In other words, the media did cover a "black on white" crime, but it does not count?
In other words, the same words I said before. I agree with Rain Dog that Imus and OJ were celebrities and were going to get coverage regardless. I disagree with him that the Duke players were celebrities ( I couldn't have named a Duke lacrosse player before this incident).
But if you want to join the revs in playing the race card, too, that's your prerogative.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
i agree but when was the last time you read about 5 white guys and 1 white girl commiting a crime like this on 2 black young people ,i don't remember ever reading about .....
The media has no vested interest in reporting crimes where the victim is white and the perps are black. It doesnt fit into any of their agendas, nor does it help any of their causes or interests. If this had been 5 white guys who did this to a young black couple, or a young gay couple, it'd be a media circus. Our media truly is dogshit.
What are their agendas, causes and interests? To demonize white people?
I think that they don't feel this would create enough of a stir (which is "our" fault as much as "theirs") or they have a fear of the PC Police. I think it's the former, as I do not think this gets reported if it is "white on white." I think, as pertaining to what horrific crimes they show (not to be confused the the war crimes they bury while talking about Imus and Paris), it's all about ratings.
At the risk of putting words in your mouth (because maybe I misinterpret your point), I don't think the media is part of some anti-white / pro-black conspiracy.
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What are their agendas, causes and interests? To demonize white people?
I think that they don't feel this would create enough of a stir (which is "our" fault as much as "theirs") or they have a fear of the PC Police. I think it's the former, as I do not think this gets reported if it is "white on white." I think, as pertaining to what horrific crimes they show (not to be confused the the war crimes they bury while talking about Imus and Paris), it's all about ratings.
At the risk of putting words in your mouth (because maybe I misinterpret your point), I don't think the media is part of some anti-white / pro-black conspiracy.
Not to demonize whites, but, to victimize anyone not white. Its not as much about being "anti white" to me as it seems to be "pro gay", "pro minority". Why is it so easy for some to think there's media bias/agenda concerning the war, concerning the president, but not this?
In other words, the same words I said before. I agree with Rain Dog that Imus and OJ were celebrities and were going to get coverage regardless. I disagree with him that the Duke players were celebrities ( I couldn't have named a Duke lacrosse player before this incident).
But if you want to join the revs in playing the race card, too, that's your prerogative.
You obviously did not read all of my posts, which acknowledged the double standard. In fact, I'll go a step farther and say that Imus was NOT about celebrity, but entirely about race. Shock jocks say all sorts of stupid shit. And I essentially agree that OJ's celebrity was the reason that murder was coverd outside of its local. But if you're in an urban area, watch your local news for a while, you'll see some unknown blacks covered.
As for the race card, the only way I can play it is to say though all of this little fighting back from white America, I am certainly not thinking I'd have been better off being born black.
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Not to demonize whites, but, to victimize anyone not white. Its not as much about being "anti white" to me as it seems to be "pro gay", "pro minority". Why is it so easy for some to think there's media bias/agenda concerning the war, concerning the president, but not this?
Pro gay? In other words, you think the Matthew Sheppard murder was covered because he was gay? Well, it was. But that is not about trying to be pro-gay. That's about coverage of something that will be interesting to people. It was pretty recent that it was tottally OK to mistreat gays. Whatever role the media played in helping change that for the better is fine by me. But next time a group of gays murders a straight person, hurling slurs of "non-fag", I am sure the pro-gay media will not cover it.
As for "pro-minority," the most important media people (Rush, Hannity and O'Reilly) certainly are not. As for the rest of the media? I think it's more a case of political correctness than "pro minority." I think they're scarred of getting a negative reaction to the commentary of talking about all these horrible evil blacks killing these two whites. I don't think they have an agenda to make it better for minorities. In fact, their own sensationalism is better served if things do not get better for minoriteis.
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Al Sharpton? It is sad you'd parade these criminals around to represent those that Al Shapton represents. You welcome the large contingent of haters and racists to swim and feed.
I WANT these suns a bitches peeled with a potato peeler then dipped in salt let sit for 1 hour. then egg washed & dipped in flour and deep fried in a giant vat of boiling hot crisco and then shipped to the heart of an african jungle inside a giant red and white striped bucket labled kentucky fried shit and then dumped by helicopter for the wild animals to eat. i would like to see this all televised for the entire world to see. because jail isn't enough payback for these creatures.
Al Sharpton? It is sad you'd parade these criminals around to represent those that Al Shapton represents. You welcome the large contingent of haters and racists to swim and feed.
