Gingrich: Personal lives shouldn't be issues in '08 campaign... hahahahahahahahahaha!

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What a hypocrite! Sucks when the shoe is on the other foot, huh, Newt? Yes, dumping your wife when she's on a hospital bed, having affairs and not paying child support should not be taken into account when running for president. Stay in the race, dude. I would love to see you waste your money.

Gingrich Speaks About 2008 Race In Nashville
March 21, 2007 09:55 AM

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said in Nashville that the personal lives of White House hopefuls shouldn't become an issue in the 2008 campaign.
Earlier this month Gingrich said he was seeking forgiveness for his own extramarital affair committed while he pursued President Clinton's impeachment in the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
Since the announcement, Gingrich said he's received a positive response from colleagues and others.
He's considering a race for the presidency.*Gingrich was in Nashville Tuesday night to speak at Vanderbilt University.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    What a hypocrite! Sucks when the shoe is on the other foot, huh, Newt? Yes, dumping your wife when she's on a hospital bed, having affairs and not paying child support should not be taken into account when running for president. Stay in the race, dude. I would love to see you waste your money.

    Gingrich Speaks About 2008 Race In Nashville
    March 21, 2007 09:55 AM

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said in Nashville that the personal lives of White House hopefuls shouldn't become an issue in the 2008 campaign.
    Earlier this month Gingrich said he was seeking forgiveness for his own extramarital affair committed while he pursued President Clinton's impeachment in the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
    Since the announcement, Gingrich said he's received a positive response from colleagues and others.
    He's considering a race for the presidency.*Gingrich was in Nashville Tuesday night to speak at Vanderbilt University.

    If I needed to hate Christianity, this guy would be my poster child. It's enough that he's one of the best personifications of what's wrong with American politics today.

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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    I don't want anyone to be surprised if a year from now the Republican nomination is between Rudy and Newt. These two guys have a lot of supporters and money to take it. :( The current Republicans love Newt. He's a smarter GWB.


    We're fucked. :( :mad:
  • lucylespianlucylespian Posts: 2,403
    This is the most fucked thing about Christianity, this forgiveness shite. They can do whatever they want cos afterwards you cna just ask for forgiveness.

    Now forgiveness has a great role in life, but this is such a cop-out and an abuse of teh whole idea.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    What a hypocrite! Sucks when the shoe is on the other foot, huh, Newt? Yes, dumping your wife when she's on a hospital bed, having affairs and not paying child support should not be taken into account when running for president. Stay in the race, dude. I would love to see you waste your money.

    Gingrich Speaks About 2008 Race In Nashville
    March 21, 2007 09:55 AM

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said in Nashville that the personal lives of White House hopefuls shouldn't become an issue in the 2008 campaign.
    Earlier this month Gingrich said he was seeking forgiveness for his own extramarital affair committed while he pursued President Clinton's impeachment in the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
    Since the announcement, Gingrich said he's received a positive response from colleagues and others.
    He's considering a race for the presidency.*Gingrich was in Nashville Tuesday night to speak at Vanderbilt University.

    funny how when it's his life under the microscope suddenly personal lives shouldn't be an issue.
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    What a tool. This is a great example of the complete shit both parties have as standard bearers for their "sides". This is going to be one ugly primary season.
  • He is a hypocrite but so are the others. Everyone has skeletons in the closet and most politicians have done some fucked up things. And even you hadn't done some fucked up things the other side would drag up some shit from high school or college that you were involved in. It's the nature of the beast unfortunately.
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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    What an asshole.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    I agree. No bringing up personal lives. But the moment he uses "family values" or suggests that his opponent has lacking character, go after the fucker and go after him hard. Clinton smoked weed and cheated...that's nothing. Smear him like nobody's been smeared.
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  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    DO matter. While everybody still seems to love Bill Clinton (except for me), I felt that his personal life certainly got in the way of politics, to our detriment. Other countries look at our President as our country's leader. If he's a loose, immoral moron, it makes us look like crap. If he's a Democrat and the Republicans pull him before a jury and make him swear under oath that he didn't touch "that woman", and he lies, he commits perjury and we look even crappier. *Edit* And if he's a Republican who gleefully swore that men like Clinton should not be President, all the while having an affair of his own -- or a presidential hopeful who embarrassed the hell out of his wife and kids while making his mistress a public figure -- that looks shitty too.

    Personal lives shouldn't be issues when it comes to candidates smearing each other over the course of a campaign, but when you step into that White House, have some decency, for crying out loud.
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  • Smellyman2Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    Bu2 wrote:
    DO matter. While everybody still seems to love Bill Clinton (except for me), I felt that his personal life certainly got in the way of politics, to our detriment. Other countries look at our President as our country's leader. If he's a loose, immoral moron, it makes us look like crap. If he's a Democrat and the Republicans pull him before a jury and make him swear under oath that he didn't touch "that woman", and he lies, he commits perjury and we look even crappier. *Edit* And if he's a Republican who gleefully swore that men like Clinton should not be President, all the while having an affair of his own -- or a presidential hopeful who embarrassed the hell out of his wife and kids while making his mistress a public figure -- that looks shitty too.

