Quebec wants a seperate hockey team for the next Olympics?

bubbamackdaddy69

I just read this today...Wow..this is just crazy...Quebec is a province in Canada and they have been wanting to seperate from this country for years now but aren't yet and now still want to get a seperate hockey team going for the next olympics..
I grew up in Quebec but was born in Ontario and live in Ontario now but am so sick of hearing about the Quebec seperation shit..and now before seperation they want to play in the olympics seperately..
I'm soo glad I don't live in Quebec anymore...they're just annoying..I've always wanted Quebec to stay in Canada but lately have been fed up and would be glad to say get the fuck out !
What do you guys think ???


HERE IS THE ARTICLE LINK

http://www.tsn.ca/canadian_hockey/news_story/?ID=182693&hubname=



Lawyer wants Team Quebec at the Worlds
Quebec

Canadian Press

11/2/2006 11:24:24 AM

QUEBEC (CP) - A well-known Quebec lawyer is urging Premier Jean Charest to get involved in helping to create a Team Quebec that would play in the 2008 world hockey championships.

Guy Bertrand says it would be fitting to have such a team because part of the 2008 tournament will be played in Quebec City.

Bertrand says Hockey Canada has told him Quebec can't have a team because it is not a country.

But the lawyer, who has embraced sovereignty again after a six-year flirt with federalism, says Quebec is a nation that has the right to be represented at international tournaments.

Part of the 2008 worlds will also be played in Halifax

rebornFixer

I think this is one the dumbest things I've ever read, and if someone like Ignatieff takes power, it would probably even happen.

RockinInCanada

However listen to guys like Brodeur and Lecavlier discuss the issue both have said in the past the issue is absurd and they would play for Canada as that is their country.....class acts both of these guys.....

bubbamackdaddy69

reborncareerist wrote:

I think this is one the dumbest things I've ever read, and if someone like Ignatieff takes power, it would probably even happen.

I totally agree with ya

bubbamackdaddy69

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

However listen to guys like Brodeur and Lecavlier discuss the issue both have said in the past the issue is absurd and they would play for Canada as that is their country.....class acts both of these guys.....

I've actually never heard that but I believe you of course.. and think it's a class act as well for them to play for Canada and not fucking Quebec

surferdude

It wouldn't bother me if Quebec had it's own team. As long as every Quebec born player had the option to play for Canada, and that playing for Quebec never prevented the player from playing for Canada in the future.

thankyougrandma

If Ignatieff take power, there's a chance he get my vote. But i fail to see the stupid link between Ignatieff and this story.

I don't give a shit about Quebec having a hockey team (it would make a damn great rivalry against the Canadian team though), but i laugh at everyone making this a dramatic situation, look at Soccer, it's being done for numerous "regions" that are not country. But yeah, there's place for more drama when it comes to Quebec.

BTW, again the disinformation is going fast, it's not about the olympics, it's about the next world championship, being held in Quebec, and it's an idea that is being put forward cause tickets sales is so slow. It won't even work.

RockinInCanada

bubbamackdaddy69 wrote:

I've actually never heard that but I believe you of course.. and think it's a class act as well for them to play for Canada and not fucking Quebec

It was discussed....lets see....during the summer I believe....both were interviewed on Sportsnet I think....nice to see...they also commented that the mentaility of French Canadian NHL players seems to want a united Canada.....therefore no on the seperation was the majority perspective on the matter....then they went on about the honour of wearing the Canadian jersey....was actually very refreshing....now I just wish these guys would play in Canada....lol

bubbamackdaddy69

surferdude wrote:

It wouldn't bother me if Quebec had it's own team. As long as every Quebec born player had the option to play for Canada, and that playing for Quebec never prevented the player from playing for Canada in the future.

I see your point about the options for players to play for Canada or Quebec but the point I hate is why should they have a seperate team?..If so..then why not Team Alberta or Team Manitoba ..you know ?

RockinInCanada

bubbamackdaddy69 wrote:

I see your point about the options for players to play for Canada or Quebec but the point I hate is why should they have a seperate team?..If so..then why not Team Alberta or Team Manitoba ..you know ?

Very valid point...one that was also discussed as being a pre-text for more useless dialogue...well the way Alberta feels about nationalism these days they may want their own team in 10 years....:).....j/k..

thankyougrandma

surferdude wrote:

It wouldn't bother me if Quebec had it's own team. As long as every Quebec born player had the option to play for Canada, and that playing for Quebec never prevented the player from playing for Canada in the future.

If you take international rules, i believe players who have represent their countries once, can't represent another country, it was seen when USSR explode, players who had previously represented USSR, had to play for Russia, or something like this. So Brodeur, Lecavalier and all those would probably have to play for Canada... not sure, also new "team" have to start over on the bottom of the ladder, but that might be only for the olympics, which is not the case in this story.

