it is.

hrd2imgn

His name does not end in either BUSH or CLINTON

prism

DPrival78 wrote:

google "obama cfr" and read away. read up on the cfr, their members, and their agenda.

for fun you can also google "hillary cfr", "guiliani cfr", "mccain cfr", "romney cfr".. well basically every candidate - except ron paul.

i know a lot of people like obama. he's on the young side, he's very charismatic, and he makes you feel warm and fuzzy when he sings his song about "change". but when it comes down to it, and you look beneath all that stuff, he's just another establishment puppet.

LOL....I did in fact google "Obama cfr" and guess what i found? all I found to say that he was a member of the cfr were blogs from Ron Paul supporters! and of course the cfr sight which gives descriptions of ALL of the candidates including Ron Paul


however when i googled "Ron Paul cfr" I did find some commentary talking about some talking head that was a memeber of the cfr and it gave links to the cfr membership lists for '04 thru' 07. which lead me to google "membership list cfr" and guess who's name is NOT on any of the CFR membership list? that's right, Barack Obama, nor his wife Michelle, nor anyone with the last name Obama.

http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/CFRMembers.html#O

I'm bookmarking that list for everytime the Paultards on this board repeatedly tries to make the claim that Obama is a member of the CFR

the Paultards also should wrap around their brains that if a candidate gives a speech at a meeting of "Kindergarten Teachers of New England" it doesn't make that candidate a Kindergarten Teacher from New England. nor are they beholden to abide by the political agenda of the "Kindergarten Teachers of New England" or that of any group or organization that they give a speech to.
Jesus H. Christ I shouldn't even have to be explaining any of this

prism

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Every candidate except Dennis Kucinich, Ron Paul, and Mike Gravel actually.

The same three that are being marginalized by the media.

Striking coincidence that is.

kindly read post #34 above and stop with the lies already

RolandTD20Kdrummer

prism wrote:

kindly read post #34 above and stop with the lies already

No offense, but your google skills suck. I already posted this in response to you in another Obama thread

Barack:
http://www.cfr.org/bios/11603/barack_obama.html

Scroll down for Michelle:
http://www.thechicagocouncil.org/chicago_council_board_directors.php

Lies? If you want lies just tune into the next Obama speech. You'll get a good dose of em.

You need to understand the system better from a top down approach.

If you're against more war and want to bring the troops home, honestly, don't vote for Obama. He's not about stopping that situation any time soon.

blackredyellow

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

No offense, but your google skills suck. I already posted this in response to you in another Obama thread

Barack:
http://www.cfr.org/bios/11603/barack_obama.html

Scroll down for Michelle:
http://www.thechicagocouncil.org/chicago_council_board_directors.php

Lies? If you want lies just tune into the next Obama speech. You'll get a good dose of em.

You need to understand the system better from a top down approach.

If you're against more war and want to bring the troops home, honestly, don't vote for Obama. He's not about stopping that situation any time soon.

Ron Paul has a write up to on the CFR site as well... does that mean he is member?
http://www.cfr.org/bios/13303/ron_paul.html

And what does Michelle Obama being a member of the The Chicago Council on Global Affairs have anything to do with the CFR? Their names are similar?

prism

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

No offense, but your google skills suck. I already posted this in response to you in another Obama thread

Barack:
http://www.cfr.org/bios/11603/barack_obama.html

Scroll down for Michelle:
http://www.thechicagocouncil.org/chicago_council_board_directors.php

Lies? If you want lies just tune into the next Obama speech. You'll get a good dose of em.

You need to understand the system better from a top down approach.

If you're against more war and want to bring the troops home, honestly, don't vote for Obama. He's not about stopping that situation any time soon.

and this is how i responded to your pitiful attempts at making smears:

Michelle Obama
Vice President for Community and External Affairs, The University of Chicago Medical Center
wow could this have anything to do with her and her husband in regards to the work they've done to bring more more awareness and trying to get funding/donations for affordable medications for those suffering in the AIDS crisis in Africa? nah...i'm sure it must be because the Obamas are in cahoots with Dr. Evil to take over and rule the world...afterall it is The Chicago Council on GLOBAL Affairs....haha, your paranoia is silly.

using your logic then it must be also be widely known that Ron Paul is a member of the CFR http://www.cfr.org/bios/13303/ron_paul.html#7 Oh Nos!!!

once again show some proof that Obama is a member. just because the CFR website gives a description of all the Presidental candidates and where they stand on a few issues doesn't make that candidate a member.

