Mom sues after IVF brings 2 babies instead of 1

flywallyfly

Put one of the twins up for adoption if they feel the "extra" child is too costly. This world is full of idiots.

Anon

soulsinging wrote:

i got the impression it was largely intended as a sarcastic, tongue in cheek shot at them for being ungrateful at the fact that they essentially were blessed beyond anything they could or should have expected.

Thanks for that.
I owe even flow an apology then because i took his/her comment the wrong way.

catefrances

having gone through the whole pregnancy/birth/raising kids thingy more than once, i'd be thrilled if one of those times i had gotten a bonus one.

can you imagine when these children grow up knowing that one of them wasn't wanted.

that's right janey, your father and i didn't really want you. we wanted just one child not two. you can't imagine how stressful it was for us to have to go through the trauma of buying a second peg perego. when the doctors told us after so much trouble conceiving that we were expecting twins, i thought i'd simply die. it was all so unfair. :rolleyes:

Anon

even flow? wrote:

Since I don't believe in god. How about: Mother nature has decided that the two of you are not able to have a baby so if you turn to science you accept what you get. Any better for you?

I don't believe in god either. I owe you an apology as i took what you said in your initial post the wrong way. I didn't pick up on the sarcasm.
Thanks for listening.

justam

SuzannePjam wrote:

IVF nororiously brings more than one child because the chances of an embryo miscarrying are so high. That's why doctors typically implant more than one. I wonder if the doctor promised her that he would implant only one embyro and then decided to implant two after all, or was just following standard procedure by implanting more than one egg? Anyway, life is just not made to order. I wonder if she managed to get pregnant with twins on her own if she would sue her partner because she only wanted one? And I love the part about how they want "private school fees."

Mom sues after IVF brings 2 babies instead of 1
Australian woman seeks $332,000 to cover cost of raising extra child

Updated: 4:43 p.m. ET Sept 18, 2007
CANBERRA, Australia - An Australian woman who gave birth to twins instead of a single baby after receiving in-vitro fertilization has sued her doctor for the cost of bringing up the second child.
The woman, who cannot be identified because of a court order, is seeking more than 400,000 Australian dollars (US $332,000) to cover the expense of raising one child until age 21.
Testifying in the Supreme Court of the Australian Capital Territory on Tuesday, the 40-year-old mother said she told her doctor, Robert Armellin, that she only wanted one child. But an embryologist under the doctor's supervision implanted two embryos in her uterus, resulting in the birth of non-identical twin girls.
The woman told the court that she and her partner were devastated when they learned she was carrying twins, and had even considered putting one of the babies up for adoption.
She said that while she enjoyed some aspects of her pregnancy, such as decorating the girls' nursery, other parts were distressing, including purchasing a stroller, or pram.
"It was like the last frontier of acceptance to spend hundreds of dollars on a pram," she said.
The couple, whose combined income exceeds A$100,000 (US $82,875), are seeking A$398,000 (US $329,000) to cover the costs of raising one of the girls, including private school fees. They also want around A$15,000 (US $12,427) to compensate them for time off work and medical expenses.

Oh boo hoo for them. An unexpected baby. Idiots.

blackredyellow

Give me a break... If medical procedures in Australia are anything like in the US, I'm sure she signed a dozen forms that notified her of the chance of multiples and everything else under the sun...

Get over it, you are going to become a parent, which is assumingly what you wanted in the first place... now act like an adult.

hippiemom

spiral out wrote:

So IVF is ok if you are not gay?

Where did we get the idea that this woman is a lesbian? I read the article twice, I don't think it says that.

even flow?

hippiemom wrote:

Where did we get the idea that this woman is a lesbian? I read the article twice, I don't think it says that.

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/070918/K091804AU.html

CANBERRA, Australia (AP) - An Australian woman who gave birth to twins instead of a single baby after undergoing in-vitro fertilization has sued her doctor for the cost of bringing up the second child.

The woman, who cannot be identified because of a court order, is seeking $329,000 to cover the expense of raising one child until age 21.

Testifying in the Supreme Court of the Australian Capital Territory on Tuesday, the 40-year-old mother said she told her doctor that she only wanted one child.

But an embryologist under the doctor's supervision implanted two embryos in her uterus, resulting in the birth of non-identical twin girls.

[size==2]The woman told the court that she and her female partner[/size] were devastated when they learned she was carrying twins, and even considered putting one of the babies up for adoption.

The couple, whose combined income exceeds $82,875, are seeking $329,000 to cover the costs of raising one of the girls, including private school fees. They also want more than $12,000 to compensate them for time off work and medical expenses.

Edit: so I can't get the size thing to work but you get the idea.

hippiemom

even flow? wrote:

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/070918/K091804AU.html

CANBERRA, Australia (AP) - An Australian woman who gave birth to twins instead of a single baby after undergoing in-vitro fertilization has sued her doctor for the cost of bringing up the second child.

The woman, who cannot be identified because of a court order, is seeking $329,000 to cover the expense of raising one child until age 21.

Testifying in the Supreme Court of the Australian Capital Territory on Tuesday, the 40-year-old mother said she told her doctor that she only wanted one child.

