People Of Colour Only Good For Cleaning Toilets Or Washing Dishes...

CorporateWhore

And I've still argued that IQ can be increased with help, just as Sowell does.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell100102.asp

JOEJOEJOE

CorporateWhore wrote:

And I've still argued that IQ can be increased with help, just as Sowell does.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell100102.asp

Citing an article written by a black man in a Jewish newspaper......great strategy!

CorporateWhore

cornnifer wrote:

Well actually, even if the story of the Jewish leadership of the day being responsible for the death of Jesus is an historical accuracy (i believe it is), speaking as a Christian, i have to say "so what"! It was supposed to happen. And, frankly, again speaking as someone of Christian faith, it was for my benefit!
Couple that with the fact that Christ himself WAS a Jew, and i'm left with the thought that any "Christian" who harbors any resentment towards Jews for killing Jesus, who was Jewish, is pretty ridiculous.

Christ spoke against the scribes and pharisees, not the Jews as a whole. Furthermore, no Christian is right in resenting the Jews as we all crucified Christ through our sin, past present and future.

This is an absurd discussion and hasn't been an issue in 500 years.

deadnothingbetter

CorporateWhore wrote:

Christ spoke against the scribes and pharisees, not the Jews as a whole. Furthermore, no Christian is right in resenting the Jews as we all crucified Christ through our sin, past present and future.

This is an absurd discussion and hasn't been an issue in 500 years.

which is why i think cornnifer and i agree...

right?

CorporateWhore

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

Citing an article written by a black man in a Jewish newspaper......great strategy!

I'm seeking the truth. A lot of people have a preconceived notion that race has nothing to do with intelligence because if that is not the case, they feel as if Hitler won and people would find reasons to discriminate unjustly. But there is proof that race does have something to do with it, which I have cited in other posts.

And I do not support discrimination or violence. This idea that I should be pigeon-holed because I'm a white male who broaches a taboo topic is bullshit. There are legitimate scientists that have studied this topic and concluded: race is a factor in intelligence. This is where we start a discussion, not call one another names.

Collin

Whore, for someone who is not a racist you sure spend a lot of time trying to prove blacks and hispanics are stupid and lazy. Almost every thread you make is about race.

cornnifer

CorporateWhore wrote:

As a Jew, what do you make of genetic IQ differences given that studies have concluded that certain ethnic Jewish groups have higher IQs because of a genetic predisposition. These studies do not come from crackpots, but rather, they come from the Scientific American and The Cambridge Journal of Biosocial Science.

If it is possible for Jews to have inherited intelligence, how is it not possible for other races to have it?

What dou YOU make of the idea that i'm a white guy, and you are, i'll go out on a limb and say, a white guy, yet my IQ is probably 15 to 20 points higher than YOURS. Hmmm.
i'm not in the least bit bragging, mind you. i'm in no way being overly prideful. As i've already stated a couple of pages ago, IQ means absolutely cock and balls.

even flow?

Remember the good ole days of colours posing in jockey uniforms on your lawn and shining your shoes. Hey truthm, shouldn't they feel good about doing dishes.

blackredyellow

CorporateWhore wrote:

There are legitimate scientists that have studied this topic and concluded: race is a factor in intelligence.

I think that it maybe a correlation, but is definitely not part of the causation of intelligence levels.

If you take two black infant twins and give one to a drug-addict single mother and one to a middle/upperclass family who values hard work and education (doesn't matter the race of either situation), I could almost guarantee you that 20 years later the kid in the better home would be considered more intelligent.

JOEJOEJOE

CorporateWhore wrote:

I'm seeking the truth. A lot of people have a preconceived notion that race has nothing to do with intelligence because if that is not the case, they feel as if Hitler won and people would find reasons to discriminate unjustly. But there is proof that race does have something to do with it, which I have cited in other posts.

And I do not support discrimination or violence. This idea that I should be pigeon-holed because I'm a white male who broaches a taboo topic is bullshit. There are legitimate scientists that have studied this topic and concluded: race is a factor in intelligence. This is where we start a discussion, not call one another names.

