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Seriously, who do you think won?

SuzannePjamSuzannePjam Posts: 411
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
I think Obama won because he was able to hold his own with McCain on his strength, foreign policy.
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  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    i seriously think it was a draw
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,444
    Personally, I don't think either candidate stood above the other, which is better for Obama at this point (if the polls are correct). But I'd say the winner of this debate is the one who gains more points in polls from swing states. I'm very interested to see these when they come out.
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  • Given to...Given to... Wyoming Posts: 4,997
    I think Obama was the winner. Not a home run, but very well on the points that he was supposed to falter in.
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  • Smellyman2Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    draw.

    and this was supposed to be McCains strong debate. and Obama's weak one. It spells trouble for mcSame
  • Mrs.Vedder78Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    I think it was Obama, I didn't hear anything new but I think that Obama stood his ground and reflected someone who would drive our country the right direction.
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  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    On cnn, they're saying a poll of undecideds say Obama won.

    I think it was a draw.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    i think these are two pretty weak candidates.
  • It_Wasnt_My_SurfaceIt_Wasnt_My_Surface Posts: 851
    I believe that it was a draw....McCain started off strong and Obama was just accusing McCain of things that weren't true. But towards the end Obama's tactics started to get to McCain and his stances became grey. It will definitely be interesting to see the next debate and how they react to each other
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Well, 82 percent of Fox News viewers think McCain won ... lol
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    Draw. Probably overall that helps Obama, but it helps people forget about McCain's blunders in the past few days in the short term.
  • It_Wasnt_My_SurfaceIt_Wasnt_My_Surface Posts: 851
    Thats cause they are the most conservative media group haha thats like saying 92% of MSNBC viewers think Obama won
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    MrSmith wrote:
    i think these are two pretty weak candidates.

    I've thought for awhile.

    Though I didn't see the debate. I followed it old school on the radio while running errands in my car before I leave for vacation tomorrow. And on the radio, it seemed like Obama won early then McCain won the middle and it ended as a draw for me.
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  • Mrs.Vedder78Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Well, 82 percent of Fox News viewers think McCain won ... lol

    LOL!
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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    [quote="Solat13

    Though I didn't see the debate. I followed it old school on the radio while running errands in my car before I leave for vacation tomorrow. And on the radio, it seemed like Obama won early then McCain won the middle and it ended as a draw for me.[/quote"]

    Right on in terms of how it went. I thought Obama started out strong as well, and McCain got him bogged down a bit in the foreign policy stuff. They ended up about the same.
  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Well, 82 percent of Fox News viewers think McCain won ... lol

    LOL, imagine that!! :D
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    StrangestTribe27 wrote:
    Thats cause they are the most conservative media group haha thats like saying 92% of MSNBC viewers think Obama won

    I know. I was laughing about it. And, to be clear, it wasn't a scientific poll I'm talking about.

    Just a "text in your vote" poll. (Messaging rates may apply)
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    LOL, imagine that!! :D

    The other 18 percent think Reagan won ;)
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • It_Wasnt_My_SurfaceIt_Wasnt_My_Surface Posts: 851
    slightofjeff wrote:
    I know. I was laughing about it. And, to be clear, it wasn't a scientific poll I'm talking about.

    Just a "text in your vote" poll. (Messaging rates may apply)

    Haha....Damn politicians making you pay for your votes haha.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    StrangestTribe27 wrote:
    Haha....Damn politicians making you pay for your votes haha.

    I think all proceeds go to the bailout ...
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • It_Wasnt_My_SurfaceIt_Wasnt_My_Surface Posts: 851
    slightofjeff wrote:
    I think all proceeds go to the bailout ...

    haha thats what we should do to get our economy back....we'll just text everything
  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    slightofjeff wrote:
    The other 18 percent think Reagan won ;)

    :D lol!
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    catching the highlights now.

    what the fuck is Lehrer doing insisting they talk to each other? who fucking cares? this shit is pissing me off already.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    MrSmith wrote:
    catching the highlights now.

    what the fuck is Lehrer doing insisting they talk to each other? who fucking cares? this shit is pissing me off already.

    At some points, it made the debate a little too argumentative ... but I dunno ... I thought it was an interesting change of pace.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • It_Wasnt_My_SurfaceIt_Wasnt_My_Surface Posts: 851
    MrSmith wrote:
    catching the highlights now.

    what the fuck is Lehrer doing insisting they talk to each other? who fucking cares? this shit is pissing me off already.

    I agree with you totally...It was like he was trying to spread an even bigger gap between the two parties. I think we have enough of a problem with that now.
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    MrSmith wrote:
    catching the highlights now.

    what the fuck is Lehrer doing insisting they talk to each other? who fucking cares? this shit is pissing me off already.
    that was the whole point of the debate, they each had 2 minutes to answer the question, then they were supposed to argue with each other for 5 minutes. i guess they forgot to tell McCain and Obama that.

    If I ever run for president, my first response would start with a hefty "Listen Jackass......." that would immediately set the tone.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    teskeinc wrote:
    that was the whole point of the debate, they each had 2 minutes to answer the question, then they were supposed to argue with each other for 5 minutes. i guess they forgot to tell McCain and Obama that.

    If I ever run for president, my first response would start with a hefty "Listen Jackass......." that would immediately set the tone.

    "Barack, you ignorant slut ... "
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    The few polls I've seen so far (barring the Fox News poll sleightofjeff mentioned), seem to be giving a slight, slight lead to Obama. Don't have links yet, as I've mostly seen them on TV, but I'm sure they're out there.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    digster wrote:
    The few polls I've seen so far (barring the Fox News poll sleightofjeff mentioned), seem to be giving a slight, slight lead to Obama. Don't have links yet, as I've mostly seen them on TV, but I'm sure they're out there.

    I mentioned mine as a joke. You shouldn't even take that one with a mound of salt. :)

    That said, these "insta-polls" are notoriously unreliable.

    We won't really know who "won" until we look at the polls the next couple of days. And really, the only polls that are going to matter are those of undecided voters in these handful of battleground states.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    slightofjeff wrote:
    "Barack, you ignorant slut ... "

    I'm old enough to understand this ... hilarious.

    draw ... at best ...

    if not ... both lost.

    I thought they both were pretty weak.
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    Obama was the clear "winner" for me...

    McCain acted like Dick Chenney....grrrrr....

    McChenney was scared to look at Obama...
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