But an embryologist under the doctor's supervision implanted two embryos in her uterus, resulting in the birth of non-identical twin girls.

[size==2]The woman told the court that she and her female partner[/size] were devastated when they learned she was carrying twins, and even considered putting one of the babies up for adoption.

The couple, whose combined income exceeds $82,875, are seeking $329,000 to cover the costs of raising one of the girls, including private school fees. They also want more than $12,000 to compensate them for time off work and medical expenses.

Edit: so I can't get the size thing to work but you get the idea.

I shouldn't post before I've had my coffee

angelica

catefrances wrote:

you can't imagine how stressful it was for us to have to go through the trauma of buying a second peg perego.

spiral out

hippiemom wrote:

Where did we get the idea that this woman is a lesbian? I read the article twice, I don't think it says that.

I googled it, but that is what even flow implied in his post.

prism

this is just beyond ridiculous....if they weren't willing to accept what often comes from ivf why didn't they just go the ol' turkey baster route?

spiral out

prism wrote:

this is just beyond ridiculous....if they weren't willing to accept what often comes from ivf why didn't they just go the ol' turkey baster route?

I totally agree, but if the doctors didn't listen and did put two eggs back when she spicifically asked for one to be put back then that is a different matter.

I guess she has a case in that instance.

angelica

spiral out wrote:

I totally agree, but if the doctors didn't listen and did put two eggs back when she spicifically asked for one to be put back then that is a different matter.

I guess she has a case in that instance.

I agree.

justam

The only difference between this woman and any woman who accidentally has another baby is that she has someone other than herself and a sex partner to blame.

It's wrong for her to behave like this because a child is a child. You either live up to an unexpected one and love it like it was planned, or you put it up for adoption so that someone ELSE can love it like it was planned.

How horrible for these children. They are both going to feel unwanted when they are old enough to hear about the law-suit.

decides2dream

catefrances wrote:

this is ridiculous. but i totally understand how distressing it is buying a stroller. :rolleyes: give me a break stupid people. LMFAO!!!!!

absolute agreement.
if one undergoes IVF and does NOT know the quite HIGH incidence of multiple births....well then, they had no busines having a procedure they were so ill-educated about. utterly ridiculous.

you want one baby so much...and then you get 2...and sue?!


IF she did specify only one egg implantation and they did not follow her wishes...that would be one thing, but we don't have that info to speculate. i've never heard of anyone doing so, b/c you only have a 1 in 5 chance of success with IVF in the first place, and that is with multiple eggs implanted....but it would be dependent on that. for me personally, that's always been an 'issue'...the fact that you CAN end up with multiples.....and then can be given the choice to have 3 babies...or abort. yikes. i am completely pro-choice, but i cannot imagine wanting 1 baby that much...then having the possibility of so many more....and then what?


oops...i see now, i didn't read all the way thru. even so....how do we know? it is highly out of the ordinary to specify only one egg implantation. and without it being put in writing, bit difficult to prove, no?

spiral out

Here in england they are planing to change the law due to a strain on the NHS, so that doctors will only be allowed to put one egg in thus reducing the risk of mulitiple births.

I don't see why a person couldn't specifiy that they only wanted one egg put back, it's not an unreasonable ask considering the risk of mulitiple births. Which they would have been made well aware of before they even started the process.

decides2dream

spiral out wrote:

Here in england they are planing to change the law due to a strain on the NHS, so that doctors will only be allowed to put one egg in thus reducing the risk of mulitiple births.

I don't see why a person couldn't specifiy that they only wanted one egg put back, it's not an unreasonable ask considering the risk of mulitiple births. Which they would have been made well aware of before they even started the process.

is this procedure covered by your healthcare? b/c here in the states it is not....and i think? it roughly costs about 12K per each round...and on average couples have it done 3x...so that's 36k.....and WITH multiple embryos implanted. there IS a good reson why they implant multiple embryos...b/c there is a high failure rate. as i said, i don't know exactly how many they normally implant...but it is usually a few.....and still, the procedure only has a 1 in 5 success rate, each time. so that will mean a LOT more undergoing the procedure, multiple times, if that came into being. of course, if one is informed and wants that choice....not saying they shouldn't have it. it IS a highly personal decision in the first place. just relly going into the 'whys' of how it is done at the moment, usually.

Brain of J.Lo

I'm gonna sue my husband for accidentally impregnating me two years ago yesterday.

Seriously though, this is bullshit. Giving birth of multiples is always a possibility when IVF is used.

They should put both babies up for adoption, so as to prevent the possibility of one of them becoming "the unwanted one" as years go by and they develop personalities.

prism

Brain of J.Lo wrote:

I'm gonna sue my husband for accidentally impregnating me two years ago yesterday.

Seriously though, this is bullshit. Giving birth of multiples is always a possibility when IVF is used.

They should put both babies up for adoption, so as to prevent the possibility of one of them becoming "the unwanted one" as years go by and they develop personalities.

yeah, I should sue my ex for accidently impregnating me twice (really, I had nuthin to do with it ) actually I did sue him for child support...not that i ever saw any

I think they should give them both up as well...if they can't handle twins they have no business having any at all....i just feel really sorry for those baby girls