definition of liberals vs conservatives
StuffnJunk
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here's what i'd say is the difference between the two:
let's say there is an incident where cops - white cops - beat the crap out of a black guy, or even kill a black guy (this happens every now and then in america)
conservatives will ALWAYS side with the white cops
liberals will ALWAYS side with the black guy
and it doesn't matter what the details of the incident are......even if the black guy was walking down the street minding his own business and cops shot him 800 times, conservatives will STILL say "hey, the cops are just doing their job. he matched the description of a criminal and he was resisting arrest, etc"
or, even if the black guy was running down the street stabbing old ladies and setting babies on fire, liberals will STILL say "the only reason the cops shot him is because he was black. if he had been a white frat boy in khaki slacks, they would have gently put cuffs on him and escorted him into the police car, etc"
just something i've noticed.
let's say there is an incident where cops - white cops - beat the crap out of a black guy, or even kill a black guy (this happens every now and then in america)
conservatives will ALWAYS side with the white cops
liberals will ALWAYS side with the black guy
and it doesn't matter what the details of the incident are......even if the black guy was walking down the street minding his own business and cops shot him 800 times, conservatives will STILL say "hey, the cops are just doing their job. he matched the description of a criminal and he was resisting arrest, etc"
or, even if the black guy was running down the street stabbing old ladies and setting babies on fire, liberals will STILL say "the only reason the cops shot him is because he was black. if he had been a white frat boy in khaki slacks, they would have gently put cuffs on him and escorted him into the police car, etc"
just something i've noticed.
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but i guess i get your point.
Basic Rule of Thumb... Never say 'Never'... and never say 'Always' when making generalizations.
Example:
Let's say a big Black Guy wearing a Heavy Raiders Jacket in the middle of Summer and all gangsta'd out or a psycho White Guy with a shaved head and a swastika tattoo on his chest walks up to you and starts wailing on your ass.
Do you blame him or accept his actions as normal?
What does that make you, Liberal or Conservative?
Hail, Hail!!!
you should see what happens when babbies get set on fire.
i miss psychos
You need to get out more and start viewing people as individuals instead of groups.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I agree.
When conservatives are screw-ups or failures, they know it's their own fault and responsibility.
When liberals are screw-ups of failures, it's society's fault and responsibility.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
why is it that the conservatives are screwing up everything right now, and the liberals are the ones who care?
Conservatives are the ones who usually get mixed up in scandals surrounding money... Liberals have scandals surrounding sex.
...
Except, recently... Jefferson was stashing money in a freezer and Haggert was having male genetailia stuffed up his butt. The whole thing is getting all screwed up.
Hail, Hail!!!
Well geez, thanks for letting us know. NOW I'm worried
I know... because the Conservatives spend their stolen money and buy liquor and boats and gambling junkets... and the Liberals have sex with women. That's the way it's supposed to be. We need to get back to the way it's supposed to be... It's turning into the fucking bizzarro world over here.
Hail, Hail!!!
must say i agree with cosmo here. there is no 'never' or 'always'....b/c it is entirely dependent on the situation at hand, whether a conservative or a liberal....at least imho.
bu - i've always been an independent.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
you forgot about the part where we bathe ourselves in texas oil...personally, i brush my teeth with the stuff
you also forgot us ALWAYS hating women, gays, muslims and jews.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
no one 'forgot'...that's just a given, seemed hardly necessary to point out.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
true...something else i LOVE, besides oil...incadecent light bulbs...
don't get me anywhere near those mercury laden death traps you people want to spring on me...if it's between me and the polar bear, sorry
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Better tell Scooter the pardons off then
'00 12 shows / '03 4 shows / '06 6 shows
'08 3 shows / '09 5 shows / '10 6 shows
actually, i like incandescent bulbs...;)
i have all these funky lights with all these differing sized bulbs, and yea..i just can't stand fluorescent light.
anyway, i really despise the term 'you people'......b/c it rarely ever, truly means what it insinuates.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
i use the term "you people" friendly here, because us cons feel as "us people" here
as far as the light bulbs go,,,i don't see how the new one's are more helpful to the environment...they have mercury in them. so you are replacing CO2 (which trees omit) for mercury...which is supposedly the worst thing since trans-fats.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
radiating
blue glow of my PC screen
lighting my living room.
Oh, sorry! I thought this was the poetry thread.
is it weird to sit alone, with no lights other than tv and computer?
my roommate thinks so...
too much light is obnoxious.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
i realize...and it's all in good fun. however, yea, in reality...i don't find them 'helpful' nor very informative, and you're quite right...the 'labels' do more harm than good imho. and hell, ever here...not all that useful. for 'cons' i am quite the liberal, same as out imn my reality...but i think for many lefties here, i am far too tame....so yea, a moderate with left-leaning tendencies perhaps?
in regards to the lightbulb issue, i honestly don't know quite enough about it to weigh in with an informed opinion.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
At home, I don't turn on the TV much, though. I prefer to tailor and filter my news as I see fit, on the internet.
let's just stop there and agree to agree
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
i LOVE to agree to agree......b/c especially here i find i am always suggesting to politely agree to disagree, so how novel! :cool:
anyhoo...back on topic, i truly believe when all try hard enough, we ALL can find some common ground....and tha'ts a start to progress.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
oh i totally agree...left, right, i think we have so much more in comon than we think, and despite what the media (and new media) would have us believe, ...when push comes to shove..i have confidence in our ability to come together.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Come Together
Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly
He got joo-joo eyeball he one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker he just do what he please
He wear no shoeshine he got toe-jam football
He got monkey finger he shoot coca-cola
He say "I know you, you know me"
One thing I can tell you is you got to be free
Come together right now over me
He bag production he got walrus gumboot
He got Ono sideboard he one spinal cracker
He got feet down below his knee
Hold you in his armchair you can feel his disease
Come together right now over me
He roller-coaster he got early warning
He got muddy water he one mojo filter
He say "One and one and one is three"
Got to be good-looking 'cause he's so hard to see
Come together right now over me
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
damn...gonna make me hug or something?
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
well, i *AM* a hugger...and i don't discriminate...conservative or liberals alike. a few of both from the board can attest to that.
but hell yes, if you are a fellow beatles lover too? you betcha.
one last *touchy, feely, warm and fuzzy* post...and i'll stop.......for now.
Imagine
John Lennon
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religon too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
Imagine no possesions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
In a brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say i'm a dreamer
But i'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
i'll hug ya if you can at least admit this is funny...from my point of view
Imagine there's no liberals
It's easy if you try
No Feminazi's
None of Billy's lies
No environmental wackos
Lying to our kids
You, you may not like Bill Clinton
Well, you're not the only one
Imagine the truth about the 80's
Even if you can
High schools without condoms
And no brand new health plan
Imagine all the people
Paying their own way
You, you may say I'm a dreamer
But, I'm not the only one
We should have listened to Rush Limbaugh
Then maybe George Bush might have won Bush I I think
Imagine Hillary baking cookies
I know it's very hard
No lesbians playing soldier
Or dragging tracks in the yard
What if Ronald Reagan
Could have had four terms
You, you may say I'm a dreamer
I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll read "See I Told You So"
Then the world will live as one
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days