Al welcomed them in all by himself with the Tawana Brawley fiasco.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
You obviously did not read all of my posts, which acknowledged the double standard. In fact, I'll go a step farther and say that Imus was NOT about celebrity, but entirely about race. Shock jocks say all sorts of stupid shit. And I essentially agree that OJ's celebrity was the reason that murder was coverd outside of its local. But if you're in an urban area, watch your local news for a while, you'll see some unknown blacks covered.
As for the race card, the only way I can play it is to say though all of this little fighting back from white America, I am certainly not thinking I'd have been better off being born black.
I agree with you that the Imus incident itself was definitely about race. But I'm suggesting the coverage of the incident was about his celebrity. Some mid-day jock in a 3rd tier city would have never received the coverage Imus did.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
NO FUCKIN WAY i'm not just like them i would never ever, ever hurt an innocent person in my life for the entire world. these people are animals and other animals like them need to face more harsh realities than prison and then just maybe I STRESS MAYBE... fucking animalistic pigs like this might keep their sick demented fantasies inside their heads and not really act them out. it's soft hearted peple like you that help keep this type of shit happening. these people are the lowest of the low and i'm sick and fucking tired of paying taxes to keep these animals in cages. i'd rather my tax money be spent on a deterrent that just might work.
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NO FUCKIN WAY i'm not just like them i would never ever, ever hurt an innocent person in my life for the entire world. these people are animals and other animals like them need to face more harsh realities than prison and then just maybe I STRESS MAYBE... fucking animalistic pigs like this might keep their sick demented fantasies inside their heads and not really act them out. it's soft hearted peple like you that help keep this type of shit happening. these people are the lowest of the low and i'm sick and fucking tired of paying taxes to keep these animals in cages. i'd rather my tax money be spent on a deterrent that just might work.
At least you stressed maybe because there ain't no deterrent in the world that can beat a strong will. Not trying to justify what happened but come on man if the bomb in Japan didn't stop people from wanting more power or taking over the world. And the death penalty dosen't stop "animals" from committing the same types of crime. What makes you think that a form of torture on the culprits is going to help in any sort of way?
Just read the other thread on those beasts from the middle east and that little girl who got beaten for falling in love with somebody who, god forbid, isn't like them. Strong will my man beats anything.
I WANT these suns a bitches peeled with a potato peeler then dipped in salt let sit for 1 hour. then egg washed & dipped in flour and deep fried in a giant vat of boiling hot crisco and then shipped to the heart of an african jungle inside a giant red and white striped bucket labled kentucky fried shit and then dumped by helicopter for the wild animals to eat. i would like to see this all televised for the entire world to see. because jail isn't enough payback for these creatures.
Also, this is pretty sick. It's one thing to say you feel they should get the death penalty but wanting to see them tortured in the most cruel way and actually watch it on tv, is very very sick.
The crime these people commited is one of the most heinous things I ever heard about. Not only the crime but the fact that it was commited by a group of people is so sick.
Yet I believe no matter how awful someone's crime is, the person who commited it is still someone's father, mother, brother, sister, daughter or son... and you're asking that their family should suffer as much as the families of the victims.
It's a sick society we live in and I don't think crimes like these earn anyone the right to stoop to the criminal's level, it's the lowest point you can be at, it's everything you hate and yet you're advocating it.
However, am I the only one that noticed the big disclaimer in parantheses halway through the link, where it says that this is how the case was presented, but numerous details were wrong and subsequently modified?
They were still murdered and probably not in a nice way, but it seems some of the details were juiced up a bit more than called for...
Anyway.
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"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
However, am I the only one that noticed the big disclaimer in parantheses halway through the link, where it says that this is how the case was presented, but numerous details were wrong and subsequently modified?
They were still murdered and probably not in a nice way, but it seems some of the details were juiced up a bit more than called for...
Anyway.
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It does say that even though there may have been embellishments that they were still tortured and then killed. So if they were tortured a little less than reported, I guess I can feel a little better about it. Or not.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
It does say that even though there may have been embellishments that they were still tortured and then killed. So if they were tortured a little less than reported, I guess I can feel a little better about it. Or not.
But precisely some of the embellishments, is what makes up the shock value of it. It's still murder and not something to just blow off, however, with the dynamics of hearsay, rumour and the inevitable exagerrations of these types of stories they are put forth a lot worse than they really are. (Even if they are bad regardless) I think that's a sort of lying and driving up a moral outrage larger than really called for.
I just felt that it needed pointing out, as most comments here seemed to swallow the story whole, without heeding the disclaimer which basically say that everything apart from murder and kidnapping the girl may be bollocks. Not condoning murder and kidnapping, mind, but neither does it need some spectacular extras to really make it "juicy" and fit to shock the public.
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In other words, the same words I said before. I agree with Rain Dog that Imus and OJ were celebrities and were going to get coverage regardless. I disagree with him that the Duke players were celebrities ( I couldn't have named a Duke lacrosse player before this incident).
