Westboro Baptist Church will protest Amish Funerals.

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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Cosmo wrote:
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    Which proves that extremist views and political party affiliation is not an absolute. That's the point we are both making, right?

    100% correct.
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    wow... that church is full of sick bastards.... if they have such a problem with Rendell, shouldn't they be protesting at events that he is at, not at some amish funeral.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Here is an explanation for you. I'll try to put it in the best words I can.

    This is a misguided group of individuals. 80% or more of their organization are related. That implies to me that their views are primarily the result of family brainwashing. At some point a single member of their family tree conjured these radicals perspectives and taught them to their children as the basis of Christianity.

    Over time a few in solidarity joined the Phelps in their religious radicalism. But it mostly boils down to an inherited belief system. Look up Prussian Blue for another example of this type of thing. This phenomena can also be compared to Muslim Extremism.
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  • truroute
    truroute Posts: 251
    Cosmo wrote:
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    Which proves that extremist views and political party affiliation is not an absolute. That's the point we are both making, right?

    The reason i singled out liberals in the first post is because they are the ones on this board that always jump to the defense of 'freedom-fighters', 'terrrrrrists', suicide bombers....err i mean freedom fighters w/ no other options....and the like.

    Not trying to start a "political debate", more of a "i want to understand why you think the way you do because to me you sound like you're trying extremely hard to impress ppl on this board" debate. *whew*
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    truroute wrote:
    The reason i singled out liberals in the first post is because they are the ones on this board that always jump to the defense of 'freedom-fighters', 'terrrrrrists', suicide bombers....err i mean freedom fighters w/ no other options....and the like.

    Not trying to start a "political debate", more of a "i want to understand why you think the way you do because to me you sound like you're trying extremely hard to impress ppl on this board" debate. *whew*

    I've yet to see anyone here defend a "terrrrrist"
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  • truroute
    truroute Posts: 251
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I've yet to see anyone here defend a "terrrrrist"

    Hmmm. Maybe you dont read the same thread i do.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    truroute wrote:
    Hmmm. Maybe you dont read the same thread i do.

    No. You just IMPLY that people are defending the terrorists because they don't agree with you.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    truroute wrote:
    Hmmm. Maybe you dont read the same thread i do.

    Often times people take my statements like that above as a defense to the people in question.

    Personally, I dislike all religion, expecially radical religions like the Phelps. I'm just trying to make some sense out of it. Rather than calling them labels and running a brush of evil paint across them, I try to figure out the root of their motivation. By no means to I support their church.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I can't stand those stupid WBC fuckers. Did anyone see the video where the interviewer hit on Fred Phelps?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF5mfG0vO8o
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  • truroute
    truroute Posts: 251
    ledvedderman wrote:
    No. You just IMPLY that people are defending the terrorists because they don't agree with you.

    When people give reason and rational as to why others kidnap/blowup/ decapitate/ bomb/ whatever. I dont think i have to IMPLY jackshit.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    truroute wrote:
    When people give reason and rational as to why others kidnap/blowup/ decapitate/ bomb/ whatever. I dont think i have to imply jackshit.

    Yes we explain WHY the terrorists hate America and attack us, therefor you imply we side with the terrorists? Give me a break.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Yes we explain WHY the terrorists hate America and attack us, therefor you imply we side with the terrorists? Give me a break.

    now that's just plain crazy talk...why find the root of a problem when you can blame liberals for everything....
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    truroute wrote:
    When people give reason and rational as to why others kidnap/blowup/ decapitate/ bomb/ whatever. I dont think i have to IMPLY jackshit.

    just because people talk about reasons why terrorists or whoever do shit, doesn't mean that they are jumping to the defense of them. What is wrong with trying to learn why fucked up people do screwed up stuff?
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    inmytree wrote:
    now that's just plain crazy talk...why find the root of a problem when you can blame liberals for everything....

    You're right. We should just leave it up to others to tell us they hate us "Just for being Americans"...
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  • truroute
    truroute Posts: 251
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Yes we explain WHY the terrorists hate America and attack us, therefor you imply we side with the terrorists? Give me a break.

    You really like that word imply dont you? I didnt say you 'sided' w/ anyone. Find another stone to stand on please.
  • truroute
    truroute Posts: 251
    inmytree wrote:
    now that's just plain crazy talk...why find the root of a problem when you can blame liberals for everything....


    Again, you guys love to gang up on people that dont agree w/ your ideals. I did not 'blame liberals' for anything. RTFT
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    truroute wrote:
    You really like that word imply dont you? I didnt say you 'sided' w/ anyone. Find another stone to stand on please.

    Who is implying anything? (Yes, in cases like yours, I like to use the word imply, because that's what youre doing when you say)

    "they (liberals) are the ones on this board that always jump to the defense of 'freedom-fighters', 'terrrrrrists', suicide bombers...."

    Yes, you didn't say we "sided" with the terrorists, just that we "defend" them, and how is that different in your eyes?
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  • truroute
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    blackredyellow wrote:
    just because people talk about reasons why terrorists or whoever do shit, doesn't mean that they are jumping to the defense of them. What is wrong with trying to learn why fucked up people do screwed up stuff?

    There is nothing wrong w/ that at all. And for the most part, i understand and agree w/ the reasons that some people give.

    I posted this article, then wondered if someone would provide a reason, in a defensive stance, as to why the baptist church does this.

    Apperently someone got thier butt hurt.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    truroute wrote:
    The reason i singled out liberals in the first post is because they are the ones on this board that always jump to the defense of 'freedom-fighters', 'terrrrrrists', suicide bombers....err i mean freedom fighters w/ no other options....and the like.

    Not trying to start a "political debate", more of a "i want to understand why you think the way you do because to me you sound like you're trying extremely hard to impress ppl on this board" debate. *whew*
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    Trying to figure out WHY someone would go through all the trouble of flying a hi-jacked plane into an office building is a tough proposition. And trying to figure that out is NOT siding with the terrorist.... just as trying to figure out WHY a gunman would shoot unarmed school girls is NOT sympathizing with the shooter.
    ...
    And you cannot equate the fighters in Iraq with terrorists. They are living in an occupied country. Iraq and terrorism have nothing in common except that the actions there are creating more and more people willing to figure out some way of getting a nuclear device and detonating it over here.
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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Cosmo wrote:
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    And you cannot equate the fighters in Iraq with terrorists. They are living in an occupied country. Iraq and terrorism have nothing in common except that the actions there are creating more and more people willing to figure out some way of getting a nuclear device and detonating it over here.

    True, at least with regards to the Iraqi fighters. The foreign fighters are there with different motives.

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