How 'bout we just cut spending? Except then the Barack couldn't make good on all the fairy tale promises he's been making ...
Seriously. Raising taxes during an economic slowdown is such a horrendously bad idea I don't even know how anyone reasonable person could consider it with a straight face ...
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
How 'bout we just cut spending? Except then the Barack couldn't make good on all the fairy tale promises he's been making ...
Seriously. Raising taxes during an economic slowdown is such a horrendously bad idea I don't even know how anyone reasonable person could consider it with a straight face ...
You're right that we need to cut down spending not raise taxes, but the problem now is that Bush had 8 years of lower taxes but higher overall spending which has killed our deficit. Plus hes killed our housing market, stock market, tuition is going up, the dollar is down. I don't think raising taxes is smart either but it doesn't seem like the Government is generating enough money to operate.
I think if we get a democrat in office it will stimulate the economy even if taxes go up. Under Clinton we had the economic boom period of the Silicon Valley, dot com companys etc. I know both of my parents did a lot better in those times. My dad bought two houses and my Mom bought a condo. Then in 2004 the market dried up and my dad lost his job and can't sell his house. My Mom went back to school and now makes 90K a year but still can't afford to own a house in a good location.
I'll take higher taxes with a democrat then lower taxes with a republican anyday. Higher taxes does not mean less wealth if the economy is stimulated.
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Double Post. Internet has gotten slower under Bush too.
Raise my taxes for better Internet.
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You're right that we need to cut down spending not raise taxes, but the problem now is that Bush had 8 years of lower taxes but higher overall spending which has killed our deficit. Plus hes killed our housing market, stock market, tuition is going up, the dollar is down. I don't think raising taxes is smart either but it doesn't seem like the Government is generating enough money to operate.
I think if we get a democrat in office it will stimulate the economy even if taxes go up. Under Clinton we had the economic boom period of the Silicon Valley, dot com companys etc. I know both of my parents did a lot better in those times. My dad bought two houses and my Mom bought a condo. Then in 2004 the market dried up and my dad lost his job and can't sell his house. My Mom went back to school and now makes 90K a year but still can't afford to own a house in a good location.
I'll take higher taxes with a democrat then lower taxes with a republican anyday. Higher taxes does not mean less wealth if the economy is stimulated.
Bush killed the housing market and the stock market? Are you kidding? He doesn't have that kind of power.
Clinton was responsible for the dot.com boom? Was he also responsible for the ensuing dot.com bust? He doesn't have that kind of power, either.
The biggest factor in the current economic downturn is the subprime mortgage crisis, which has very little to do with the govt. It has more to do with douchebags taking on loans they couldn't afford, and predatory lenders letting them.
And you'll be hard-pressed to find any evidence of raised taxes stimulating a sluggish economy. It's not going to happen. In fact, it's going to be a disaster.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
And you'll be hard-pressed to find any evidence of raised taxes stimulating a sluggish economy. It's not going to happen. In fact, it's going to be a disaster.
Depends. If the increased tax revenue is used to fund public works projects that employ new workers who then also start paying taxes and buying stuff with their newly disposable income, then it could work. Just ask FDR.
Depends. If the increased tax revenue is used to fund public works projects that employ new workers who then also start paying taxes and buying stuff with their newly disposable income, then it could work. Just ask FDR.
Also aiding FDR: WWII.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
Our economy does usually boom during war time...except for under Bush.
Maybe your right that I can't blame Bush for everything but all I can go on is the personal experiences of the people around me and NOT ONE person is doing better now then under Clinton. NOT ONE without exaggeration.
You can disagree with me but Bush gets the blame imo for that. He is the leader of our nation.
Let's say Bush was running a sports team and bad stuff kept happening. There is no way people would accept the answer that its just a downtime things will recover. Its really the fault of the people who used to be in power not our fault etc. The guy running that team would be fired and would never get another job. (Unless your Isaiah Thomas. He is actually a very good comparison to Bush.)
You have to respond to bad luck and bad situations with solutions that turn things around. I feel Bush hasn't done enough to help the failing economy and giving us $600 in tax rebates is not enough. Though I have no problem cashing that check!
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I don't think anyone can stop a state of mind or reaction to an action from happening...ever. It's impossible. The system will self destruct first. If one compares the standard of living to the west as the model, an it then turns around and blows shit up and then tortures people just the same (worse in scale actually), then it's all just a deception based on lies. It's like saying were perfect, and better, so be like us.....Ooops!
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Maybe your right that I can't blame Bush for everything but all I can go on is the personal experiences of the people around me and NOT ONE person is doing better now then under Clinton. NOT ONE without exaggeration.
You can disagree with me but Bush gets the blame imo for that. He is the leader of our nation.
While we're at it, let's blame Bush for forest fires and hurricanes and tornadoes. They happened to our nation, too. And Bush is the leader, so ... must be his fault.
Economists will tell you this dirty little secret -- the president has very little control over the economy. It's like a rubber band ... if it stretches too far in one direction, it has to snap back the other direction. No ifs, ands or buts.
The last official recession in our economy occurred during the Clinton administration, btw. I don't blame him for that, but it's a fact.
Another aside ... I'm doing better now than I was eight years ago, financially. So I guess I'm the exception to your theory there.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
Our economy does usually boom during war time...except for under Bush.
Maybe your right that I can't blame Bush for everything but all I can go on is the personal experiences of the people around me and NOT ONE person is doing better now then under Clinton. NOT ONE without exaggeration.
You can disagree with me but Bush gets the blame imo for that. He is the leader of our nation.
Let's say Bush was running a sports team and bad stuff kept happening. There is no way people would accept the answer that its just a downtime things will recover. Its really the fault of the people who used to be in power not our fault etc. The guy running that team would be fired and would never get another job. (Unless your Isaiah Thomas. He is actually a very good comparison to Bush.)
You have to respond to bad luck and bad situations with solutions that turn things around. I feel Bush hasn't done enough to help the failing economy and giving us $600 in tax rebates is not enough. Though I have no problem cashing that check!
dude you need to hang out with different people. just about everyone I know, including myself, is doing a hell of a lot better now then I was 8 years ago. seriously you dont know anyone that is doing better. thats insane and very sad. tell your friends to get the GED and do something with your lives.
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Seriously. Raising taxes during an economic slowdown is such a horrendously bad idea I don't even know how anyone reasonable person could consider it with a straight face ...
for the least they could possibly do
You're right that we need to cut down spending not raise taxes, but the problem now is that Bush had 8 years of lower taxes but higher overall spending which has killed our deficit. Plus hes killed our housing market, stock market, tuition is going up, the dollar is down. I don't think raising taxes is smart either but it doesn't seem like the Government is generating enough money to operate.
I think if we get a democrat in office it will stimulate the economy even if taxes go up. Under Clinton we had the economic boom period of the Silicon Valley, dot com companys etc. I know both of my parents did a lot better in those times. My dad bought two houses and my Mom bought a condo. Then in 2004 the market dried up and my dad lost his job and can't sell his house. My Mom went back to school and now makes 90K a year but still can't afford to own a house in a good location.
I'll take higher taxes with a democrat then lower taxes with a republican anyday. Higher taxes does not mean less wealth if the economy is stimulated.
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7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
Raise my taxes for better Internet.
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
Bush killed the housing market and the stock market? Are you kidding? He doesn't have that kind of power.
Clinton was responsible for the dot.com boom? Was he also responsible for the ensuing dot.com bust? He doesn't have that kind of power, either.
The biggest factor in the current economic downturn is the subprime mortgage crisis, which has very little to do with the govt. It has more to do with douchebags taking on loans they couldn't afford, and predatory lenders letting them.
And you'll be hard-pressed to find any evidence of raised taxes stimulating a sluggish economy. It's not going to happen. In fact, it's going to be a disaster.
for the least they could possibly do
Also aiding FDR: WWII.
for the least they could possibly do
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Our economy does usually boom during war time...except for under Bush.
Maybe your right that I can't blame Bush for everything but all I can go on is the personal experiences of the people around me and NOT ONE person is doing better now then under Clinton. NOT ONE without exaggeration.
You can disagree with me but Bush gets the blame imo for that. He is the leader of our nation.
Let's say Bush was running a sports team and bad stuff kept happening. There is no way people would accept the answer that its just a downtime things will recover. Its really the fault of the people who used to be in power not our fault etc. The guy running that team would be fired and would never get another job. (Unless your Isaiah Thomas. He is actually a very good comparison to Bush.)
You have to respond to bad luck and bad situations with solutions that turn things around. I feel Bush hasn't done enough to help the failing economy and giving us $600 in tax rebates is not enough. Though I have no problem cashing that check!
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
I don't think anyone can stop a state of mind or reaction to an action from happening...ever. It's impossible. The system will self destruct first. If one compares the standard of living to the west as the model, an it then turns around and blows shit up and then tortures people just the same (worse in scale actually), then it's all just a deception based on lies. It's like saying were perfect, and better, so be like us.....Ooops!
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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While we're at it, let's blame Bush for forest fires and hurricanes and tornadoes. They happened to our nation, too. And Bush is the leader, so ... must be his fault.
Economists will tell you this dirty little secret -- the president has very little control over the economy. It's like a rubber band ... if it stretches too far in one direction, it has to snap back the other direction. No ifs, ands or buts.
The last official recession in our economy occurred during the Clinton administration, btw. I don't blame him for that, but it's a fact.
Another aside ... I'm doing better now than I was eight years ago, financially. So I guess I'm the exception to your theory there.
for the least they could possibly do
dude you need to hang out with different people. just about everyone I know, including myself, is doing a hell of a lot better now then I was 8 years ago. seriously you dont know anyone that is doing better. thats insane and very sad. tell your friends to get the GED and do something with your lives.