    Personal lives shouldn't be issues when it comes to candidates smearing each other over the course of a campaign, but when you step into that White House, have some decency, for crying out loud.

    GWB lowered the bar as low as it will go. No matter who the next president is it would be hard to be worse than the worst POTUS ever.

    Good Luck Candidates.
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Smellyman wrote:
    GWB lowered the bar as low as it will go. No matter who the next president is it would be hard to be worse than the worst POTUS ever.

    Good Luck Candidates.

    He hasn't cheated on his wife (or, at least, he hasn't been caught), but he, too, is an embarrassment. Other countries look to us as being led by an illiterate cowboy who's a real hell-raiser. Yee-Haw! And while he used to snort coke and drink like a fish and he dodged the draft, he's now seen God, so...hell, yeah, he's a good man now.

    ...and before y'all say it, I'll say it for you: Yes, Obama snorted and he smoked weed in his teens. Okay. But he moved on from that, and he's moved on and up rather well.
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Wow... I can't even comprehend how stupid that is. Can anyone defend this shit?
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  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Wow... I can't even comprehend how stupid that is. Can anyone defend this shit?

    or Gingrich?
    Feels Good Inc.
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    Bu2 wrote:
    or Gingrich?

    Gingrich. Well I sorta agree with your post, its stupid for Gingrich to be saying this.
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Bu2 wrote:
    DO matter. While everybody still seems to love Bill Clinton (except for me), I felt that his personal life certainly got in the way of politics, to our detriment. Other countries look at our President as our country's leader. If he's a loose, immoral moron, it makes us look like crap. If he's a Democrat and the Republicans pull him before a jury and make him swear under oath that he didn't touch "that woman", and he lies, he commits perjury and we look even crappier. *Edit* And if he's a Republican who gleefully swore that men like Clinton should not be President, all the while having an affair of his own -- or a presidential hopeful who embarrassed the hell out of his wife and kids while making his mistress a public figure -- that looks shitty too.

    Personal lives shouldn't be issues when it comes to candidates smearing each other over the course of a campaign, but when you step into that White House, have some decency, for crying out loud.

    no it doesn't, becos nobody gave a shit that clinton cheated on his wife. around the world, they laughed at how prudish we were about it and wondered why it was such a big deal. most of them didnt give a shit, having a mistress is common practice out there.
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    no it doesn't, becos nobody gave a shit that clinton cheated on his wife. around the world, they laughed at how prudish we were about it and wondered why it was such a big deal. most of them didnt give a shit, having a mistress is common practice out there.

    Exactly. Gingrich and company used the affair as a tool to halt any of Clinton's initiatives the rest of his term. They didnt give a crap about his affair or perjury -- now it seems things will come full circle on this asshole.
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Gingrich preaches dialogue, blasts guerilla ads
    By Sam Youngman
    March 21, 2007
    Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) blasted a new ad that exploded in the blogosphere this week, calling it the “‘Entertainment Tonight’ version of governing a great country.”

    The ad, which plays off an Apple Computer commercial and portrays Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) in a negative light, may have been posted originally by an anonymous supporter of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.). It has created the biggest buzz of any ads of the early election season thus far.

    While Gingrich, speaking to the Independent Women’s Forum at the National Press Club, described the ad as “clever,” he also said it was harmful to a national dialogue and an impediment to problem-solving.

    “It is utterly, totally destructive of the process of thought,” Gingrich said.

    The former Speaker went on to challenge whomever becomes a presidential nominee to engage in weekly 90-minute discussions with his or her counterparts from other parties, beginning Labor Day of 2008 and continuing through Election Day.
    Gingrich continues to poll well nationally, and many conservatives, unhappy with the top tier of Republican presidential candidates, are hoping he will enter the race.

    Gingrich said after the meeting at the press club that he won’t consider a run until after Sept. 30, but in response to an audience question, he did say a Gingrich administration would be “very open, very fact-oriented” and with as little partisanship as possible.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    zstillings wrote:
    Gingrich preaches dialogue, blasts guerilla ads
    By Sam Youngman
    March 21, 2007
    Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) blasted a new ad that exploded in the blogosphere this week, calling it the “‘Entertainment Tonight’ version of governing a great country.”

    The ad, which plays off an Apple Computer commercial and portrays Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) in a negative light, may have been posted originally by an anonymous supporter of Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.). It has created the biggest buzz of any ads of the early election season thus far.

    While Gingrich, speaking to the Independent Women’s Forum at the National Press Club, described the ad as “clever,” he also said it was harmful to a national dialogue and an impediment to problem-solving.