But it won't happen anyway, it's just another bad idea to make the ROC spit on Quebec, i hate those cause it always turn out to be a spitting contest.

thankyougrandma

bubbamackdaddy69 wrote:

I see your point about the options for players to play for Canada or Quebec but the point I hate is why should they have a seperate team?..If so..then why not Team Alberta or Team Manitoba ..you know ?

yeah why not eh? I doubt you'd be pissed off and would talk about "Fucking Alberta" if it would be the case...

rebornFixer

thankyougrandma wrote:

If Ignatieff take power, there's a chance he get my vote. But i fail to see the stupid link between Ignatieff and this story.

Oh, you didn't just call me stupid, Frenchie.

thankyougrandma

Rockin'InCanada wrote:

It was discussed....lets see....during the summer I believe....both were interviewed on Sportsnet I think....nice to see...they also commented that the mentaility of French Canadian NHL players seems to want a united Canada.....therefore no on the seperation was the majority perspective on the matter....then they went on about the honour of wearing the Canadian jersey....was actually very refreshing....now I just wish these guys would play in Canada....lol

You know better, of course Lecavalier won't go around saying he want to be part of a Quebec team, cause it would automaticly take him out of team Canada and we all know how Canadians act when it comes to this topic, you disagree with what Canadian say, you're a "fucking this" or "fucking that", i'm sure if a team Quebec would be made official, there wouldn't be a shortage of players.

thankyougrandma

reborncareerist wrote:

Oh, you didn't just call me stupid, Frenchie.

no i didn't, i said the link is stupid, i apologize if you misunderstood, it was a "botched joke" (best Kerry impressions)...

Sonja_S

bubbamackdaddy69 wrote:

Part of the 2008 worlds will also be played in Halifax

So what's the Haligonians' answer to that?

surferdude

I'd be interested in hearing who this lawyer thinks should be funding a Quebec hockey team.

rebornFixer

thankyougrandma wrote:

no i didn't, i said the link is stupid, i apologize if you misunderstood, it was a "botched joke" (best Kerry impressions)...

Just messin' with ya. For the record, I do think Ignatieff's own take on the situation is problematic, but not necessarly his more general idea to re-open the Constitution.

Drowned Out

I've been saying forever that Canada should get to send two teams to World Cups/Championships/Oly's. Even when we dont' win, we have a busload of great players left off the team. This isn't quite what I had in mind, but politics aside, I think it would actually be kinda cool....never going to happen tho.

TheVoiceInside

Just to add some precedence into the matter, Puerto Rico is a commonwealth of the US. What that means is that we are part of the US but not an official state. Yet we have an olympic team and our athletes can compete with PR or the US which ever they prefer. Something similar to what Quebec wants, the only difference is that Quebec wants to separate from Canada and Puerto Rico wants to join the US.....well at least be a part of it.

thankyougrandma

reborncareerist wrote:

Just messin' with ya. For the record, I do think Ignatieff's own take on the situation is problematic, but not necessarly his more general idea to re-open the Constitution.

fair enough about the political side, i'm a little bit on the nerves when it comes to this kind of thread... "fucking Quebec" included in the thread is not helping... so i didn't want to sound rude. I just don't like to see something important to me (Quebec situation in Canada) and a stupid lawyer proposition ,being mixed in the same topic...

qwerty1

This is an old story thats been done to death for 35 years. let it go!

thankyougrandma

TheVoiceInside wrote:

Just to add some precedence into the matter, Puerto Rico is a commonwealth of the US. What that means is that we are part of the US but not an official state. Yet we have an olympic team and our athletes can compete with PR or the US which ever they prefer. Something similar to what Quebec wants, the only difference is that Quebec wants to separate from Canada and Puerto Rico wants to join the US.....well at least be a part of it.

Same happen with Scotland, Ireland, Wales and some others... but when it comes to Quebec in Canada it's always a bit more dramatic, and ideas like that are always labelled as bad, fucking bad, or utterly fucking moronicly bad, so it's nothing new, but it's always frustrating.

rebornFixer

thankyougrandma wrote:

Same happen with Scotland, Ireland, Wales and some others... but when it comes to Quebec in Canada it's always a bit more dramatic, and ideas like that are always labelled as bad, fucking bad, or utterly fucking moronicly bad, so it's nothing new, but it's always frustrating.

Its frustrating for those of us who don't understand why Quebec cannot be distinctive (it already is), but within the Canadian context. I agree, the histrionics and drama around Quebec are not helpful. A lot of it comes from the Quebec side too, though. The point was well-taken ... Why couldn't Alberta have its own hockey team, then? People scoff at the notion, even though damn, we'd kick some ass.

bubbamackdaddy69

thankyougrandma wrote:

yeah why not eh? I doubt you'd be pissed off and would talk about "Fucking Alberta" if it would be the case...

