those skeptical of the briggs myers test, please go to the link i posted in post #27 and take THAT test.
Ok, I went to that site. In the first section, there are 4 choices.
The first is either "Act first, think/reflect later," or "Think/reflect first, then Act."
What are the circumstances? How much time do I have to respond? How much is at stake?
Second set of choices: "Feel deprived when cutoff from interaction with the outside world," or "Regularly require an amount of "private time" to recharge batteries." YES!!!! To both!
Third set: "Usually open to and motivated by outside world of people and things," or "Motivated internally, mind is sometimes so active it is "closed" to outside world." Again, yes to both. It depends on my mood, and it's not predominantly one or the other.
Fourth set: "Enjoy wide variety and change in people relationships," or "Prefer one-to-one communication and relationships." Yet AGAIN, both!
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
OMG!! I'm like George W Bush :eek: :( But I guess Mother Teresa isn't bad.
I think I need to lie down...
ISFJ
Introverted 78
Sensing 25
Feeling 38
Judging 1
The primary desire of the Protector Guardian is to be of service to others, but here "service" means not so much furnishing others with the necessities of life (the Provider's concern), as guarding others against life's pitfalls and perils, that is, seeing to their safety and security. There is a large proportion of Protectors in the population, perhaps as much as ten percent. And a good thing, because they are steadfast in their protecting, and seem fulfilled in the degree they can insure the safekeeping of those in their family, their circle of friends, or their place of business.
Protectors find great satisfaction in assisting the downtrodden and can deal with disability and neediness in others better than any other type. They go about their task of caretaking modestly, unassumingly, and because of this their efforts are not sometimes fully appreciated. They are not as outgoing and talkative as the Providers, except with close friends and relatives. With these they can chat tirelessly about the ups and downs in their lives, moving (like all the Guardians) from topic to topic as they talk over their everyday concerns. However, their shyness with strangers is often misjudged as stiffness, even coldness, when in truth these Protectors are warm-hearted and sympathetic, giving happily of themselves to those in need.
Their quietness ought really to be seen as an expression, not of coldness, but of their sincerity and seriousness of purpose. Like all the Guardians, Protectors have a highly developed puritan work ethic, which tells them that work is good, and that play must be earned-if indulged in at all. The least hedonic of all types, Protectors are willing to work long, long hours doing all the thankless jobs the other types seem content to ignore. Thoroughness and frugality are also virtues for Protectors. When they undertake a task, they will complete it if at all humanly possible; and they know the value of material resources and abhor the squandering or misuse of these resources. Protectors are quite content to work alone; indeed, they may experience some discomfort when placed in positions of authority, and may try to do everything themselves rather than insist that others do their jobs.
With their extraordinary commitment to security, and with their unusual talent for executing routines, Protectors do well in many careers that have to do with conservation: curators, private secretaries, librarians, middle-managers, police officers, and especially general medical practitioners. To be sure, the hospital is a natural haven for them; it is home to the family doctor, preserver of life and limb, and to the registered nurse, or licensed practical nurse, truly the angels of mercy. The insurance industry is also a good fit for Protectors. To save, to put something aside against an unpredictable future, to prepare for emergencies-these are important actions to Protectors, who as insurance agents want to see their clients in good hands, sheltered and protected.
President George HW Bush and Mother Teresa are examples of Protector Guardian style.
A
"We have to change the concept of patriotism to one of “matriotism” — love of humanity that transcends war. A matriarch would never send her own children off to wars that kill other people’s children." Cindy Sheehan --- London, Brixton, 14 July 1993 London, Wembley, 1996 London, Wembley, 18 June 2007 London, O2, 18 August 2009 London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012 Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 06 June 2017
If the myers-briggs test was developed by a housewife and her daughter based on the work of Carl Jung, obviously it is backed up by psychological theory because Jung's work is psychological. One does not need formal "training" in order to become quite educated on a topic. I personally have a grade 10 background, and yet I'm quite self educated without credentials.