I give you kudos for approaching your topics, but do you agree that with the easy access we are afforded via the internet, it is easy to find back-up for almost any position you may wish to take?

The white male has long been viewed as "the man", so of course, others will always try to keep you in-check, and I must say, I think those with the most advantages should be kept in-check.

I may not agree with your views, but I respect your right to present them, just as I respect others' right to disagree with you, which seems to be the norm.

To what do you attribute your views?.....schooling, upbringing, outside influences besides your family, specific events?....just curious.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

CorporateWhore wrote:

No one here has been able to contradict the statements I've made using arguments. You simply call me a racist with absolutely no information supporting your platitude bullshit.

Dude you said one race was smarter than the other according to some study..

What is that then? not racism?

You're surprised at your own stupidity and bullshit when people call you on it?

get a grip...how old are you?

Hope&Anger

CorporateWhore wrote:

This idea that I should be pigeon-holed because I'm a white male who broaches a taboo topic is bullshit. There are legitimate scientists that have studied this topic and concluded: race is a factor in intelligence. This is where we start a discussion, not call one another names.

Okay, here's a topic for discussion -- what is race? It's clear that you think that blacks are a race, and Latinos are a race, and Jewish people are a race. What about the Irish? Are they a separate race?

CorporateWhore

cornnifer wrote:

What dou YOU make of the idea that i'm a white guy, and you are, i'll go out on a limb and say, a white guy, yet my IQ is probably 15 to 20 points higher than YOURS. Hmmm.
i'm not in the least bit bragging, mind you. i'm in no way being overly prideful. As i've already stated a couple of pages ago, IQ means absolutely cock and balls.

Your IQ could be 100 points higher than mine for all I care.

It makes no difference when you're discussing averages.

JOEJOEJOE

Hope&Anger wrote:

Okay, here's a topic for discussion -- what is race? It's clear that you think that blacks are a race, and Latinos are a race, and Jewish people are a race. What about the Irish? Are they a separate race?

Irish is an ethnicity.

Ahnimus

I like stats, let's check some out.

Over the past 20 years, the visible
minority population in Canada has
nearly quadrupled, bringing increased
diversity, especially in Canada’s largest
cities. In 1981, foreign-born visible
minority men and women of prime
working age had higher employment
rates and lower unemployment rates
than Canadian-born non-visible minority
men and women. The situation
changed in the 1980s and 1990s as
employment rates dropped and unemployment
rates increased for both
visible and non-visible minority men.
Foreign-born visible minority men,
especially recent immigrants, saw their
labour market outcomes deteriorate
faster than Canadian-born non-visible
minority men. This gap in labour
market outcomes for men of prime
working age was largest in 1996, and
subsided somewhat by 2001. For
women, employment rates increased
for all except foreign-born visible
minorities although foreign-born visible
minority women were more highly
educated than most other women.
The gap in labour market outcomes
for foreign-born visible minorities may
be related to incidents of discrimination
or unfair treatment. According to the
Ethnic Diversity Survey, about 20% of
visible minorities aged 15 and over
said they had sometimes or often
experienced discrimination or unfair
treatment in the previous five years
because of their ethnicity, culture,
race, skin colour, language, accent or
religion. These incidents most often
occur at work or when applying for a
job or promotion.12 More research
needs to be done to pinpoint the
causes of the gaps in labour market
outcomes between visible minorities
and non-visible minorities.


Employment outcomes of
foreign-born visible minority
men deteriorated during the
1980s and early to mid-1990s
While in 1981 foreign-born visible
minority men aged 25 to 54 had better
employment and unemployment
rates than Canadian-born non-visible
minorities, the 1980s and early to mid-
1990s saw their employment situation
deteriorate more quickly than that of
other men of prime-working age.5
By 1996, a wide gap had developed
between foreign-born visible minority
men of prime-working age and Canadian-
born non-visible minority men.6
In 2001, this gap had narrowed compared
with 1996, but was still larger
than it had been in 1981.

http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepub/11-008-XIE/2004001/articles/6874.pdf

According to Juristat (Canada)

Out of 528 cases

25% of hate crimes were against Jews
17% against Blacks
11% against Muslims
10% against South Asians
9% against gay and lesbian
etc.. etc..

