i have a problem with a confederate flag

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  • I'm pretty sure it's not illegal to fly the jolie rouge, or Jolly Roger, on your vessel. It's free speech. Free speech doesn't go out the window when yer riding in your boat or car.

    I would prefer to fly my Vatican flag though. It's good luck ;)
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  • I'm pretty sure it's not illegal to fly the jolie rouge, or Jolly Roger, on your vessel. It's free speech. Free speech doesn't go out the window when yer riding in your boat or car.

    I would prefer to fly my Vatican flag though. It's good luck ;)
    yeah but its kinda like yelling "fire!" in a crowded theatre. Free speech doesnt cover that.

    i could see it being an old law that never got taken off the books or something.
  • Dylan StoneDylan Stone Posts: 1,145
    scb wrote:
    Of course, I just found out I was spreading lies on another thread about how many calories are in a Red Lobster biscuit, so someone may want to actually confirm the pirate flag claim as well. ;) It's just what I heard. :)


    Lying about a Red Lobster biscuit were you?

    Was that because they advertise on the Rush Limbaugh show (or at least they used to!) ??

    :D
  • dangerboydangerboy Posts: 1,569
    Yes and no. You don't have the freedom to fly a hate speech flag. If you flew a flag that said "Kill the Jews" the government could and would force you to take it down.

    The line is muddy, and for these flags (confederate and swastika), it's an often-tested area. So far, the courts are saying it is protected speech. But again, in this case that the OP is talking about, no one is trying to take it down. It's just that he or she is saying they find it offensive.

    old thread, i know, but this is just wrong. the government defends the rights of the kkk to assemble and scream kill the jews all the time, by having police protection at their events. that's the thing about free speech: it's universal. unless you're making a direct threat to an individual, you can say whatever you want to, no matter how idiotic or racist it is.

    oh, and don't lump the confederate flag in with swastikas. that's pure bullshit. none of the ancestors i had that fought and died in the war between the states EVER owned a slave. they didn't fight for the right to keep slaves, or organize to wipe out the black race.

    fun fact: in 1860 in north carolina, only 3% of around 100,000 landowners had slaves. 97% didn't.


    ebay isn't evil people are


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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    dangerboy wrote:
    old thread, i know, but this is just wrong. the government defends the rights of the kkk to assemble and scream kill the jews all the time, by having police protection at their events. that's the thing about free speech: it's universal. unless you're making a direct threat to an individual, you can say whatever you want to, no matter how idiotic or racist it is.

    oh, and don't lump the confederate flag in with swastikas. that's pure bullshit. none of the ancestors i had that fought and died in the war between the states EVER owned a slave. they didn't fight for the right to keep slaves, or organize to wipe out the black race.

    fun fact: in 1860 in north carolina, only 3% of around 100,000 landowners had slaves. 97% didn't.

    Yeah but some during that time had no problems with lynchings though.

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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    So the stereotype is true?

    Seriously I have more of a problem with the schools and post offices in this country flying Mexican flags as those are tax-payer funded institutions. And they get away with it so I don't see how you have a real complaint. Besides it isn't like there is a such thing as a trailer owners association to back you. Maybe the guy doesn't like his neighbors, either way it is his business whether we agree with him or not.
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    See, the thing to do here is not to call for government to intervene. Freedom of speech and all that, and the woman has right to do it.

    What you should do is buy a Black Power flag twice as large as her flag and hang it outside YOUR house :-)
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    digster wrote:
    See, the thing to do here is not to call for government to intervene. Freedom of speech and all that, and the woman has right to do it.

    What you should do is buy a Black Power flag twice as large as her flag and hang it outside YOUR house :-)

    Yeah but that would only lead to more confrontations.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    g under p wrote:
    Yeah but that would only lead to more confrontations.

    Peace

    True, but having grown up in the South, it's hard for me to buy the argument that it's simply about 'state's rights.' The Civil War wasn't as simple as being "about slavery", but it also wasn't so complicated that that was not a primary aspect. Someone who flies a Confederate flag should be confronted.

    Free speech is a constitutional right, but there's also nothing unconstiutional, whether through word or deed, about me saying that the free speech you're proclaiming sucks.
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