REAL ID Act

mammasan

Cosmo wrote:

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I know... it's a fucking joke.
If a guy is here illegally... you have to be a complete idiot to think he's going to give you his real name and where he's from.
I'm with you... I hear Fiji is really nice this time of year.

Hell I'm game as long as they send me to a nice warm tropical place. Fiji or Costa Rica would be great. They have some of the best surfing spots in the world.

onelongsong

Cosmo wrote:

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I find this statement a bit puzzling...
I mean, it comes from someone who claims to have 'vanished' from society and admittedly avoided paying taxes in the past, under several aliases and who owns a stockpile of weapons in a compund (a.k. "Ranch") in the middle of nowhere... addressed to someone who willingly pays his taxes every year and only has one name, his real, birth name (except for his moniker on a Pearl Jam message board) and though he doesn't trust his government because he doesn't trust politicians, he does not own a ton of weapons in case the Army decides to storm his doors... because he KNOWS that will never happen.
Does that qualify as 'irony'?

i have no idea what you're talking about and can only imagine you have me confused with someone else.

onelongsong

Cosmo wrote:

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I know... it's a fucking joke.
If a guy is here illegally... you have to be a complete idiot to think he's going to give you his real name and where he's from.
I'm with you... I hear Fiji is really nice this time of year.

then i suggest concentration camps like austrailia has. or prosecute them for the crime they committed by entering illegally.

onelongsong

mammasan wrote:

Hell I'm game as long as they send me to a nice warm tropical place. Fiji or Costa Rica would be great. They have some of the best surfing spots in the world.

if you entered through mexico you're returned to mexico. you were their problem before you entered.

mammasan

onelongsong wrote:

if you entered through mexico you're returned to mexico. you were their problem before you entered.

Shit I was hoping the government would just send me to Costa Rica since I'm a pain in the ass. I was born here so I guess I really can't be deported.

onelongsong

mammasan wrote:

Shit I was hoping the government would just send me to Costa Rica since I'm a pain in the ass. I was born here so I guess I really can't be deported.

you're my friend. you stay here with me.

mammasan

onelongsong wrote:

you're my friend. you stay here with me.

Thank you. I'm not going anywhere. My kids are here.

Cosmo

onelongsong wrote:

i have no idea what you're talking about and can only imagine you have me confused with someone else.

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Wait... aren't you the same guy that raises free range buffalo or something? Was once in some sort of public office... who 'vanished' from the government's radar and laughed about avoiding taxes? I called a 'Criminal' and a 'Tax evader'?
No?
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Well, then I'm sorry. I must have gotten you confused with this other guy... a total asshole who had his head so far up his ass, he could see the back of his teeth. This guy was a real piece of work... so full of shit, it came out his ears. Sorry for the mix up... but, you shoulda seen this guy... he was a real tool.
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Still, a guy with more guns than the average gun shop and thousands upon thousands of rounds sound a bit more paraniod than me.

gue_barium

I have a compulsion to do away with my birth certificate, social security card, and drivers license. Put them all in a little pile and burn it up. Then, give myself a new name. Hell, I could change my name on a day-to day basis if I felt like it. I nearly did it once already, and I may do it yet. Why not?

hailhailkc

In response to Cosmo's earlier question...the mark of the beast as described by the Bible will be a mark placed on either the forehead or hand. I wouldn't worry about the Real ID card being the mark of the beast, but a lot of people think it's a start towards the real mark of the beast. An "opening act" if you will. A lot of people think RFID tags placed under the skin, or even a form of tattoo that is now currently available that can be scanned will be the mark of the beast.

The Bible also says you wont be able to buy or sell unless you have the mark of the beast.

It's coming, but pre trib Christians believe they won't be here to witness the mark of the beast. If you are here though, don't take it, because the Bible tells us that once you accept it, you are damned to hell.

Jeanie

Cosmo wrote:

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Wait... aren't you the same guy that raises free range buffalo or something? Was once in some sort of public office... who 'vanished' from the government's radar and laughed about avoiding taxes? I called a 'Criminal' and a 'Tax evader'?
No?
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Well, then I'm sorry. I must have gotten you confused with this other guy... a total asshole who had his head so far up his ass, he could see the back of his teeth. This guy was a real piece of work... so full of shit, it came out his ears. Sorry for the mix up... but, you shoulda seen this guy... he was a real tool.
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Still, a guy with more guns than the average gun shop and thousands upon thousands of rounds sound a bit more paraniod than me.

HEY!!! YOU NEED TO BACK RIGHT OFF NOW!!! If you need something to do today then I suggest you do something constructive like go save the world!!
Onelongsong is a good person and if you can't see that then fine, go toy with someone else! This is a f**king message board and people don't need this kind of shit! I really think you should reconsider your days activities!
I mean what is so wrong in your life that you feel the need to do this?

hailhailkc

Did I just step into the middle of a fight?

Jeanie

hailhailkc wrote:

Did I just step into the middle of a fight?

Hope not. I'd prefer not to fight with anyone. But I don't like the tone this is taking. And it is only a message board after all. So people need to calm the f**k down and stop hurling insults at each other or being scornful of each other. The whole point of debating is to understand the issue. Being horrible is just not really an effective way to go about being in the world.

Hopefully EVERYONE will calm down and play nice soon.

mammasan

hailhailkc wrote:

If you are here though, don't take it, because the Bible tells us that once you accept it, you are damned to hell.

Hell can't be that bad after all I work in advertising. Can't get any worse.

onelongsong

hailhailkc wrote:

Did I just step into the middle of a fight?

hi hhkc
long time no hear. no fight. just cosmo slandering again. i'll let you know what my attorney says about slander in a public forum. he's not worth replying to though. have a good night. i've got to fly.
ols

RavennaSeattle1911

i heard one in 5 in military now is an illegal alien and pretty soon half will be illegal and those troops dont give a damn about american culture or the people-you can thank bush and neocons i guess -globalists

Cosmo

hailhailkc wrote:

In response to Cosmo's earlier question...the mark of the beast as described by the Bible will be a mark placed on either the forehead or hand. I wouldn't worry about the Real ID card being the mark of the beast, but a lot of people think it's a start towards the real mark of the beast. An "opening act" if you will. A lot of people think RFID tags placed under the skin, or even a form of tattoo that is now currently available that can be scanned will be the mark of the beast.

The Bible also says you wont be able to buy or sell unless you have the mark of the beast.

It's coming, but pre trib Christians believe they won't be here to witness the mark of the beast. If you are here though, don't take it, because the Bible tells us that once you accept it, you are damned to hell.

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I agree... You know I'm not big on the Bible, but the thing is just creepy, anyway you look at it. I don't trust our government because they are politicians and I don't trust politicians... Republicans or Democrats, they are all politicians.
I can see it as a beginning. I can understand the possibility of it changing as the technology changes. Selling it to us as 'Safety'... embedding a small chip in kids, so parents can keep track of them in case they get lost or run away... the same way I have the vet place a chip in my cats. But, cats are cats, not people. In case my cats run off and end up in a shelter... one scan and my name pops up and I go down there to bring them home. That's good for me and my cats. The difference being, my cats are my pets and they are completely dependent on me. We are not our government's pets and we are not completely dependent upon our government leaders.
Why not just place a chip that a scanner can detect? If you scan, you are okay and can go about your business. If you don't scan... you don't belong here so the van comes by and picks you us to kick you out. Makes sense... if they sell it to us as security.
I don't like it because I do not want an intrusive government peering into my private life. If I fall under suspecion for anything... they can get a damn warrant and come looking for me... as the Constitution of my country guarantees me.

mammasan

RavennaSeattle1911 wrote:

i heard one in 5 in military now is an illegal alien and pretty soon half will be illegal and those troops dont give a damn about american culture or the people-you can thank bush and neocons i guess -globalists

First off the military does a background check when you enlist, so I highly doubt your claim. Second if they are enlisting in the military then they do give a shit about their country. No one is going to sign up to be in the military just for shits & giggles. Third, unless you have sources to support you claims, stop spreading stupid mis-information. There are alot of immigrants in the military, I highly doubt that that number is even as high as 1 in 5, because they love this country and it also offers them a fast track to citizenship.