You may have some of the qualities of the "enfj, enfp or esfp". However, personality typing is based on preferences towards one or another function even when slight. Each type you listed here comparing yourself with are types with a natural preference towards "feeling" (ie: the "f" in each code means "feeling" compared to the "t" in the code you got in this test which refers to a preference towards making one's decisions based on logical thinking)
I'm familiar with your posts, hippiemom. It's quite clear to me you prefer methods that are rational and logical over methods that are "feely" and alogical. Therefore you fit in the the "t" type distinctly moreso than the "f" personality types. Do you disagree with having a preference towards logic decision making?
I personally find it scary that my own boyfriend has the same personality type that 69charger has! No offense, 69charger!
About the feeling and thinking thing. So much of life cannot simply be explained by 'words'. Logic, to me, means having a reasonable explanation for something. But explanations can only be expressed by words which are very limited in the first place. Feelings and emotions are often discredited for not being logical when actually they often have more truth than can be explained by language. Just as logic can be reached by flawed reasonings and disinfo, emotions can be biased and flawed in the same way. One way isn't better than the other. They are just simply different approaches and a good balance between both is probably best. But I will say, I always trust my own feelings and I put a lot of faith into the wordless wonders buzzing all around and through us.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
OMG Bill Clinton is an ESFJ. Dunno what to think about that.
Guardian Provider
Provider Guardians take it upon themselves to arrange for the health and welfare of those in their care, but they are also the most sociable of all the Guardians, and thus are the great nurturers of established institutions such as schools, businesses, churches, social clubs, and civic groups. Wherever they go, Providers take up the role of social contributor, happily giving their time and energy to make sure that the needs of others are met, that traditions are supported and developed, and that social functions are a success.
Providers are very likely more than ten percent of the population, and this is very fortunate for the rest of us, because friendly social service is a key to their nature. Highly cooperative themselves, Providers are skilled in maintaining teamwork among their helpers, and are also tireless in their attention to the details of furnishing goods and services. They make excellent chairpersons in charge of social events. They are without peer as masters of ceremonies, able to approach others with ease and confidence, and seemingly aware of what everyone's been doing. And they are outstanding hosts or hostesses, able to remember people's names, usually after one introduction, and always concerned about the needs of their guests, wanting to insure that all are involved and provided for.
Providers are extremely sensitive to the feelings of others, which makes them perhaps the most sympathetic of all the types, but which also leaves them rather self-conscious, that is, highly sensitive to what others think of them. Because of this Providers can be crushed by personal criticism, and will work most effectively when given ample appreciation both for themselves personally and for the service they give to others. This is not to say that Providers are afraid to express their own emotional reactions. They are quick to like and dislike-and don't mind saying so-tending to put on a pedestal whatever or whoever they admire, and to come down hard on those people and issues they don't care for.
In their choice of careers, Providers may lean toward sales and service occupations. They have such pleasant, outgoing personalities that they are far and away the best sales reps, not only regularly winning sales contests, but earning seniority in any sales group within an organization. Observing Providers at work in a sales transaction reveals clearly how this type personalizes the sale. They are visibly-and honestly-concerned with their customer's welfare, and thus the customer is not simply buying the product, but is buying personally from the Provider. This same characteristic causes them to be good in many people-to-people jobs, as teachers, clergy, coaches, social workers, office receptionists, and so on. Providers seldom become a source of irritation in the workplace; on the contrary, they are unflagging in their devotion to their company, and show such personal loyalty to their immediate superiors that they make invaluable personal secretaries.
President and Chief Supreme Court Justice Willam Howard Taft is an example of a Provider Guardian.
"Rock and roll is something that can't be quantified, sometimes it's not even something you hear, but FEEL!" - Bob Lefsetz
You are:
very expressed introvert
moderately expressed intuitive personality
moderately expressed feeling personality
moderately expressed perceiving personality
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
So, I have just retaken this test and I get the same profile. The only difference is the change in the percentages, but intuition is always way above the rest, which I am surprised about. I guess I really should trust my instincts more instead of over-analysing!
Your Type is
INFJ
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Judging
Strength of the preferences %
56 75 38 33
About the feeling and thinking thing. So much of life cannot simply be explained by 'words'. Logic, to me, means having a reasonable explanation for something. But explanations can only be expressed by words which are very limited in the first place. Feelings and emotions are often discredited for not being logical when actually they often have more truth than can be explained by language. Just as logic can be reached by flawed reasonings and disinfo, emotions can be biased and flawed in the same way. One way isn't better than the other. They are just simply different approaches and a good balance between both is probably best. But I will say, I always trust my own feelings and I put a lot of faith into the wordless wonders buzzing all around and through us.
