good to know al-Qaida is equal oppurtunity murderers

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

_FiveAgainstOne_ wrote:

Yeah, we are deliberately targetting innocent civilians. Have you heard of Abu Ghraib?

In fact, how about you just read this article...

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070730/hedges

learn something new, huh...

BULLSHIT. Do you even know the definition of deliberate?

Abu Ghraib is fucking bullshit and should not exist, but the people sent their are at least suspected insurgents/terrorists. Once again, not a DELIBERATE attempt to target innocent Iraqi civilians. try again.

And what the fuck did that article prove? That US soldiers under stress of an IED reacted by spraying bullets everywhere? is it wrong? yes. is it unprofessional? yes. Is it murderous? yes. Is it a DELIBERATE attempt to target innocent civilians? no. In most of the cases stated its a very stupid and sloppy way of defending oneself in a FUCKING WARZONE and cracking under pressure. There are also isolated cases of soldiers straight up raping and murdering innocent civilians, but there is no logical, stretegic reason this would be official American military doctrine as this would go directly against the goals they are trying to achieve.

Contrast the above with Al-qaida. They deliberately plan and execute attacks on civilians without regard for American or Gov't presence in the area. These TERRORIST actions are fully supported by Al-Qaida hierarchy, and the main goal of these attacks are to inflict the maximum number of INNOCENT CIVILIAN CASUALTIES.

Any logical person can see that there is no comparison.

Look at the situation from a logical, objective viewpoint, not someone who has swallowed up piles of internet propaganda. I can't believe some people can recognize mass media such as FOX news as conservative propaganda, and then walk straight into the buzzsaw of leftist propaganda without ever doubting it. Sheep with different sheopards. Be sensible.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

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Carlos D

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

http://gorty.1490wkvt.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/chicken-hawk.jpg

Funny that there's no one praising Geroge Bush for increasing sanctions on the Burmese government this week or sticking it to the Chinese by awarding the Dalai Lama the Congressional medal.I'm not suggesting in any way that Bush is a great leader but he does do some good.

PaperPlates

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Freedom to live in the place you grew up in. Imposing personal beliefs on others is seldom noble.

How you don't see the irony of this statement in cunjunction with implying its acceptable because "one mans terrorism is another man's freedom fighter" is scary and hilarious at the same time.

Is he not "imposing personal beliefs" when he blows up someone because they don't live life the way he wants??

Some women in those countries aren't too happy with "the place they grew up in" and want change. But them getting blown up by a nutjob is somehow not the nutjob's fault. Strange view.

Unless of course I misunderstand your statements.

PaperPlates

MrSmith wrote:

BULLSHIT. Do you even know the definition of deliberate?

Abu Ghraib is fucking bullshit and should not exist, but the people sent their are at least suspected insurgents/terrorists. Once again, not a DELIBERATE attempt to target innocent Iraqi civilians. try again.

And what the fuck did that article prove? That US soldiers under stress of an IED reacted by spraying bullets everywhere? is it wrong? yes. is it unprofessional? yes. Is it murderous? yes. Is it a DELIBERATE attempt to target innocent civilians? no. In most of the cases stated its a very stupid and sloppy way of defending oneself in a FUCKING WARZONE and cracking under pressure. There are also isolated cases of soldiers straight up raping and murdering innocent civilians, but there is no logical, stretegic reason this would be official American military doctrine as this would go directly against the goals they are trying to achieve.

Contrast the above with Al-qaida. They deliberately plan and execute attacks on civilians without regard for American or Gov't presence in the area. These TERRORIST actions are fully supported by Al-Qaida hierarchy, and the main goal of these attacks are to inflict the maximum number of INNOCENT CIVILIAN CASUALTIES.

Any logical person can see that there is no comparison.

Look at the situation from a logical, objective viewpoint, not someone who has swallowed up piles of internet propaganda. I can't believe some people can recognize mass media such as FOX news as conservative propaganda, and then walk straight into the buzzsaw of leftist propaganda without ever doubting it. Sheep with different sheopards. Be sensible.

But..........but...........but.............America is da Debil!!!!

RolandTD20Kdrummer

PaperPlates wrote:

How you don't see the irony of this statement in cunjunction with implying its acceptable because "one mans terrorism is another man's freedom fighter" is scary and hilarious at the same time.

Is he not "imposing personal beliefs" when he blows up someone because they don't live life the way he wants??

Some women in those countries aren't too happy with "the place they grew up in" and want change. But them getting blown up by a nutjob is somehow not the nutjob's fault. Strange view.

Unless of course I misunderstand your statements.

So have you looked at both sides of the equation or just your equation?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Fallujah got incinerated.

Fallujah was a flat out turkey shoot.

I guess that one was an oops.

PaperPlates

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

So have you looked at both sides of the equation or just your equation?

Have you? Im well aware of both sides views.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

PaperPlates wrote:

Have you? Im well aware of both sides views.

Do you see justification in killing?

Thecure

even flow? wrote:

Gun or bomb? I guess that depends on where you live and how big a statement you want to make.

She was advised to use a helicopter and decided on the truck. Is it just me who pays attention to when leaders or exleaders are in town the security that follows them? You know so if they want to get to the target that it may be troublesome or even impossible. Oh that's right Musharoff who has had attempts on his life and is the leader travels with a pack of security. So why didn't she. Did she think she was returning to Eden or Pakistan. That same Pakistan that is about two months from imploding on itself.

If your target is one person than you don't need a bomb. by saying that the use of a gun or a bomb depends on where you live is really sad for me because i think that there is no hope.

even flow?

Thecure wrote:

If your target is one person than you don't need a bomb. by saying that the use of a gun or a bomb depends on where you live is really sad for me because i think that there is no hope.

When you strap yourself up with explosives, I would have to hazzard a guess that there is no hope. Or you are not an independent thinker.

PaperPlates

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Do you see justification in killing?

This is like a bad merry go round. Im an awful person because I see some justification in our current cause, however much I disagree with HOW its being done matters not to you, but somehow YOUR justification of the "other guy" killing is okay. Have you or have you not justified their killing of our people???? In my mind, saying its okay because of what we've done in the past is exactly that. Justifying killing.


Other than who you support, how are we really any different?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

PaperPlates wrote:

This is like a bad merry go round. Im an awful person because I see some justification in our current cause, however much I disagree with HOW its being done matters not to you, but somehow YOUR justification of the "other guy" killing is okay. Have you or have you not justified their killing of our people???? In my mind, saying its okay because of what we've done in the past is exactly that. Justifying killing.


Other than who you support, how are we really any different?

One side is forcefully occupying a foreign country to justify the spread of it's own intentions. That's the difference I see.