This election sucks for me.

acoustic guy
acoustic guy Posts: 3,770
edited June 2008 in A Moving Train
I don't like either candidate at all.
Both parties are fucked up. There needs to be more strength in the Green party or something.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
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  • brain of c
    brain of c Posts: 5,213
    welcome to the machine.
  • I don't like either candidate at all.
    Both parties are fucked up. There needs to be more strength in the Green party or something.


    Strength is in numbers. If you want to support the Green party then do so. People have to be willing to support things when they are small or less heard of if they want to see them ever gain any ground.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
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  • DPrival78
    DPrival78 CT Posts: 2,263
    Strength is in numbers. If you want to support the Green party then do so. People have to be willing to support things when they are small or less heard of if they want to see them ever gain any ground.


    true, but it's easier for most people just to go with the flow.

    a wise man, who at one time backed a 3rd party candidate, in a growling voice once mentioned 'herd behavior'.. so there you go.
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  • Don't you know
    They're talkin' about a revolution
    It sounds like whisper
    Don't you know
    They're talkin' about a revolution
    It sounds like whisper

    While they're standing in the welfare lines
    Crying at the doorsteps of those armies of salvation
    Wasting time in the unemployment lines
    Sitting around waiting for a promotion

    Poor people gonna rise up
    And get their share
    Poor people gonna rise up
    And take what's theirs

    T.C.
  • pateljam
    pateljam Posts: 340
    I don't like either candidate at all.
    Both parties are fucked up. There needs to be more strength in the Green party or something.

    Yep... once again its a choice of the lessor of two evils...
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  • acoustic guy
    acoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    pateljam wrote:
    Yep... once again its a choice of the lessor of two evils...
    Exactly, this totally sucks. There really needs to be a new type of party. I guess I consider myself a Liberal Republican but in reality my beliefs are not black and white. In todays world there is way to much gray.
    Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
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  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    I like a lot of Obama's views so far. If some of the good old boys down South don't mind seeing a black President, then I really like my chances of Obama being my President. The electoral vote in the Northeast, Mid-West and Pacific states won't be enough. He has to win some of the South.
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    LongRd. wrote:
    I like a lot of Obama's views so far.
    So you agree that Israel should have the unconditional support of the US in their occupation of Palestine, and that jerusalem should be the undivided capital of Israel? What about keeping mercenary armies in Iraq for the next 3-5 years? you like that, too?
  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    _outlaw wrote:
    So you agree that Israel should have the unconditional support of the US in their occupation of Palestine, and that jerusalem should be the undivided capital of Israel? What about keeping mercenary armies in Iraq for the next 3-5 years? you like that, too?
    He wants an end to the war and have the troops home in the best way possible. He also reduce nuclear facilities here in the U.S. to encourage other nations to reduce theirs as well. He wants a better more peaceful world. :)
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  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    I also don't mind his tax raises neither since a huge chunk of it is gonna go to healthcare anyhow.
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    LongRd. wrote:
    He wants an end to the war and have the troops home in the best way possible. He also reduce nuclear facilities here in the U.S. to encourage other nations to reduce theirs as well. He wants a better more peaceful world. :)
    An end to the war? A more peaceful world? How can someone who wants an end to the war keep mercenary armies present in the occupied country? How can someone who "wants a better more peaceful world" fully support Israel, who is currently brutally occupying Palestine?

    sorry, not buying it, and you shouldn't either.
  • nocode23
    nocode23 Posts: 411
    It's the South Park Giant Douche vs. Turd Sandwich episode all over again.
  • BamaPJFan
    BamaPJFan Posts: 410
    LongRd. wrote:
    I like a lot of Obama's views so far. If some of the good old boys down South don't mind seeing a black President, then I really like my chances of Obama being my President. The electoral vote in the Northeast, Mid-West and Pacific states won't be enough. He has to win some of the South.

    I'm from the South and I'm a democrat (I served as state president of the Alabama Young Democrats from 2002-2004), but Obama is way too far to the left for me. It has nothing to do with his skin color for me, but rather his politics and the bad characters that he has surrounded himself with over the years.
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  • BamaPJFan wrote:
    I'm from the South and I'm a democrat (I served as state president of the Alabama Young Democrats from 2002-2004), but Obama is way too far to the left for me. It has nothing to do with his skin color for me, but rather his politics and the bad characters that he has surrounded himself with over the years.


    What exactly are you basing this on? Because of all the things I can complain about with Obama, being too far to the left ain't one of them.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • BamaPJFan
    BamaPJFan Posts: 410
    What exactly are you basing this on? Because of all the things I can complain about with Obama, being too far to the left ain't one of them.

    He's too far to the left for my taste on most issues. I'm a moderate-centrist Democrat. I feel like he's too out of touch with mainstream America. For true hardcore liberals, he certainly appeals 100%. For me, I prefer a tough macho Democrat like Jim Webb from Virginia or a southern trial lawyer Democrat like John Edwards. I am pro-Universal healthcare, but Obama ironically isn't. Edwards (who I was supporting) and Clinton were the true, pro-Universal healthcare Democrats.

    In having said the above, I feel like Obama will win the election even if he doesn't win a single southern state. If he can win the same states that Kerry won in 2004 and add just one more state, such as Ohio, then he's the next president.
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  • BamaPJFan wrote:
    He's too far to the left for my taste on most issues. I'm a moderate-centrist Democrat. I feel like he's too out of touch with mainstream America. For true hardcore liberals, he certainly appeals 100%. For me, I prefer a tough macho Democrat like Jim Webb from Virginia or a southern trial lawyer Democrat like John Edwards. I am pro-Universal healthcare, but Obama ironically isn't. Edwards (who I was supporting) and Clinton were the true, pro-Universal healthcare Democrats.

    In having said the above, I feel like Obama will win the election even if he doesn't win a single southern state. If he can win the same states that Kerry won in 2004 and add just one more state, such as Ohio, then he's the next president.


    What stances of Jim Webb's and even Edwards or Clinton do you prefer that you also don't see in Obama? ...other than healthcare, of course as you mentioned....which ironically enough, Obama is to the right of on that particular issue.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • brandon10
    brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    BamaPJFan wrote:
    He's too far to the left for my taste on most issues. I'm a moderate-centrist Democrat. I feel like he's too out of touch with mainstream America. For true hardcore liberals, he certainly appeals 100%. For me, I prefer a tough macho Democrat like Jim Webb from Virginia or a southern trial lawyer Democrat like John Edwards. I am pro-Universal healthcare, but Obama ironically isn't. Edwards (who I was supporting) and Clinton were the true, pro-Universal healthcare Democrats.

    In having said the above, I feel like Obama will win the election even if he doesn't win a single southern state. If he can win the same states that Kerry won in 2004 and add just one more state, such as Ohio, then he's the next president.


    Pure racism. It's so obvious.
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    Obama too left? wtf, what does that even mean?
  • unsung
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    It means he is the most liberal Senator, look it up.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    LongRd. wrote:
    He also reduce nuclear facilities here in the U.S. to encourage other nations to reduce theirs as well.

    That is a little hard to read. What do you mean by nuclear facilities? Missiles? Power plants? Please explain.