Hillary Clinton will unite the republican party.

t206

duplicate post, sorry

t206

cornnifer wrote:

Likely. The same can be said for any of the republican candidates. Thats EXACTLY where we're headed, however, if democrats nominate clinton. If you never believe another word i say, believe this.

Please read up on Ron Paul then.....BIG difference between him and ANY other Republican.

cornnifer

t206 wrote:

Please read up on Ron Paul then.....BIG difference between him and ANY other Republican.

i know enough about RP to know a couple of things. One, i'm not a supporter, and two, he stands about a snowballs chance in hell of recieving the republican nomination for elmentary school class rep, let alone president for the United States. He is completely unviable.

t206

cornnifer wrote:

i know enough about RP to know a couple of things. One, i'm not a supporter, and two, he stands about a snowballs chance in hell of recieving the republican nomination for elmentary school class rep, let alone president for the United States. He is completely unviable.

This country needs to wake up...the pesidential election is NOT the same as the vote for American Idol. People need to vote for who they believe in, NOT who they "think is viable" it saddens me that people base their vote on who "can win"

DixieN

I'm not sure anything can unite the Republican party, it's too splintered and polarized. The best Republicans can hope for is for John McCain to get the nomination. If he doesn't get it, it's pretty much over for the party until 2012. No moderate Republican is going to vote for Huckabee and no right wing Republican is going to vote for Romney. Democrats won't vote for any of them, really, although out of the three, again, McCain might get some votes. He holds some positions that might make sense to them. Independents? They figure more into the Democratic race, I believe than into the Republican one.

t206

DixieN wrote:

I'm not sure anything can unite the Republican party, it's too splintered and polarized. The best Republicans can hope for is for John McCain to get the nomination. If he doesn't get it, it's pretty much over for the party until 2012. No moderate Republican is going to vote for Huckabee and no right wing Republican is going to vote for Romney. Democrats won't vote for any of them, really, although out of the three, again, McCain might get some votes. He holds some positions that might make sense to them. Independents? They figure more into the Democratic race, I believe than into the Republican one.

Any TRUE republican would vote for Ron Paul.

cornnifer

DixieN wrote:

I'm not sure anything can unite the Republican party, it's too splintered and polarized. The best Republicans can hope for is for John McCain to get the nomination. If he doesn't get it, it's pretty much over for the party until 2012. No moderate Republican is going to vote for Huckabee and no right wing Republican is going to vote for Romney. Democrats won't vote for any of them, really, although out of the three, again, McCain might get some votes. He holds some positions that might make sense to them. Independents? They figure more into the Democratic race, I believe than into the Republican one.

With all due respect, you're absolutely wrong about this. The republican voter will vote for ANY of the republican candidates before they vote clinton. Moderates may not like Huckabee, but he IS republican and he IS NOT hillary. Right wingers may not prefer Romney, but again, he IS NOT hillary. Like the OP stated, HILLARY will unite republicans. They don't need one of their own to do that.

cornnifer

t206 wrote:

Any TRUE republican would vote for Ron Paul.

Dude, i'm not trying to be a butthole, but what republican have YOU been talking to? Paul's only real talking point is the Iraq war which he claims to be vehemently against. The Iraq war is the one issue republicans seem to agree on AND THEY SUPPORT THE SHIT OUT OF IT! i think what you meant to say is NO true republican would vote for RP.

Commy

I really hope the republican party gets united. WE could use MORE gov't spending, more war, more tax cuts for the rich, more destruction of our environment, less health care, more police, more violence against the working class, more phone taps, more secret gov't programs, more wire tapping, less freedom, less money more beurocracy and less participation in our frail democracy.

macgyver06

JamMastaE wrote:

democrat,republican.

there is no fucking difference,only in appearance not in policy,it's a fucking facade!! a puppet show for all the morons who think they have a say.

how do you not see this?

how do people let themselves be duped by these silver-spooned devils?

Hillary is an evil cunt that doesn't give two shits about you or this country!she is just another boot-licking servant for those who really run shit.And that goes for all the republicans too.(save Ron Paul)

and all the zombies can scream conspiracy as they struggle to maintain a blissful ignorance.but shit is ready to start crashing down around you and we will see if you can maintain your slumber in the midst of a very rude awakening.

when shit goes down..i got your back

DriftingByTheStorm

MrSmith wrote:

yeah yeah yeah. the sky is falling, we're all gonna die, fight the power, bla bla bla. actually i do think the shit is gonna hit the fan sooner or later (it always does), but I'm not to the point where i think its time to riot in the streets just yet. besides, no real change will happen until it does, so im kinda looking forward to it. Crisis brings focus. I'm just trying to get myself setup as a warlord of a small well defended settlement for when the radiated zombies and raiders start ravaging the wasteland.

I'm telling you doomsayers, forget investing in gold. You need to be investing in ammo, radiation suits, and canned goods!


(wow that post really evolved as i wrote it!)

MrSmith,

Do you really buy the status quo as something more than a hack-job fabrication?

I'm not saying you have to put your hat on and go for 911 truth and JFK paranoia ... but some healthy skepticism goes a long way.

You really believe that any of those politicians give more than half a diarrheal shit about your well being?

Not only are promises of "universal" healthcare simply placations to get you to pick one of two false choices ... they want you to pick from both sides ...

one side gets them the war and restrictive policies on personal liberties,

and when you get sick of that, the other side gives them the added bonus of socialized services which give them your money ... with which they are free to start more wars, that they can profit from.

And no that is not conspiracy theory.
That IS how the world works. And it is pretty much that simple.

Simple.
Placate the the simple people. Keep them "content" so they don't ask questions about what the big boys are really doing. The big boys, the ones who unethicaly put you in a house you couldn't afford, took your money then, will take your house from you soon, and who will take any wealth you may have happened to save, and all that you will acquire in the future by the value which falls from your dollar each time they print up another dollar to hand out to you your "free" consolations.

Read these two posts

where i pasted an essay by Alan Greenspan BEFORE he was bought off.

Don't think he "changed his mind" and put up the "conspiracy crap". He knew the truth, and he sold out for power. Plain and simple.

The right to live truly free has been corrupted and stolen by the large money interests, and the american people still think that the peoples fight is a fight between McCain and Hillary. As if EITHER of them will lead us to salvation.

My friends, the entire field (imho, save one) is nothing more than the PR department of a big machine that just wants you to smile and do your little bobble-head dance.

:mad:

jlew24asu

macgyver06 wrote:

when shit goes down..i got your back

you two make a perfect couple.

macgyver06

jlew24asu wrote:

you two make a perfect couple.

hey i will stay out of the elementary school camera work you do...and you stay out of my posts

JamMastaE

fragileblake wrote:

If you can't see a profound difference in the judges that Bush appointed and the judges that Clinton appointed you are fucking delusional. Thats on top of other issues like education, college funding and other issues that don't seem to get much traction with people who like to quote "revolutionary" lyrics. Have fun doing whatever you're doing to make a difference, I'll be working in state politics for the party that "isn't different from republicans" to try to make sure that schools have adequate funding and consumers are protected.

if you think that the policy and agenda Clinton had is any different from what Bush is doing you are the one that is delusional my friend.stop falling for this WWF style FAKE OPPOSITION! Clinton was only laying the ground for Bush to do what he has done,just as Bush is laying ground for the next scum-bag that takes office.They all work toward the same "final goal".

and don't go jumping on your high horse just yet,i do plenty for "the cause".I am a patriot and i love my country!!

education? that's funny.we are scrapping the bottom of the barrel as far as education goes.we were once the most educated country in the world,now we are at the bottom of the list as far as industrialized nations go,BUT!!!,that is because it is a deliberate dumbing down.Ignorant morons are a lot easier to subjugate.

beachdweller

cornnifer wrote:

Its beginning to lool like the democrats just may be stupid enough to do just that. Any one of the republican candidates, (yes, even Huckabee) beats hillary clinton. i guarantee it. If the democrats nominate clinton THEY LOSE. Hands down. If every single registered democrat in the country show up to vote for hillary in the general (which will not happen), she STILL loses. She has just a little above ZERO independant support. She will even lose some of the democrat vote to the republican candidate. Factor in the almost guaranteed candidacy of a third party or independant that always hurts the democratic candidate much more than it does the republican, and SHE HAS NO CHANCE OF WINNING. NONE. i don't care how badly bush has messed shit up. Hillary will not win a general election. Bet everything you have on that.

Republicans wish this was true, and will go down hard still spewing this rhetoric, but no way Huckabee beens any Democrat, he even scares other Republicans, Libertarians especially, and Independents. McCain would be good competition, but will be easy to attack for becoming Bush's lacky, Romney will keep many evangelicals home, Guliana doesn't even have a chance, and Thompson is a joke at best.

