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Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You may say I'm
a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
---John Lennon
It would be a good f*cking place to live at (hope this USA warshit will end up, that Koreans will drown their intentions of starting a nuclear war)
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You may say I'm
a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
---John Lennon
It would be a good f*cking place to live at (hope this USA warshit will end up, that Koreans will drown their intentions of starting a nuclear war)
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi
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Sorry to sound negative, but if you really think about, at what point during our 4000 or so years of recorded existence have we been peaceful and tolerant with one another?!!?!
I agree, but the man had a good idea, 100% he was high. but all in all the name of the song is IMAGINE. And it is nice to imagine but sooner or later you have to "use your mentality and wake up to reality".
I agree. It's a wonderful thought though. I nearly cried when I went to strawberry fields this year.
Doesn't mean we should give up working towards these goals and ideals. Good ideas are worth the effort even if they aren't ever fully realized. That would be like giving up on all notions of peace, harmony and equality because they will never be fully attained by us humans. I'll never let my apathy talk me into settling for this bleak reality...I'm going strive to make this reality into something much better. Change is all around us.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Where does he blame all of the world's ill on faith? And read the lyrics, imagine being the keyword, if there would be no countries, no religion, no possessions, there would, imo, be less war.
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IMAGINE what the world would be like if everyone gave up on these ideals.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
take out a few lyrics and it sounds like a speech from Stalin....
If we didn't have open minded, idealistic people like John, we'd all be negative about the world. Good thing that there's more than just millions of cynics out there, otherwise there would be no good in the world at all. You just crush the whole idea, it seems.
Have you read Ishmael? It's about the Takers (man) and the Leavers (rest of the animal kingdom). If you read it, it tells how the comman law of the Leavers is that there's no war between the species, each live in peace with all the others. But the Takers wage war amongst themselves. All in all, we're destroying our own civilazation. We have ourselves to blame. According to history (and you) we'll never be peaceful and tolerant, but at least there was one of us who imagined that we could get past that.
Even if it was only an Idea.
Now if only we could get past our need for everything that's tearing us apart.
So, do you feel the same way about the band members? They may have money, but they're not greedy. Neither was John Lennon.
Can anyone really imagine a world like that? Seriously, can anyone?
Open minded?
"just think, if there was no religion, no faith, the world would be safe and peaceful. It would be such a better world without all those idiots that believe in God".
Hardly open minded or idealistic in my oppinion. In fact, very close minded and prejudiced. Not to mention bullshit.
Actually, there's a lot of religious fanatics out there that believe that their beliefs are fact. A lot of serious believers of anything will tell anyone else who think otherwise, that they are just plain wrong. They can't seem to remember that they chose to believe those ideals and there's no "fact" about it....hence, closed-mindedness. I'm not saying everyone who has a faith believes this way, but more often I see than not.
it'd be easy for a monk, but not too many others. because man is both greedy and needy.
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
are you a little confused buddy?
I've had enough, said enough, felt enough, I'm fine now.
Push me pull me. See ya later
<present tense inhabiter #0003 & Even Flow psycho #0036>
Here's something to think about
the lyrics are;
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
and here's something you said:
Where do you see John attacking faith?
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First of all, you left out many of the lyrics here. Secondly, i DID say that Christianity is not a religion, and, you see the heat i took for it. Others, although they should, cannot seem to make the distinction. Not people on this board, and certainly not John fucking Lennon. Nice try. Look, i don't care if you or anyone else loves this song. As a matter of fact, its no surprise. i stated earlier, based on some elements of the song, i can appreciate it as well. i am entitled to point out that it is prejudicial, close minded bull shit however, and i don't understand how it could be the fucking theme song for hippies worlwide who claim to be so "open minded".
Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You may say I'm
a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
I only references I see to religion are the words "religion", obviously, and "Heaven" and "Hell". Your interpretation is that John fucking Lennon was this close minded person that believed religion was the root of all evil and not just religion, personal faith too. But maybe he wasn't this evil person you make him out to be, maybe his song was against the people who turned your religion or faith into something it's not, who made it fit their agenda's, who used religion as a tool... the people who a true Christian wouldn't call Christians...
How do you know that John "fucking" Lennon could not make a distinction between faith and religion?
And of course you are entitled to your opinion, that this song is prejudicial close minded bull shit, but that's just your interpretation of the song. Try to look at it from another perspective, not from the "everyone is against god" perspective...
Here's another quote:
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It is very strange how easily good and evil can be interchanged. Most "evil" ideas were very good natured. God forgive me, and please do not hurt me to badly. It even seems that communism was a fantastic idea where everyone would have the same amount and be taken care of (we know it does not work) but the idea is great. Hitler ran with a good idea, but we all know whre it ended. We don't always know what the new inventions and ideas can lead to.
My country was a member of a former Yugoslavija, communism system was on, and everyone had a job then. The thing was that nobody had to worry about the job - they had it guaranteed by the "government".
All the people were happy even though they haven't had big money and big salaries, but it was nice.
And then the capitalism came and now we, the people, have to worry day by day, how to feed our children, how to pay for their education, how to fuel a car (I know that's all luxurious but....you can't live without these things now).
All in all it was a peaceful and nice kind of life, NOW it's life filled with worries! (war, job - money, security...etc.)
There... I said it :mad:
It's crap, crap, crap, crap, and it's not even my idea of paradise... the world is made up of opposites, and it's those opposites that make us appreciate what we have and what we don't have. If we all lived in this supposedly perfect world of Lennons we'd be bored shitless.
And the melody isn't even nice :mad:
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I can stand it, but it's definitely not one of my favourites. I prefer Instant Karma.
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Do you have a sense for a good melodies?! without any offence
U can't say the melody isn't nice, cus it is. (I think it is nice to majority of others)
Actually, it's the melody which kind of makes it a little less appealing to me. It sort of has a personal, emotion meaning to me though... nostalgia...
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