I totally agree. I am predominantly a "feeler" and therefore I also put a lot of faith into my emotions and the 'wordless wonders buzzing all around and through us'!
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I totally agree. I am predominantly a "feeler" and therefore I also put a lot of faith into my emotions and the 'wordless wonders buzzing all around and through us'!
Somehow, I knew you would. You also have a distinct ability to express your feelings into words and it always gets me excited to read an emotion I have previously been unable to explain so clearly myself. Sometimes you make me wanna say 'THAT'S IT EXACTLY!!!!!'
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Comments
Yep - I think it was the exact test. At least we're consistent
Take my hand, my child of love
Come step inside my tears
Swim the magic ocean,
I've been crying all these years
The first is either "Act first, think/reflect later," or "Think/reflect first, then Act."
What are the circumstances? How much time do I have to respond? How much is at stake?
Second set of choices: "Feel deprived when cutoff from interaction with the outside world," or "Regularly require an amount of "private time" to recharge batteries." YES!!!! To both!
Third set: "Usually open to and motivated by outside world of people and things," or "Motivated internally, mind is sometimes so active it is "closed" to outside world." Again, yes to both. It depends on my mood, and it's not predominantly one or the other.
Fourth set: "Enjoy wide variety and change in people relationships," or "Prefer one-to-one communication and relationships." Yet AGAIN, both!
I think I need to lie down...
ISFJ
Introverted 78
Sensing 25
Feeling 38
Judging 1
The primary desire of the Protector Guardian is to be of service to others, but here "service" means not so much furnishing others with the necessities of life (the Provider's concern), as guarding others against life's pitfalls and perils, that is, seeing to their safety and security. There is a large proportion of Protectors in the population, perhaps as much as ten percent. And a good thing, because they are steadfast in their protecting, and seem fulfilled in the degree they can insure the safekeeping of those in their family, their circle of friends, or their place of business.
Protectors find great satisfaction in assisting the downtrodden and can deal with disability and neediness in others better than any other type. They go about their task of caretaking modestly, unassumingly, and because of this their efforts are not sometimes fully appreciated. They are not as outgoing and talkative as the Providers, except with close friends and relatives. With these they can chat tirelessly about the ups and downs in their lives, moving (like all the Guardians) from topic to topic as they talk over their everyday concerns. However, their shyness with strangers is often misjudged as stiffness, even coldness, when in truth these Protectors are warm-hearted and sympathetic, giving happily of themselves to those in need.
Their quietness ought really to be seen as an expression, not of coldness, but of their sincerity and seriousness of purpose. Like all the Guardians, Protectors have a highly developed puritan work ethic, which tells them that work is good, and that play must be earned-if indulged in at all. The least hedonic of all types, Protectors are willing to work long, long hours doing all the thankless jobs the other types seem content to ignore. Thoroughness and frugality are also virtues for Protectors. When they undertake a task, they will complete it if at all humanly possible; and they know the value of material resources and abhor the squandering or misuse of these resources. Protectors are quite content to work alone; indeed, they may experience some discomfort when placed in positions of authority, and may try to do everything themselves rather than insist that others do their jobs.
With their extraordinary commitment to security, and with their unusual talent for executing routines, Protectors do well in many careers that have to do with conservation: curators, private secretaries, librarians, middle-managers, police officers, and especially general medical practitioners. To be sure, the hospital is a natural haven for them; it is home to the family doctor, preserver of life and limb, and to the registered nurse, or licensed practical nurse, truly the angels of mercy. The insurance industry is also a good fit for Protectors. To save, to put something aside against an unpredictable future, to prepare for emergencies-these are important actions to Protectors, who as insurance agents want to see their clients in good hands, sheltered and protected.
President George HW Bush and Mother Teresa are examples of Protector Guardian style.
