Imagine

given to grunge
given to grunge Posts: 244
edited October 2006 in A Moving Train
Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say I'm
a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

---John Lennon


It would be a good f*cking place to live at (hope this USA warshit will end up, that Koreans will drown their intentions of starting a nuclear war)
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi
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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    One of my favourite songs ever. So damn powerful.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    The Greatest Song Ever Written!!
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    great song.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • pickupyourwill
    pickupyourwill Posts: 3,135
    beautiful :)
  • Will1659
    Will1659 Posts: 51
    given to grunge wrote:
    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people
    Sharing all the world
    Written from the comfort of a high-price Manhattan apartment building. Shut up John. Hypocrite.
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    i guess i'm one of the only people to hear this song and think, "O.K. one more guy who doesn't know what the hell they are talking about blaming all of the worlds ill on faith. Shut up". Don't get me wrong its well written with a nice melody, but, its BS. If there was no faith, if the whole world was staunchly atheistic, there would STILL be war, poverty, greed, and disease. Smoke another one John.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • negationist
    negationist Posts: 237
    great song and fantastic ideas but it'll never ever happen. We are man and we judge people, people of different colour, people of different socioeconomic standing, people of different intelligence. And as long there is man, there will always be greed, envy and hate. So i don't think it'll ever, ever happen.

    Sorry to sound negative, but if you really think about, at what point during our 4000 or so years of recorded existence have we been peaceful and tolerant with one another?!!?!
    If Pearl Jam was a beer, they'd probably be the best beer in the world!!
  • given to grunge
    given to grunge Posts: 244
    negationist wrote:
    great song and fantastic ideas but it'll never ever happen. We are man and we judge people, people of different colour, people of different socioeconomic standing, people of different intelligence. And as long there is man, there will always be greed, envy and hate. So i don't think it'll ever, ever happen.

    I agree, but the man had a good idea, 100% he was high. but all in all the name of the song is IMAGINE. And it is nice to imagine but sooner or later you have to "use your mentality and wake up to reality".
    First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    given to grunge wrote:
    I agree, but the man had a good idea, 100% he was high. but all in all the name of the song is IMAGINE. And it is nice to imagine but sooner or later you have to "use your mentality and wake up to reality".

    I agree. It's a wonderful thought though. I nearly cried when I went to strawberry fields this year.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    given to grunge wrote:
    I agree, but the man had a good idea, 100% he was high. but all in all the name of the song is IMAGINE. And it is nice to imagine but sooner or later you have to "use your mentality and wake up to reality".

    Doesn't mean we should give up working towards these goals and ideals. Good ideas are worth the effort even if they aren't ever fully realized. That would be like giving up on all notions of peace, harmony and equality because they will never be fully attained by us humans. I'll never let my apathy talk me into settling for this bleak reality...I'm going strive to make this reality into something much better. Change is all around us.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    cornnifer wrote:
    i guess i'm one of the only people to hear this song and think, "O.K. one more guy who doesn't know what the hell they are talking about blaming all of the worlds ill on faith. Shut up". Don't get me wrong its well written with a nice melody, but, its BS. If there was no faith, if the whole world was staunchly atheistic, there would STILL be war, poverty, greed, and disease. Smoke another one John.

    Where does he blame all of the world's ill on faith? And read the lyrics, imagine being the keyword, if there would be no countries, no religion, no possessions, there would, imo, be less war.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    negationist wrote:

    Sorry to sound negative, but if you really think about, at what point during our 4000 or so years of recorded existence have we been peaceful and tolerant with one another?!!?!

    IMAGINE what the world would be like if everyone gave up on these ideals.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • binauralsounds
    binauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    given to grunge wrote:
    Imagine there's no Heaven
    It's easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    And no religion too

    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us


    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people

    ---John Lennon


    take out a few lyrics and it sounds like a speech from Stalin....
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    negationist wrote:
    great song and fantastic ideas but it'll never ever happen. We are man and we judge people, people of different colour, people of different socioeconomic standing, people of different intelligence. And as long there is man, there will always be greed, envy and hate. So i don't think it'll ever, ever happen.

    If we didn't have open minded, idealistic people like John, we'd all be negative about the world. Good thing that there's more than just millions of cynics out there, otherwise there would be no good in the world at all. You just crush the whole idea, it seems.
    Sorry to sound negative, but if you really think about, at what point during our 4000 or so years of recorded existence have we been peaceful and tolerant with one another?!!?!

    Have you read Ishmael? It's about the Takers (man) and the Leavers (rest of the animal kingdom). If you read it, it tells how the comman law of the Leavers is that there's no war between the species, each live in peace with all the others. But the Takers wage war amongst themselves. All in all, we're destroying our own civilazation. We have ourselves to blame. According to history (and you) we'll never be peaceful and tolerant, but at least there was one of us who imagined that we could get past that.
    Even if it was only an Idea.

    Now if only we could get past our need for everything that's tearing us apart.
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Will1659 wrote:
    Written from the comfort of a high-price Manhattan apartment building. Shut up John. Hypocrite.

    So, do you feel the same way about the band members? They may have money, but they're not greedy. Neither was John Lennon.
  • negationist
    negationist Posts: 237
    given to grunge wrote:
    Imagine there's no Heaven
    It's easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people
    Living for today

    Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace

    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will be as one

    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people
    Sharing all the world

    You may say I'm
    a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will live as one

    ---John Lennon


    Can anyone really imagine a world like that? Seriously, can anyone?
    If Pearl Jam was a beer, they'd probably be the best beer in the world!!
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Jeanwah wrote:
    If we didn't have open minded, idealistic people like John, we'd all be negative about the world.


    .

    Open minded?
    "just think, if there was no religion, no faith, the world would be safe and peaceful. It would be such a better world without all those idiots that believe in God".

    Hardly open minded or idealistic in my oppinion. In fact, very close minded and prejudiced. Not to mention bullshit.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    chiefojibwa wrote:
    wow, and YOU are quite open minded, aren't you?
    Actually, yes, i am.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    cornnifer wrote:
    Open minded?
    "just think, if there was no religion, no faith, the world would be safe and peaceful. It would be such a better world without all those idiots that believe in God".

    Hardly open minded or idealistic in my oppinion. In fact, very close minded and prejudiced. Not to mention bullshit.

    Actually, there's a lot of religious fanatics out there that believe that their beliefs are fact. A lot of serious believers of anything will tell anyone else who think otherwise, that they are just plain wrong. They can't seem to remember that they chose to believe those ideals and there's no "fact" about it....hence, closed-mindedness. I'm not saying everyone who has a faith believes this way, but more often I see than not.
  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    negationist wrote:
    Can anyone really imagine a world like that? Seriously, can anyone?

    it'd be easy for a monk, but not too many others. because man is both greedy and needy.
    Another habit says it's in love with you
    Another habit says its long overdue
    Another habit like an unwanted friend
    I'm so happy with my righteous self

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