It'll be a Democrat in the White House, or worst case scenario, Mike Bloomberg.

Best case scenario Obama wins, that will be a big blow to the Washington establishment on both sides of the aisle.

slightofjeff

beachdweller wrote:

Republicans wish this was true, and will go down hard still spewing this rhetoric, but no way Huckabee beens any Democrat, he even scares other Republicans

If you really think Hillary is a shoo-in to get elected against any Repub, you're going to be very, very disappointed.

Every Republican on Earth will vote for Huckabee if it's a choice between him and Hillary. Every single one. Of this, there is no doubt.

I think you are grossly underestimating the right's unadulterated hatred of Hillary. They will come out to vote against her in droves. In droves.

Best case scenario Obama wins, that will be a big blow to the Washington establishment on both sides of the aisle.

DO you really believe this? He's a corporate candidate, just like the rest of them. Don't buy the rhetoric. It will be business as usual.

beachdweller

slightofjeff wrote:

If you really think Hillary is a shoo-in to get elected against any Repub, you're going to be very, very disappointed.

Every Republican on Earth will vote for Huckabee if it's a choice between him and Hillary. Every single one. Of this, there is no doubt.

I think you are grossly underestimating the right's unadulterated hatred of Hillary. They will come out to vote against her in droves. In droves.



DO you really believe this? He's a corporate candidate, just like the rest of them. Don't buy the rhetoric. It will be business as usual.

The karl rove spin machine hates Hillary, you forget that republicans are followers, as show by doing everything they idiot in office told them to do until Dem's took their power from them in congress, through Dem's don't really have any power with their current numbers in congress.

Once it's a national dem vs repub race, the republicans can lie, cheat, and steal all they want, they will not be able to run from their record under Bush.

I would say more republicans will stay home instead of vote, than come together against the wrong candidate. They Hillary hatred thing is spin, it's a joke, it's the same ol bs, afraid to take on the tough questions and debate what's important, let's just rag on a candidate for months, years instead. bush is president because Karl Rove is a marketing and manipulative genius, not because he is in anyway competent.

I'm ranting, we can revisit this in November when the republican party is embarrassed, and finally get's the reality that THEY are furthest from what Americans truely want and need.

quick addition: no one on the Republican side, except Ron Paul, will change a thing. In fact I accept a lot of the same from the, none of them can claim to be for change.

Oh, and Chuck Norris is an idiot, though he can still kill us all with a glance, lol

cornnifer

beachdweller wrote:

Best case scenario Obama wins, that will be a big blow to the Washington establishment on both sides of the aisle.

For democrats, its the ONLY case scenario. i'm telling you very assuredly that hillary beats noone, not even huckabee, in a general election. period.

Cosmo

MrSmith wrote:

The republicans are divided between christian conservatives, libertarians, and elite wall street types, among others. the evangelicals take Huckabee or Thompson, the libertarian types favor McCain or Paul, and the big money is behind Romney.

The Huckabee guys would never back the others , especially social liberals like Romney and Giuliani. The less religious types wont back Huckabee/Thompson. The corporations might flee the party if anyone but Romney wins. The whole republican party is falling apart at the seams.

luckily, Hillary is gonna win the democratic nomination. she's the republican party's savior. They will unite together to take her down. She is too hated.

Republican in the white house in '09.

...
So... is it wise to vote for the candidate who says he wants to change the Constitution to bring it in line with God's Standards... because of hatred for the other candidate? Shouldn't Americans be more interested in uniting America... than their own political party?

DixieN

slightofjeff wrote:

If you really think Hillary is a shoo-in to get elected against any Repub, you're going to be very, very disappointed.

Every Republican on Earth will vote for Huckabee if it's a choice between him and Hillary. Every single one. Of this, there is no doubt.

I think you are grossly underestimating the right's unadulterated hatred of Hillary. They will come out to vote against her in droves. In droves.

I hate to burst bubbles, but there are at least two of Republicans I know who wouldn't want to associate themselves with Huckabee. So, I think we can pretty much put to rest your statement that every single Republican will vote for him in a choice between him and Hillary. But, I don't think that's a choice we're going to have to worry about. Have you seen the caucus results lately? Large parts of the right do dislike Hillary, but the right wingers are not the majority in this country.

http://letters.salon.com/news/feature/2008/01/18/huckabee_connections/permalink/56430d22e6e453765fb92296e45e8b57.html