Until I got to this board all I ever heard was how liberal Obama is.
Yet the few people on here are trying to lead this Obama=McCain brigrade.
I'm not buying it. He doesn't support Bush's patriot act. He has worked hard to reform it but he was defeated. Still some of his changes did make it onto the new bill so he voted for it as a sign of solidarity.
He has always been against the Iraq war but you have to vote to fund it or the Soldiers won't have ammo or food. I don't think Bush would send them home just because the Senate stopped funding. He'd find a way to keep them there.
Not every American is sure they want Universal Health Care the the tax increased that would go with it. He pledges that every child will have universal coverage and to me that is a start. I like my health care plan through my job and would not want it to change to the Canadian system where it takes a month to get an appointment.
He voted to confirm Condi Rice because she was qualified for the position. It is not Senate's job to agree with the Presidents policies or cabinet members. They just need to be qualified to do whats required with the position and she clearly is qualified to do that.
He does not support war with Iran. He want to have diplomatic meetings. No other candidate has stated they would do this. All he said is that war will not be taken off of the table. WHAT A HAWK!!!
What no one seems to understand around here is that a President must work with his congress to make changes because of America's Check and Balances system. Even an extreme liberal like Nader would have to adopt some centrist polices or he would watch everyone of his bills fail to pass through congress.
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There isn't anyone really worth voting for in the presidential election. Write in someone you like, or just write in no thanks, like I will.
It's not the end of the world, of course, the country survived 8 years of Bush after all... but I don't know anyone in the running currently that I think much of. Local and state elections matter more to most peoples lives anyway or the should.
My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
Until I got to this board all I ever heard was how liberal Obama is.
Yet the few people on here are trying to lead this Obama=McCain brigrade.
I'm not buying it. He doesn't support Bush's patriot act. He has worked hard to reform it but he was defeated. Still some of his changes did make it onto the new bill so he voted for it as a sign of solidarity.
He has always been against the Iraq war but you have to vote to fund it or the Soldiers won't have ammo or food. I don't think Bush would send them home just because the Senate stopped funding. He'd find a way to keep them there.
they can vote to give the troops what they need while not voting to keep the war going for another year
Not every American is sure they want Universal Health Care the the tax increased that would go with it. He pledges that every child will have universal coverage and to me that is a start. I like my health care plan through my job and would not want it to change to the Canadian system where it takes a month to get an appointment.
most americans DO want universal health care. and obama's won't give kids universal health care coverage, just thet opportunity to have it...their parents still need to purchase it
He voted to confirm Condi Rice because she was qualified for the position. It is not Senate's job to agree with the Presidents policies or cabinet members. They just need to be qualified to do whats required with the position and she clearly is qualified to do that.
how is she 'clearly qualified'???? let's see, she was an oil exec who has a freighter named after her and her office just 'forgot' that the cia kept sending memos and calling them saying they disagreed w/ statements this administration was making , like the yellow cake claim....sorry, but if you can't remember the head of the cia telling you these things i don't think you deserve a promotion to sec of state
What no one seems to understand around here is that a President must work with his congress to make changes because of America's Check and Balances system. Even an extreme liberal like Nader would have to adopt some centrist polices or he would watch everyone of his bills fail to pass through congress.
but if nader was elected it would be b/c it's what the ppl want, so how will congress explain sticking up for corporate interests instead of theirs?
when's the last time congress actually acted as a check and balance??? seems like all they do is say one thing, get elected then act as a rubber stamp.
they were elected to end the war...they tried ONCE and gave in afterwards
they complained of FISA during elections, then they get elected and let teh law be changed so what the administration is doing isn't illegal anymore....
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
most americans DO want universal health care. and obama's won't give kids universal health care coverage, just thet opportunity to have it...their parents still need to purchase it
How do you know what most American's want? Its 50-50 at best with the health care issue. Health care should be available to anyone who can't get it thru their jobs or school. If we had nationwide health care not only would taxes go up but my coverage would be worse. Why would I want that?
how is she 'clearly qualified'???? let's see, she was an oil exec who has a freighter named after her and her office just 'forgot' that the cia kept sending memos and calling them saying they disagreed w/ statements this administration was making , like the yellow cake claim....sorry, but if you can't remember the head of the cia telling you these things i don't think you deserve a promotion to sec of state
A simple wiki search of Condi's career could help you here. Not a fan of her or her policies but she was a top educator at Stanford for 20 years. She was clearly in line for a cabinet position when Bush was "elected" president.
when's the last time congress actually acted as a check and balance??? seems like all they do is say one thing, get elected then act as a rubber stamp.
they were elected to end the war...they tried ONCE and gave in afterwards
they complained of FISA during elections, then they get elected and let teh law be changed so what the administration is doing isn't illegal anymore....
Its not like they are voting for all of Bush's policies in. I think they have both not accomplished anything because anything Bush wants they don't pass and anything they pass (like the children's health care for example) Bush vetoes. That's what happens when Congress and the President don't like each other. Think back to Clinton butting heads with Republicans in congress for 6 years. It got so bad they tried to remove him from office for receiving a BJ.
