Imagine

cornnifer

Collin wrote:

I only references I see to religion are the words "religion", obviously, and "Heaven" and "Hell". Your interpretation is that John fucking Lennon was this close minded person that believed religion was the root of all evil and not just religion, personal faith too. But maybe he wasn't this evil person you make him out to be, maybe his song was against the people who turned your religion or faith into something it's not, who made it fit their agenda's, who used religion as a tool... the people who a true Christian wouldn't call Christians...

How do you know that John "fucking" Lennon could not make a distinction between faith and religion?


And of course you are entitled to your opinion, that this song is prejudicial close minded bull shit, but that's just your interpretation of the song. Try to look at it from another perspective, not from the "everyone is against god" perspective...

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No need to get bent out of shape here. I'm not trying to slander one of your heroes or anything. There are bits in there, about possessions and greed that i honestly agree with. Its very clear to anyone who objectively listens to the lyrics (everyone here knows them, they need not be posted 75 times) of the song, that what he really says, in literal terms, is "think and believe exactly like i do, and the whole world will live in peace, the whole world will live as one... just like me". Its very clear. i was simply weighing in on a discussion someone else started. i apparently have touched a nerve, and for that, i appologize. i'll respectfully back out of this one.

Collin

cornnifer wrote:

No need to get bent out of shape here. I'm not trying to slander one of your heroes or anything. There are bits in there, about possessions and greed that i honestly agree with. Its very clear to anyone who objectively listens to the lyrics (everyone here knows them, they need not be posted 75 times) of the song, that what he really says, in literal terms, is "think and believe exactly like i do, and the whole world will live in peace, the whole world will live as one... just like me". Its very clear. i was simply weighing in on a discussion someone else started. i apparently have touched a nerve, and for that, i appologize. i'll respectfully back out of this one.

John Lennon is not one of my heroes and you have not touched a nerve, but thanks for apologizing anyway.
You said:

Open minded?
"just think, if there was no religion, no faith, the world would be safe and peaceful. It would be such a better world without all those idiots that believe in God".

Hardly open minded or idealistic in my oppinion. In fact, very close minded and prejudiced. Not to mention bullshit.

I'm just saying I don't see that in that song. I don't see where he says anything about Faith or about "idiots that believe in God."

Heineken Helen

given to grunge wrote:

Do you have a sense for a good melodies?! without any offence
U can't say the melody isn't nice, cus it is. (I think it is nice to majority of others)

Sorry, I should have put 'in my opinion'. So 'in my opinion', I think the melody is crap, really horrible. The only time it sounds even a little bit nice is when Eva Cassidy sings it. And that VIDEO??? Eurgh!!!!!!!! Yoko certainly has no part in MY imaginary perfect world :eek:

Heineken Helen

Besides, 'let it be' is a much more euphoric song:

'and when the night is cloudy, there is still a light that shines on me. Shine until tomorrow, let it be!'

Now THAT I can imagine