Now that Iran has enriched uranium...

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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    NCfan wrote:
    I would also like to choose option C, but I'm not sure it exists. Since you are choosing it, what might it be?

    That the people of each individual country should be the ones who weild the power/influence over their own country. I know option C doesn't really exist but I can hope and dream.
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  • NCfanNCfan Posts: 945
    Cosmo wrote:
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    Why is it OUR choice how the Middle East runs THEIR lives? Who put US in charge of THEIR affairs?
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    Add: The U.S. has strenghtened Iran's hand in the region while weakening ours. We have accomplished for them (Iran), something the Ayatollah and 8 years of open warfare was unable to do... hand Iraq over to the Shi'ites.
    Like it or not... the Iraq war plays into this thing. Bush is responsible for this situation and if you support him and/or his war... you are partially responsible, too.

    That is such a juvenille position. I'm not name calling or trying to be a dick, but in the year 2007, how can you think that way?

    The answer to your questions is simply becuase what happens there affects the rest of the world. You don't have to like it, but you need to accept the fact that we are all the inhabitants of one planet, and our self-interests are going to rub each other from time to time. We can't solve our problems until we comprehend the reality of the world in which we live.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    NCfan wrote:
    That is such a juvenille position. I'm not name calling or trying to be a dick, but in the year 2007, how can you think that way?

    The answer to your questions is simply becuase what happens there affects the rest of the world. You don't have to like it, but you need to accept the fact that we are all the inhabitants of one planet, and our self-interests are going to rub each other from time to time. We can't solve our problems until we comprehend the reality of the world in which we live.
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    Why is it so important? Because we are addicted to the oil, that's why.
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    If it is that vital to the whole world... then, how about we (the rest of the world that is afraid of a Nuclear Capable Iran) get together and shut them out? It'll mean that the price of a barrel of oil may shoot up to 100 bucks a barrel... but, what is worse, 6 dollar a gallon gasoline or Iran with nukes?
    The problem is that you want to keep the lower prices, which includes Iranian oil exports, AND de-fang Iran's Nuclear capabilities. Well, Welcome to 2007. You can't have it your way anymore.
    And just because it is NOT in America's best interests means it is not in the World's best interest. We are NOT the world. Maybe Russia benefits from their buddies in Iran... maybe China will... maybe Europe. Who knows?
    That is the reality of this 'Global Aspect' that you speak of. We are not leaders because we have been acting like dicks since 2003. We had that opportunity to lead... but, we blew it because of our inflated egos and abundance of our military arsenal. The guy with the most guns doesn't always make the best leader.
    You talk about this whole global thing... if you walk around like an asshole, making more enemies than friends, people are not going to respect you. Respect that is demanded is never real. Command respect, don't demand it.
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  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    Everyobne is bangin on about Iran wiping out israel, but did it occur to anyone that Iran is probably paranoid about israel wiping them out. Maybe once the ewquation is equalised, then there will be less need for rhetoric and bombast. Pakistan and India have ballanced each other, both having nukes.
    Of course, I would much rather no-one had them, but lets face it, in the great era of disarmament, teh US held on to all of theirs.
    It's just one big stupid pissing contest, with us all standing to get pissed on when it goes wrong.
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  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Give me Tesla's earth shattering device and I'll end all wars.
    Did you see them try to build and test one on mythbusters? That was pretty cool. They had low confidence in it working of course, and it didn't in the way that Tesla described.

    But, they made a huge steel bridge vibrate enough that they could definitely feel it, with a pretty little device.

    Peace
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    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

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  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    NCfan wrote:
    And one more thing. Why would a group of leaders such as those in Iran not use the bomb, or at least use their possesion of it to push others around in an attempt to consolidate their influence and power? Oh, that's right - becuase Bush started and illegal war in Iraq.
    Oh they will, just like everyone else. Not much different.

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
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