A
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London, Brixton, 14 July 1993
London, Wembley, 1996
London, Wembley, 18 June 2007
London, O2, 18 August 2009
London, Hammersmith Apollo (Ed solo), 31 July 2012
Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
INTP
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
44 38 1 56
You are:
* moderately expressed introvert
* moderately expressed intuitive personality
* slightly expressed thinking personality
* moderately expressed perceiving personality
- Antwerp '06, Nijmegen '07, Werchter '07
About the feeling and thinking thing. So much of life cannot simply be explained by 'words'. Logic, to me, means having a reasonable explanation for something. But explanations can only be expressed by words which are very limited in the first place. Feelings and emotions are often discredited for not being logical when actually they often have more truth than can be explained by language. Just as logic can be reached by flawed reasonings and disinfo, emotions can be biased and flawed in the same way. One way isn't better than the other. They are just simply different approaches and a good balance between both is probably best. But I will say, I always trust my own feelings and I put a lot of faith into the wordless wonders buzzing all around and through us.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Another habit says its long overdue
Another habit like an unwanted friend
I'm so happy with my righteous self
Extroverted 67
Sensing 1
Feeling 75
Judging 67
I did the one on post #27 and got ESFP so go fig.
http://keirsey.com/personality/sjef.html
http://typelogic.com/esfj.html
OMG Bill Clinton is an ESFJ. Dunno what to think about that.
Guardian Provider
Provider Guardians take it upon themselves to arrange for the health and welfare of those in their care, but they are also the most sociable of all the Guardians, and thus are the great nurturers of established institutions such as schools, businesses, churches, social clubs, and civic groups. Wherever they go, Providers take up the role of social contributor, happily giving their time and energy to make sure that the needs of others are met, that traditions are supported and developed, and that social functions are a success.
Providers are very likely more than ten percent of the population, and this is very fortunate for the rest of us, because friendly social service is a key to their nature. Highly cooperative themselves, Providers are skilled in maintaining teamwork among their helpers, and are also tireless in their attention to the details of furnishing goods and services. They make excellent chairpersons in charge of social events. They are without peer as masters of ceremonies, able to approach others with ease and confidence, and seemingly aware of what everyone's been doing. And they are outstanding hosts or hostesses, able to remember people's names, usually after one introduction, and always concerned about the needs of their guests, wanting to insure that all are involved and provided for.
Providers are extremely sensitive to the feelings of others, which makes them perhaps the most sympathetic of all the types, but which also leaves them rather self-conscious, that is, highly sensitive to what others think of them. Because of this Providers can be crushed by personal criticism, and will work most effectively when given ample appreciation both for themselves personally and for the service they give to others. This is not to say that Providers are afraid to express their own emotional reactions. They are quick to like and dislike-and don't mind saying so-tending to put on a pedestal whatever or whoever they admire, and to come down hard on those people and issues they don't care for.
In their choice of careers, Providers may lean toward sales and service occupations. They have such pleasant, outgoing personalities that they are far and away the best sales reps, not only regularly winning sales contests, but earning seniority in any sales group within an organization. Observing Providers at work in a sales transaction reveals clearly how this type personalizes the sale. They are visibly-and honestly-concerned with their customer's welfare, and thus the customer is not simply buying the product, but is buying personally from the Provider. This same characteristic causes them to be good in many people-to-people jobs, as teachers, clergy, coaches, social workers, office receptionists, and so on. Providers seldom become a source of irritation in the workplace; on the contrary, they are unflagging in their devotion to their company, and show such personal loyalty to their immediate superiors that they make invaluable personal secretaries.
President and Chief Supreme Court Justice Willam Howard Taft is an example of a Provider Guardian.
i got the same
You are:
very expressed introvert
moderately expressed intuitive personality
moderately expressed feeling personality
moderately expressed perceiving personality
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Your Type is
INFJ
Introverted Intuitive Feeling Judging
Strength of the preferences %
56 75 38 33
You are:
• moderately expressed introvert
• distinctively expressed intuitive personality
• moderately expressed feeling personality
• moderately expressed judging personality
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Extroverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
slightly expressed extrovert
slightly expressed intuitive personality
slightly expressed thinking personality
distinctively expressed judging personality
Somehow, I knew you would.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde