Unbiased Coverage...Not CNN or Fox

ledvedderman

suntzu98 wrote:

oh.....so your parents had that talk with you did they? Point is it is easy to attack a news outlet with which their ideology you do not agree with, however one can look at every news outlet and make the same assumption however they may want to. I would like to point out a few things if i might; The war is the war, we have a volunteer army it is a job the pay may suck and the thanklessness we show them, who would wanna do that? However they are in harms way with machine guns and tanks and grenades, those 32 students weren't in a war zone, they had no defense, no weapons, so to make comparsions to the war and this shooting is ludacris. Kieth Olbermann is a complete asshole why he has his own hour to spew the vomit dirrehea that comes out of that ex espn hacks mouth is beyond me. Thank you all I wanted to say.

So you would rather get your information from a former Inside Edition hack like Bill O?

suntzu98

I'd excpect that from a mostly democratic spot like Chicago, Ill.

PearlJamaholic

Heineken Helen wrote:

What was so stupid about that post? The poster was pointing out that it was pretty tough to survive the holocaust... this man DID... and yet he dies during part of his, possibly mundane, daily routine. I didn't see anything offensive. It's just ironic I guess. The man probably thought he'd survived so much horror that he would just pass away peacefully in his sleep at some stage... it's very sad :(

they compared school and/or work to the holocaust and what reads like they implied that its more dangerous. maybe i read it it wrong.


"You can survive the Holocaust but its going to work/school that you have to worry about"

so you dont have to worry about the holocaust?

ledvedderman

suntzu98 wrote:

I'd excpect that from a mostly democratic spot like Chicago, Ill.

since when is Chicago known as "central Illinois"? Maybe you should do a Google map on that one

ledvedderman

PearlJamaholic wrote:

they compared school and/or work to the holocaust and what reads like they implied that its more dangerous. maybe i read it it wrong.


"You can survive the Holocaust but its going to work/school that you have to worry about"

so you dont have to worry about the holocaust?

No. No. No. I think, no, I know, he is showing how ironic it is that this man survived the holocaust, but the thing in the end that does him in is him going to work.

HollisBrown

EDITORIAL
Too terrible for words
In the wake of such a horrific event as the Virginia Tech shootings, a respectful silence is best.
April 17, 2007

IN THE BIBLICAL Book of Job, the anguished hero is visited by three friends who attempt to comfort him by drawing airy and sententious lessons from his agonies. Of course, they end up adding to his troubles; Job endures not only the real pains of grief and sickness but the indignity of having his suffering milked for rhetorical effect.

If only it were true that Monday's mass murder on the campus of Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University was the kind of tragedy that moves us to quiet reflection. In fact, the shootings that killed more than 30 people and wounded nearly 30 others occasioned a blizzard of hasty conclusions, instant position-taking and the rehashing of old arguments. For the sake of the dead, for the sake of the living, and even for the sake of honoring this grim milestone — the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history — we should remember that there are times when silence is the best response.

Events like these are almost impossible to react to sanely. A group of people you don't know have been killed in a senseless crime. Too young to have established much of a past, they've been robbed of present and future; the weight of the offense, the rotten meaninglessness of it, makes it awkward not to have something to say.

So the ghastly death toll — perhaps inflicted by one man with a pair of semiautomatic handguns — becomes an obvious argument for enhanced gun control. Or, conversely, for the right to bear arms because Virginia Tech is a "gun-free zone," and the Virginia Legislature last year killed a bill that would have allowed students to carry guns on campus.

For those who support universities' in loco parentis functions, the school's apparently unconscionable delay in alerting the student body to the presence of a gunman on campus is at the heart of the tragedy. Then there's the male-violence angle, supported by a shooter's apparent rage at an ex-girlfriend. Most pernicious of all, perhaps, is the request to put the matter "into perspective."

"I have heard many such things," Job says. "Miserable comforters are ye all." No newspaper is in a position to criticize anybody for capitalizing on tragedy or taking convenient positions. There will be time for both in the days to come. But now is a time to respect, quietly, the tears and the pain of this terrible event.

PearlJamaholic

ledvedderman wrote:

No. No. No. I think, no, I know, he is showing how ironic it is that this man survived the holocaust, but the thing in the end that does him in is him going to work.

i think it should have been worded better. i can understand the point that he survived the holocaust then to die from something that seemed to be so unpredictable. but it did sound like he was comparing the holocaust to everyday work or school. thats my opinion.

The Champ

PearlJamaholic wrote:

i think it should have been worded better. i can understand the point that he survived the holocaust then to die from something that seemed to be so unpredictable. but it did sound like he was comparing the holocaust to everyday work or school. thats my opinion.

Yes, it could have been worded better, but it's still clear enough for everyone to understand...

biscuitsotoole

The Champ wrote:

Yes, it could have been worded better, but it's still clear enough for everyone to understand...

Very clear.

RainDog

suntzu98 wrote:

I do actually; it's in my fucking pants.

It's good to know your pants are fucking - 'cause I'd be surprised to hear that anything in them is.

Abuskedti

Heineken Helen wrote:

What was so stupid about that post? The poster was pointing out that it was pretty tough to survive the holocaust... this man DID... and yet he dies during part of his, possibly mundane, daily routine. I didn't see anything offensive. It's just ironic I guess. The man probably thought he'd survived so much horror that he would just pass away peacefully in his sleep at some stage... it's very sad :(

its like rain on your wedding day

Heatherj43

CNN, FOX and MSNBC all did report about this guy! I guess if you listen to the BBC, you missed that these other cable news did report about him. Even my local network news reported about this guy and his background.

Heineken Helen

The Champ wrote:

Yes, it could have been worded better, but it's still clear enough for everyone to understand...

Absolutely it was clear enough... there was no doubt in my mind what he meant and I still can't see how somebody could actually get offended thinking he was putting the holocaust down

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

i remember on 9/11 BBC was talking about car bombs and two other explosions that never happened in washington.

since then i dont really believe much of there garbage either.

its all crap.

Byrnzie

Come Back in Black wrote:

BBC unbiassed? Are you kidding me? They are off the wall liberal over there. There are many examples. One such example is how when they were tearing down the Sadam statue in the middle of bagdad and every network was showing all the Iraqies dancing in the streets live... the BBC just didn't broadcast it. How is that unbiassed?

That's a lie. They did show it, because I watched the BBC when they broadcast it. Why make shit up?

blackredyellow

suntzu98 wrote:

The BBC is the furthest left news organization out there, they hate the United States by the way, so maybe you love the BBC b/c you too also hate the United States? If so get the fuck out...we don't need or want you here, Remember when Eddie Vedder said if Bush gets elected again I'm gonna move to Canada I think you should take his advice seeing as how he still lives in West Seattle. Fox News is the only news outlet that reports with both dems and reps debating issues, ever period!

wow... people like you really do exist...

pjflea

Pretty much every news source has some bias. I think the annoying thing about FOX and CNN is that they are more interested in hype than actually reporting news. I like BBC some times, but some print material like the Economist and such, are often more reliable. You just have to wait a bit before an article comes out. Most sources like this have a website now, and I know that the current stories are accessible without a subscription from economist.com. (I don't work for them, but they're a credible source for school.)

MrBrian

Come Back in Black wrote:

BBC unbiassed? Are you kidding me? They are off the wall liberal over there. There are many examples. One such example is how when they were tearing down the Sadam statue in the middle of bagdad and every network was showing all the Iraqies dancing in the streets live... the BBC just didn't broadcast it. How is that unbiassed?

Firstly, that whole thing was staged. so it was not so much news as it was propaganda.

http://www.twf.org/News/Y2003/0411-Statue.html

Galaxie2X4

Keith Oberman and Jon Stewart is where I get my news

MtCanvas

The heading was not supposed to bring the emotional responses....the content of the post was! What an amazing story of a man. this should be the focus!

I guess I am a little out of my league here...as a Canadian I am getting a little fed up with CNN and FOX (that is ALL I meant!)

As the last post stated my 'American' news comes from Jon Stewart on Comedy Central!

To the memory of LL!