Yeah I would be pissed off about Alberta or any other province wanting to have a seperate team..it's not just about the province Quebec..just what they wanna do..
Believe me..I'd say fuck Alberta if they wanted their own team etc...

polaris

reborncareerist wrote:

Its frustrating for those of us who don't understand why Quebec cannot be distinctive (it already is), but within the Canadian context. I agree, the histrionics and drama around Quebec are not helpful. A lot of it comes from the Quebec side too, though. The point was well-taken ... Why couldn't Alberta have its own hockey team, then? People scoff at the notion, even though damn, we'd kick some ass.

i'd say alberta is the most distinct province now ...

thankyougrandma

reborncareerist wrote:

Its frustrating for those of us who don't understand why Quebec cannot be distinctive (it already is), but within the Canadian context. I agree, the histrionics and drama around Quebec are not helpful. A lot of it comes from the Quebec side too, though. The point was well-taken ... Why couldn't Alberta have its own hockey team, then? People scoff at the notion, even though damn, we'd kick some ass.

If a well known lawyer in Alberta want to have a separate hockey team for Alberta for a future world championship in Edmonton, then let him speak up (until it does happen, we're only typing for fun), i'd see no scandal there... fucking Alberta... hehe.

A Quebec team would beat any other "provincial" team, in fact i think the real idea should be to have a "canadian" championship, that would be awesome... Quebec could rent goaltender to other province... to other fucking province i mean...

TheVoiceInside

thankyougrandma wrote:

Same happen with Scotland, Ireland, Wales and some others... but when it comes to Quebec in Canada it's always a bit more dramatic, and ideas like that are always labelled as bad, fucking bad, or utterly fucking moronicly bad, so it's nothing new, but it's always frustrating.

When I visited Montreal one of the moments that I remember the most was when I was in a taxi cab and that is all the taxi driver could talk about. He was really intense about separating from Canada. I could identify with him since i believe Puerto Rico should be independant. but hey... I understand how some people are very passionate and others are just fed up with the hole situation. The same things happens here everyday.

thankyougrandma

bubbamackdaddy69 wrote:

Yeah I would be pissed off about Alberta or any other province wanting to have a seperate team..it's not just about the province Quebec..just what they wanna do..
Believe me..I'd say fuck Alberta if they wanted their own team etc...

ooooo, great then, let's sing the national anthem together...
it goes like:

oh canada... terre de nos aieux... ton front... etc...

bubbamackdaddy69

thankyougrandma wrote:

fair enough about the political side, i'm a little bit on the nerves when it comes to this kind of thread... "fucking Quebec" included in the thread is not helping... so i didn't want to sound rude. I just don't like to see something important to me (Quebec situation in Canada) and a stupid lawyer proposition ,being mixed in the same topic...

I understand and don't wanna offend anyone.
Trust me..I've lived in Quebec for 16 years and want Quebec to stay but it gets annoying hearing about this all the time and get kinda fed up..My grandma and my sister which includes(brother in law, and 2 nieces) live in Quebec stillbut for the past few years have been pondering about moving accross the river to Ontario because of all this kinda stuff..that's what my Dad did when I was 16 with my family..
The point is that "Technically" Quebec is a province in Canada and should not have special treatment over any other province to have a seperate team.
I understand the cultural differences and languages trust me.. My mom is perfectly bilingual and grew up french and I actually went to a french school until grade 5 but then switched over to English..
Anyways I just don't think they deserve a "seperate team" just because they are Quebec.

thankyougrandma

bubbamackdaddy69 wrote:

I understand and don't wanna offend anyone.
Trust me..I've lived in Quebec for 16 years and want Quebec to stay but it gets annoying hearing about this all the time and get kinda fed up..My grandma and my sister which includes(brother in law, and 2 nieces) live in Quebec stillbut for the past few years have been pondering about moving accross the river to Ontario because of all this kinda stuff..that's what my Dad did when I was 16 with my family..
The point is that "Technically" Quebec is a province in Canada and should not have special treatment over any other province to have a seperate team.
I understand the cultural differences and languages trust me.. My mom is perfectly bilingual and grew up french and I actually went to a french school until grade 5 but then switched over to English..
Anyways I just don't think they deserve a "seperate team" just because they are Quebec.

I also have family in Quebec, and they're all staying... nobody's leaving, so go figure what's your point, oh and vast majority of the people i know are also bilingual, i am. Anyway i don't feel like going deep into this topic now, just keep conforting yourself (like most canadians) thinking that the national thing in Quebec will just disappear and his just stupid, if you feel this way i'm not the one who'll judge, but it's just wrong, cause it won't disappear, Canada need to make Quebec SIGN the Constitution. Take actions, otherwise this country will wake up someday with a province leaving, then believe me, there's one more that is lined up, but you can say fucking this and fucking that and fucking them all you want, it's just not resolving anything.

About the Quebec team i don't give a shit, if it ever happen i think it would be fun, but the stupid backlash coming from Canada would just be too much, so i'd rather see this proposal die.