Native Amricans

Dirtie_Frank
Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
edited October 2008 in A Moving Train
When is enough enough with no taxes being paid by the casinos on the reservation? I just want to know everyones opinion. I think that it is time these casinos start paying taxes and contributing. Before someone goes off and says we took their land,etc... These are mullti-billion corporations that do not contribute any tax dollars. It seems like lots of people want to tax corporations why not them too?
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    When is enough enough with no taxes being paid by the casinos on the reservation? I just want to know everyones opinion. I think that it is time these casinos start paying taxes and contributing. Before someone goes off and says we took their land,etc... These are mullti-billion corporations that do not contribute any tax dollars. It seems like lots of people want to tax corporations why not them too?
    do they use public services? after we stole their land do we police it?


    every casino I go too has better roads than public roads surrounding the area, leading me to believe they pay for that shit themselves. they seem to be doing just fine, why make them pay for shit they want nothing to do with?
  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    Commy wrote:
    do they use public services? after we stole their land do we police it?


    every casino I go too has better roads than public roads surrounding the area, leading me to believe they pay for that shit themselves. they seem to be doing just fine, why make them pay for shit they want nothing to do with?

    Most of the owners or whatever are not even 100% NA. With that thought if I am 1/4 African do should I get affirmative action?
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    98 CAA
    00 Virginia Beach;Camden I; Jones Beach III
    05 Borgata Night I; Wachovia Center
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    08 Camden I; Camden II; DC
    09 Phillie III
    10 MSG II
    13 Wrigley Field
    16 Phillie II
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    Most of the owners or whatever are not even 100% NA. With that thought if I am 1/4 African do should I get affirmative action?
    maybe a 1/4 of affirmatifve action, since your only having to deal with a 1/4 of the discrimination.
  • it takes a very spineless person to grudge native americans whatever little positive discrimination they get, given what has happened to them in the last 3 centuries. to my mind the annexation of the "new world" is the greatest crime in human history.
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  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    it takes a very spineless person to grudge native americans whatever little positive discrimination they get, given what has happened to them in the last 3 centuries. to my mind the annexation of the "new world" is the greatest crime in human history.
    yeah, our country was founded on genocide. Hard to move on from that.
  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    When is enough enough with no taxes being paid by the casinos on the reservation? I just want to know everyones opinion. I think that it is time these casinos start paying taxes and contributing. Before someone goes off and says we took their land,etc... These are mullti-billion corporations that do not contribute any tax dollars. It seems like lots of people want to tax corporations why not them too?

    I am so glad this view represents an insignificant minority.
  • j-bug
    j-bug Posts: 272
    i was about ready to get on my high horse with this but i'm glad that people see passed it.
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  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    I do not agree I have heard the argument and was wanting opinions. Maybe is hould have written that in my original post also after some research.

    Frivolous tax returns; “Native American Treaty.” This ruling emphasizes to taxpayers, promoters, and return preparers that there is no right to exemption from federal income tax for Native Americans under an unspecified “Native American Treaty.” Any return position based on an unspecified “Native American Treaty” has no merit and is frivolous. As a general rule, Native Americans are subject to federal income tax just like every other American
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    09 Phillie III
    10 MSG II
    13 Wrigley Field
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  • As a general rule, Native Americans are subject to federal income tax just like every other American
    no. its not fun being rendered a 4th class citizen in the land of your forefathers and then having to pay tax for it.
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  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    When is enough enough with no taxes being paid by the casinos on the reservation? I just want to know everyones opinion. I think that it is time these casinos start paying taxes and contributing. Before someone goes off and says we took their land,etc... These are mullti-billion corporations that do not contribute any tax dollars. It seems like lots of people want to tax corporations why not them too?

    Perhaps a better question to ask ourselves is why reservations feel the need to open these casinos in the first place.
  • sponger wrote:
    I am so glad this view represents an insignificant minority.
    haha... i am glad too.
    I have faced it, A life wasted...

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  • melodious
    melodious Posts: 1,719
    I think the o'jays sang that song!!! money, money, money...

    In truth, there are several reservations here...I do not think enough dollars could compensate for the loss of culture and molestation of land.
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  • Our nation has billions of dollars worth of minerals, natural gas,
    hydrothermal energy and forest resources. (Environmentally responsible
    use of course!) Native Americans have never been compensated for
    even a small fraction of this. The county where I reside in Colorado has
    produced more gold than the Alaska and California gold rushes combined
    with more deposits that were never touched by underground mining 100
    years ago. As far as I know, no local Native Americans were ever
    recompensed anything. Anyone who wastes their money gambling
    shouldn't be worried about who gets it anyway.
  • melodious
    melodious Posts: 1,719
    :) + :) + :)

    gambling isn't that bad when we look at an entire spectrum of such a word..

    we have to take some risks, but I do understand and appreciate your specific terms...

    peace...

    good sunday, to all..

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  • youngster
    youngster Boston Posts: 6,576
    When is enough enough with no taxes being paid by the casinos on the reservation? I just want to know everyones opinion. I think that it is time these casinos start paying taxes and contributing. Before someone goes off and says we took their land,etc... These are mullti-billion corporations that do not contribute any tax dollars. It seems like lots of people want to tax corporations why not them too?

    Leave the Native Americans alone. They've suffered enough over the years. Instead, start taxing the Catholic church on their land. That should be enough to clear more than half the national debt. Want a surplus in the economy? Start taxing universities in this country on their land. If you want universal healthcare for every American, then you can start taxing these institutions on their fiscal year income. All economical problems would be solved .
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  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    Start taxing universities in this country on their land.

    Don't most universities really heavily on state and federal subsidies? Doesn't make much sense to me to tax institutions that are already dependant on subsidies.

    If anything, tuitions will go up, making it even harder to pay one's way through school. That will lead to more grants and loans from the government.

    I'm just not sure how taxing universities is any kind of a solution. That is unless you mean private universities. But are there that many in this country?
  • youngster
    youngster Boston Posts: 6,576
    sponger wrote:
    Don't most universities really heavily on state and federal subsidies? Doesn't make much sense to me to tax institutions that are already dependant on subsidies.

    If anything, tuitions will go up, making it even harder to pay one's way through school. That will lead to more grants and loans from the government.

    I'm just not sure how taxing universities is any kind of a solution. That is unless you mean private universities. But are there that many in this country?

    I was talking more specifically about colleges like Harvard and MIT. I'm being geographically specific because I work in Cambridge MA in and around these two schools. The two universities combined own THOUSANDS of acres of land in this city. With the tax rate in MA being so high, I would think these schools would be able to contribute to the economy. Every neighbor around these schools have to pay taxes, but the school property and buildings are exempt. Harvard has upwards of $130 billion dollar endowment (money in the bank) yet their tuition goes up every year. It costs almost $40,000/year to attend Harvard. No matter how much money they get, the tuition will never go down. Now, I don't know about every university in this country, but I'm guessing schools like Princeton, Yale, Stanford, and Brown have endowments in and around this number. If anything, they can at least make a dent in trying to turn around this economical crisis.
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  • When is enough enough with no taxes being paid by the casinos on the reservation? I just want to know everyones opinion. I think that it is time these casinos start paying taxes and contributing. Before someone goes off and says we took their land,etc... These are mullti-billion corporations that do not contribute any tax dollars. It seems like lots of people want to tax corporations why not them too?

    Are you Fucking kidding me????

    Native Americans don't owe the US anything
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