But if you want to join the revs in playing the race card, too, that's your prerogative.
May not have raped her or cut her penis off, but the rest stacks up. Just have to read the news.http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/virk/
Aside from raping that black guy a while ago in the south, didn't they chain him to the back of a car and drag him around. Good ole boys!
What are their agendas, causes and interests? To demonize white people?
I think that they don't feel this would create enough of a stir (which is "our" fault as much as "theirs") or they have a fear of the PC Police. I think it's the former, as I do not think this gets reported if it is "white on white." I think, as pertaining to what horrific crimes they show (not to be confused the the war crimes they bury while talking about Imus and Paris), it's all about ratings.
At the risk of putting words in your mouth (because maybe I misinterpret your point), I don't think the media is part of some anti-white / pro-black conspiracy.
Not to demonize whites, but, to victimize anyone not white. Its not as much about being "anti white" to me as it seems to be "pro gay", "pro minority". Why is it so easy for some to think there's media bias/agenda concerning the war, concerning the president, but not this?
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You obviously did not read all of my posts, which acknowledged the double standard. In fact, I'll go a step farther and say that Imus was NOT about celebrity, but entirely about race. Shock jocks say all sorts of stupid shit. And I essentially agree that OJ's celebrity was the reason that murder was coverd outside of its local. But if you're in an urban area, watch your local news for a while, you'll see some unknown blacks covered.
As for the race card, the only way I can play it is to say though all of this little fighting back from white America, I am certainly not thinking I'd have been better off being born black.
Pro gay? In other words, you think the Matthew Sheppard murder was covered because he was gay? Well, it was. But that is not about trying to be pro-gay. That's about coverage of something that will be interesting to people. It was pretty recent that it was tottally OK to mistreat gays. Whatever role the media played in helping change that for the better is fine by me. But next time a group of gays murders a straight person, hurling slurs of "non-fag", I am sure the pro-gay media will not cover it.
As for "pro-minority," the most important media people (Rush, Hannity and O'Reilly) certainly are not. As for the rest of the media? I think it's more a case of political correctness than "pro minority." I think they're scarred of getting a negative reaction to the commentary of talking about all these horrible evil blacks killing these two whites. I don't think they have an agenda to make it better for minorities. In fact, their own sensationalism is better served if things do not get better for minoriteis.
so where is the story of 5 white guys and 1 white girl doing that to a young black couple did i miss something .......i meant the same crime
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your just like them...freakin ironic isn't it.
Al welcomed them in all by himself with the Tawana Brawley fiasco.
I agree with you that the Imus incident itself was definitely about race. But I'm suggesting the coverage of the incident was about his celebrity. Some mid-day jock in a 3rd tier city would have never received the coverage Imus did.
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Gotcha.
At least you stressed maybe because there ain't no deterrent in the world that can beat a strong will. Not trying to justify what happened but come on man if the bomb in Japan didn't stop people from wanting more power or taking over the world. And the death penalty dosen't stop "animals" from committing the same types of crime. What makes you think that a form of torture on the culprits is going to help in any sort of way?
Just read the other thread on those beasts from the middle east and that little girl who got beaten for falling in love with somebody who, god forbid, isn't like them. Strong will my man beats anything.
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All you have to do is take one look at them and you can see it.. guilty stamped all over their .... faces
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Also, this is pretty sick. It's one thing to say you feel they should get the death penalty but wanting to see them tortured in the most cruel way and actually watch it on tv, is very very sick.
The crime these people commited is one of the most heinous things I ever heard about. Not only the crime but the fact that it was commited by a group of people is so sick.
Yet I believe no matter how awful someone's crime is, the person who commited it is still someone's father, mother, brother, sister, daughter or son... and you're asking that their family should suffer as much as the families of the victims.
It's a sick society we live in and I don't think crimes like these earn anyone the right to stoop to the criminal's level, it's the lowest point you can be at, it's everything you hate and yet you're advocating it.
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However, am I the only one that noticed the big disclaimer in parantheses halway through the link, where it says that this is how the case was presented, but numerous details were wrong and subsequently modified?
They were still murdered and probably not in a nice way, but it seems some of the details were juiced up a bit more than called for...
Anyway.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
It does say that even though there may have been embellishments that they were still tortured and then killed. So if they were tortured a little less than reported, I guess I can feel a little better about it. Or not.
I just felt that it needed pointing out, as most comments here seemed to swallow the story whole, without heeding the disclaimer which basically say that everything apart from murder and kidnapping the girl may be bollocks. Not condoning murder and kidnapping, mind, but neither does it need some spectacular extras to really make it "juicy" and fit to shock the public.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965