If you're against more war and want to bring the troops home, honestly, don't vote for Obama. He's not about stopping that situation any time soon

I guess you know someone that would have the troops home in a few days? :rolleyes:

from Obama's site:

Bring Our Troops Home: Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats.


as for my google skills. there's noting wrong with them. you just don't like the truth of what I found or what anyone can find if they google "Obama cfr" or "Ron Paul cfr" or "membership list cfr" so you attack me (the messenger) rather than the truth of what i found...

you do realize what that makes you look like?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

prism wrote:

and this is how i responded to your pitiful attempts at making smears:

Michelle Obama
Vice President for Community and External Affairs, The University of Chicago Medical Center
wow could this have anything to do with her and her husband in regards to the work they've done to bring more more awareness and trying to get funding/donations for affordable medications for those suffering in the AIDS crisis in Africa? nah...i'm sure it must be because the Obamas are in cahoots with Dr. Evil to take over and rule the world...afterall it is The Chicago Council on GLOBAL Affairs....haha, your paranoia is silly.

using your logic then it must be also be widely known that Ron Paul is a member of the CFR http://www.cfr.org/bios/13303/ron_paul.html#7 Oh Nos!!!

once again show some proof that Obama is a member. just because the CFR website gives a description of all the Presidental candidates and where they stand on a few issues doesn't make that candidate a member.



I guess you know someone that would have the troops home in a few days? :rolleyes:

from Obama's site:

Bring Our Troops Home: Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats.


as for my google skills. there's noting wrong with them. you just don't like the truth of what I found or what anyone can find if they google "Obama cfr" or "Ron Paul cfr" or "membership list cfr" so you attack me (the messenger) rather than the truth of what i found...

you do realize what that makes you look like?

A lot of links have been pulled. Interesting. His wife isa member of the Chicago branch, regardless of what you think it's about. She's a rather high up member as well.

Here he is giving a speech at the CFR from his own website:
http://obama.senate.gov/img/051101_cfr_non_proliferation.jpg

Did you miss his AIPAC speech? It takes everything you just said and essentially tosses it in the garbage.

ledvedderman

prism wrote:

and this is how i responded to your pitiful attempts at making smears:

Michelle Obama
Vice President for Community and External Affairs, The University of Chicago Medical Center
wow could this have anything to do with her and her husband in regards to the work they've done to bring more more awareness and trying to get funding/donations for affordable medications for those suffering in the AIDS crisis in Africa? nah...i'm sure it must be because the Obamas are in cahoots with Dr. Evil to take over and rule the world...afterall it is The Chicago Council on GLOBAL Affairs....haha, your paranoia is silly.

using your logic then it must be also be widely known that Ron Paul is a member of the CFR http://www.cfr.org/bios/13303/ron_paul.html#7 Oh Nos!!!

once again show some proof that Obama is a member. just because the CFR website gives a description of all the Presidental candidates and where they stand on a few issues doesn't make that candidate a member.



I guess you know someone that would have the troops home in a few days? :rolleyes:

from Obama's site:

Bring Our Troops Home: Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats.


as for my google skills. there's noting wrong with them. you just don't like the truth of what I found or what anyone can find if they google "Obama cfr" or "Ron Paul cfr" or "membership list cfr" so you attack me (the messenger) rather than the truth of what i found...

you do realize what that makes you look like?

Dude, prism, don't you know that Roland has it ALL figured out. No proof of links or information will change his mind. If you are not voting for Ron Paul you are clueless and might as well wipe your ass with the American flag, no matter how long you have been involved or interested in politics.

Just baaaaa like a sheep and let him get whatever saisfaction he gets from his lies and slander.

The main reason I would never support Ron Paul....the Paultards make the man look like a joke. The backwards EVOL on the Revolution signs are a nice touch to the craziness. If I were the media I would take him as seriously as the 9/11 theorists who say that the news animated planes flying into the WTC to cover up the planted bombs.

Commy

ledvedderman wrote:

Dude, prism, don't you know that Roland has it ALL figured out. No proof of links or information will change his mind. If you are not voting for Ron Paul you are clueless and might as well wipe your ass with the American flag, no matter how long you have been involved or interested in politics.

Just baaaaa like a sheep and let him get whatever saisfaction he gets from his lies and slander.

The main reason I would never support Ron Paul....the Paultards make the man look like a joke. The backwards EVOL on the Revolution signs are a nice touch to the craziness. If I were the media I would take him as seriously as the 9/11 theorists who say that the news animated planes flying into the WTC to cover up the planted bombs.

fitting. ANy man with an original plan is ridiculed and ignored.


Do you know what it means to be conservative?

LikeAnOcean

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I do actually. So do a lot of people. the facts of the matter speak for themselves. Do some research on Obama and you'll quickly find out for yourself what the guy is really all about.

And what if you agree with what he is really about?.. opinions are a bitch.

LikeAnOcean

PEPPER wrote:

I hope he gets the Democrat nomination because he will be crushed by the Republicans during the election.
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You're confusing Obama with Hillary. Unlike Hillary, Obama has the ability to unite both sides. Thats why so many conservatives like him. Do some research.