i'm for affirmative action...

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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Those who are for affirmative action, support racism and discrimination.

    Plain and simple.

    It's clear as crystal and plain as day.
  • surferdude wrote:
    Players sure do go through an interview process, it's called try-outs. The goal of every business is the same as every NBA team, that is to be as successful as possible. Now after an interview process why do you accept so easily that the better basketball player is on average black, but the better business person can't be caucasian. It seems you believe there is some either physical, mental or cultural basis for a black personto be a better ball player, but you don't offer this same respect to a caucasian person and business. You come into this with so many preconcieved and racist notions that it makes it hard to deal with.

    This arguement would stand up IF you could prove that there has been a systematic exclusion or disadvantagement of non-blacks in the NBA draft and overall talent evaluation/scouting. In the early 60's, the league was about 80% white and about 20% black. At present, those figures are reversed, but I don't think you can prove that it's due to a conspiracy to exclude whites from the NBA.

    Also, the MVP of the league has been the same white guy the past two years.
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  • Alex_CoeAlex_Coe Posts: 762
    surferdude wrote:
    What did you think a thread about affirmative action would discuss? Affirmative action is by it's very definition a form of racism.


    You're right.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    cornnifer wrote:
    They draft the best players. period.


    And affirmative action is in direct opposition to this type of thinking. You hire based on color instead of ability...seems racist to me.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    No, for the most part AA gives minorities an advantage only when all other factors are equal.


    Sure it does. You really think all factors are equal between any 2 people?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    Alex_Coe wrote:
    Dammit, I knew this thread was going to become something about "racism".

    "Well, you don't agree with me, so you must be racist."

    Hooray.

    Yep, only took to Post #8.
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  • If we don't stop trying to make up for shit in our past (or ASKING for that kind of thing) we'll never advance as a society. Calling Al Sharpton a 'nigger' does as much harm as an underqualified student getting into college because of his skin color.
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  • I'm not for it at all really...Kinda reverse racism...I'm a white dude and if a black dude gets a job over me because he is more qualified then great..that's fair...but if he gets it because he's black and less qualified that's just fucking moronic.
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  • LesbelgesLesbelges Posts: 434
    I'm not for AA because I feel it is a form of racism with "good intentions"

    Besides, I'm the first generation to live in the US, why should I be affected by what Americans did before me? I'm not responsible!

    On the other hand, to the guys saying that their chances in landing a job or getting into a university should not be affected by what their ancestors did because you didn't actually do anything. I agree to a certain point, but the idea is that the exploitation of blacks in the past has allowed you to be where you are at today. It made your great great great grandparents better off, and this wealth was past on to you. And even if it wasn't passed on to you, you can argue that the current wealth of the US comes directly from the slavery (of course not all of it), and that blacks should be compensated for it.

    My personal opinion is that you should be rewarded based on your performance, whether it's work, NBA, or schools.
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  • Thorns2010Thorns2010 Posts: 2,201


    Also, the MVP of the league has been the same white guy the past two years.

    Yeah, but he is from Canada....so he's not like.....a 'real' white guy!

    :D;)
  • scw156scw156 Posts: 442
    Thorns2010 wrote:
    Yeah, but he is from Canada....so he's not like.....a 'real' white guy!

    :D;)


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  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Roll Model wrote:
    can anyone talk me out of this?

    i was just thinking bout it, and i am totally for it, i see it as a good thing. but it was recently thrown out in michigan.

    no argument has swayed my view, thought i'd see what ya'll thought
    since you all are so opinionated :)

    affirmative action feeds groups like the KKK and arien nation. notice how many under 25 have swastika tattoos. why; because affirmative action breeds hate. a white student can work hard and graduate top in their calss but the minority gets the scholorships.
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