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As far as I know they just voted to keep funding the war. How is that different from what I said.
b/c they can put up to vote for specific things, they aren't just confined to voting to fund the war or not...they can pass money for what the troops need...shit, even when they vote to fund the war the troops still don't get what they need!
How do you know what most American's want? Its 50-50 at best with the health care issue. Health care should be available to anyone who can't get it thru their jobs or school. If we had nationwide health care not only would taxes go up but my coverage would be worse. Why would I want that?
polls, for one thing. taxes wouldn't need to go up if we cut wasteful spending. naders plan calls for a 3.5% payroll tax, which is less than i pay now for my shitty health insurance thru my job. an educated and healthy public are in our nation's best interests, but not corporate interests
A simple wiki search of Condi's career could help you here. Not a fan of her or her policies but she was a top educator at Stanford for 20 years. She was clearly in line for a cabinet position when Bush was "elected" president.
and i think her and her office constantly 'forgetting' teh head of the cia telling them they are wrong in what they are saying is enough to say she should be out of that line
They wouldn't explain it because its congress and they have behaved this way for hundreds of years.
and we have no one to blame but ourselves for allowing our elected representatives to continually lie to us and work against our interests
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
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Yet the few people on here are trying to lead this Obama=McCain brigrade.
I'm not buying it. He doesn't support Bush's patriot act. He has worked hard to reform it but he was defeated. Still some of his changes did make it onto the new bill so he voted for it as a sign of solidarity.
He has always been against the Iraq war but you have to vote to fund it or the Soldiers won't have ammo or food. I don't think Bush would send them home just because the Senate stopped funding. He'd find a way to keep them there.
Not every American is sure they want Universal Health Care the the tax increased that would go with it. He pledges that every child will have universal coverage and to me that is a start. I like my health care plan through my job and would not want it to change to the Canadian system where it takes a month to get an appointment.
He voted to confirm Condi Rice because she was qualified for the position. It is not Senate's job to agree with the Presidents policies or cabinet members. They just need to be qualified to do whats required with the position and she clearly is qualified to do that.
He does not support war with Iran. He want to have diplomatic meetings. No other candidate has stated they would do this. All he said is that war will not be taken off of the table. WHAT A HAWK!!!
What no one seems to understand around here is that a President must work with his congress to make changes because of America's Check and Balances system. Even an extreme liberal like Nader would have to adopt some centrist polices or he would watch everyone of his bills fail to pass through congress.
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
It's not the end of the world, of course, the country survived 8 years of Bush after all... but I don't know anyone in the running currently that I think much of. Local and state elections matter more to most peoples lives anyway or the should.
soldiarity of what??
they can vote to give the troops what they need while not voting to keep the war going for another year
most americans DO want universal health care. and obama's won't give kids universal health care coverage, just thet opportunity to have it...their parents still need to purchase it
how is she 'clearly qualified'???? let's see, she was an oil exec who has a freighter named after her and her office just 'forgot' that the cia kept sending memos and calling them saying they disagreed w/ statements this administration was making , like the yellow cake claim....sorry, but if you can't remember the head of the cia telling you these things i don't think you deserve a promotion to sec of state
but if nader was elected it would be b/c it's what the ppl want, so how will congress explain sticking up for corporate interests instead of theirs?
when's the last time congress actually acted as a check and balance??? seems like all they do is say one thing, get elected then act as a rubber stamp.
they were elected to end the war...they tried ONCE and gave in afterwards
they complained of FISA during elections, then they get elected and let teh law be changed so what the administration is doing isn't illegal anymore....
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
As far as I know they just voted to keep funding the war. How is that different from what I said.
How do you know what most American's want? Its 50-50 at best with the health care issue. Health care should be available to anyone who can't get it thru their jobs or school. If we had nationwide health care not only would taxes go up but my coverage would be worse. Why would I want that?
A simple wiki search of Condi's career could help you here. Not a fan of her or her policies but she was a top educator at Stanford for 20 years. She was clearly in line for a cabinet position when Bush was "elected" president.
They wouldn't explain it because its congress and they have behaved this way for hundreds of years.
Its not like they are voting for all of Bush's policies in. I think they have both not accomplished anything because anything Bush wants they don't pass and anything they pass (like the children's health care for example) Bush vetoes. That's what happens when Congress and the President don't like each other. Think back to Clinton butting heads with Republicans in congress for 6 years. It got so bad they tried to remove him from office for receiving a BJ.
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7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
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10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
what changes were made? it's still voting for shit
b/c they can put up to vote for specific things, they aren't just confined to voting to fund the war or not...they can pass money for what the troops need...shit, even when they vote to fund the war the troops still don't get what they need!
polls, for one thing. taxes wouldn't need to go up if we cut wasteful spending. naders plan calls for a 3.5% payroll tax, which is less than i pay now for my shitty health insurance thru my job. an educated and healthy public are in our nation's best interests, but not corporate interests
and i think her and her office constantly 'forgetting' teh head of the cia telling them they are wrong in what they are saying is enough to say she should be out of that line
and we have no one to blame but ourselves for allowing our elected representatives to continually lie to us and work against our interests
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
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