Another interesting tidbit

Data collection in the pilot survey included the two year period beginning in
January 2001 and ending in December 2002. Survey data indicate that there
was a significant, but short-lived impact on the number of hate crimes reported
to police following the September 11th terrorist attacks in the United States.
According to the pilot survey 15% of the hate crimes following the attacks
(September 11th, 2001 to December 31st, 2002) were associated by police
with events of September 11, 2001 and almost three quarters of these incidents
occurred within two months following the attack. Looking more closely at the
two month period following the attacks, there were three and a half times
more hate crimes recorded during these two months than there were during
the same two months the following year (232 versus 67).

58% of religious hate crimes are against Jews
26% against muslims

http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepub/85-002-XIE/0040485-002-XIE.pdf

I couldn't find anything specifically about Toronto. But I have spoken to many blacks about racism in Canada and most - probably reflecting the 80 - 90% - don't feel there is much discrimination in Canada. I don't have a lot of time to read more on this, but statscan is the place you'll want to look.

failedpersephone

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

Roses are reddish
Violets are blueish
If it wasn't for jesus
we'd mostly be Jewish!

hahahaaa...

that was funny...not wanting to get into this debate which oddly enough went from a discussion on why gardeners/food staff are Hispanic to the bible (WOAH LEAP!!) but just thought that deserved a "niiiice"

cornnifer

CorporateWhore wrote:

I'm seeking the truth. A lot of people have a preconceived notion that race has nothing to do with intelligence.

It isn't a precoceived notion. Race has absolutely NOTHING do do with intelligence and intellectual capacity and capbility. Socio-economic status, social circumstance, historical legacy, etc. do play a role however. Due to racism, different races find themselves at different levels of all these totem poles. Throw in the fact that IQ tests are culturaly biased anyway, and, abracafuckingdabra, you have your fucking 15v point average differential. Race and genetics have absolutely NOTHING to do with it.

THE TESTS ARE BIASED TO BEGIN WITH! i'm sure a really smart Black guy could write an IQ test that would land YOU on the short bus. Even with your intellectually superior white genes.

JOEJOEJOE

failedpersephone wrote:

hahahaaa...

that was funny...not wanting to get into this debate which oddly enough went from a discussion on why gardeners/food staff are Hispanic to the bible (WOAH LEAP!!) but just thought that deserved a "niiiice"

thanks!

Ahnimus

cornnifer wrote:

It isn't a precoceived notion. Race has absolutely NOTHING do do with intelligence and intellectual capacity and capbility. Socio-economic status, social circumstance, historical legacy, etc. do play a role however. Due to racism, different races find themselves at different levels of all these totem poles. Throw in the fact that IQ tests are culturaly biased anyway, and, abracafuckingdabra, you have your fucking 15v point average differential. Race and genetics have absolutely NOTHING to do with it.

THE TESTS ARE BIASED TO BEGIN WITH! i'm sure a really smart Black guy could write an IQ test that would land YOU on the short bus. Even with your intellectually superior white genes.

Actually, many tests would not be culturally biased for Canadian-born ethnic minorities and there are plenty of tests that are as non-bias as can be. Probably the Stanford-Binet being close. The differences in IQ appear to have more to do with social class than genetics, so I agree with you there.

cornnifer

Ahnimus wrote:

Actually, many tests would not be culturally biased for Canadian-born ethnic minorities and there are plenty of tests that are as non-bias as can be. Probably the Stanford-Binet being close. The differences in IQ appear to have more to do with social class than genetics, so I agree with you there.

Isn't the Stanford Binet more of a personality test?