    “It is utterly, totally destructive of the process of thought,” Gingrich said.

    The former Speaker went on to challenge whomever becomes a presidential nominee to engage in weekly 90-minute discussions with his or her counterparts from other parties, beginning Labor Day of 2008 and continuing through Election Day.
    Gingrich continues to poll well nationally, and many conservatives, unhappy with the top tier of Republican presidential candidates, are hoping he will enter the race.

    Gingrich said after the meeting at the press club that he won’t consider a run until after Sept. 30, but in response to an audience question, he did say a Gingrich administration would be “very open, very fact-oriented” and with as little partisanship as possible.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWvHbOoG3tI
  • everyone gets smeared thats in the limelight of the political arena, and obviously, gingrich doesnt want to talk about something that he screwed up on, everyone has cinks in the armour but i think gingrich is a really smart guy who probably wont win but i would like him on the ticket with rudy, rudy/newt would be a major upgrade from bush/cheney and anything the dems could muster...
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Why did Christianity get brought into this thread....yet again. So tiresome....
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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    know1 wrote:
    Why did Christianity get brought into this thread....yet again. So tiresome....

    I'm really glad that this board isn't a good sampling of atheists. It is, however, a good sampling of those who see their lack of belief in any deity to be a religion. I would call it a new fundamentalism here.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    know1 wrote:
    Why did Christianity get brought into this thread....yet again. So tiresome....



    I can't remember Newt ever stumping on religion, and his issue with Clinton had more to do with his lying to congress and other standard political bullshit that is pretty equal in both parties. I believe he stepped down during the whole thing coming clean about his own affair. He's a solid economist, and did a good job when he was in there, he's probably one of the least religion oriented members of that party. The Clintons are so dirty anyway this was one of about 75 things they finally nailed Bill on I mean really believing otherwise is like shoving your head in the sand. The same shit goes on no matter who is in office but I don't believe for a second any of our politicians are even sort of clean.
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  • know1 wrote:
    Why did Christianity get brought into this thread....yet again. So tiresome....

    i don't think it's unfair to bring up christianity when you consider the fact that newt chose to disclose his extramarital affairs during an interview with james dobson.
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    What a hypocrite! Sucks when the shoe is on the other foot, huh, Newt? Yes, dumping your wife when she's on a hospital bed, having affairs and not paying child support should not be taken into account when running for president. Stay in the race, dude. I would love to see you waste your money.

    Gingrich Speaks About 2008 Race In Nashville
    March 21, 2007 09:55 AM

    NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) -- Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said in Nashville that the personal lives of White House hopefuls shouldn't become an issue in the 2008 campaign.
    Earlier this month Gingrich said he was seeking forgiveness for his own extramarital affair committed while he pursued President Clinton's impeachment in the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
    Since the announcement, Gingrich said he's received a positive response from colleagues and others.
    He's considering a race for the presidency.*Gingrich was in Nashville Tuesday night to speak at Vanderbilt University.

    mark this date down, I agree with SuzzaneJam on something! Newt is a piece of shit, personally...I could never vote for him.

    the one point of contention, it doesn't matter to me he was having an affair during the impeachment b/c bill clinton was not impeached b/c he had an affair, he was impeached b/c he lied about it in a sexual harrassment trial...more testimony that the feminist movement is not about feminism, but liberalism...

    damn, i just HAD to turn an agreement into a fight :)
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    And desire and love and empty things
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  • GalianaGaliana Posts: 554
    mark this date down, I agree with SuzzaneJam on something! Newt is a piece of shit, personally...I could never vote for him.

    the one point of contention, it doesn't matter to me he was having an affair during the impeachment b/c bill clinton was not impeached b/c he had an affair, he was impeached b/c he lied about it in a sexual harrassment trial...more testimony that the feminist movement is not about feminism, but liberalism...

    damn, i just HAD to turn an agreement into a fight :)


    Gingrich was lying too, he just never got caught. Whenever someone has an affair he (or she) lives a lie. It makes no difference if the lie was committed in court or not.
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  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Galiana wrote:
    Gingrich was lying too, he just never got caught. Whenever someone has an affair he (or she) lives a lie. It makes no difference if the lie was committed in court or not.

    again, you are diverting the point. Slick Willie was accused of sexual harrassment, newt wasn't.

    he lied under oath about an affair, in a sexual harrassment trial. i know the drive by media has probably brainwashed the public into thinking clinton was impeached b/c of an affair, but no...it's because he was accused of sexual harrassment, and lied about an affair under oath. that is important b/c perverts like der schlichmeister exhibit such behavior. it's not about...of course, everyone would lie about sex. again, he was accused of a crime...unlike scooter libby.

    any real feminist would recognize this, but a liberal wouldn't, the latter would make all kinds of excuses...which further shines the light on the leftist agenda. they don't give a damned about women's rights.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Rapunzel64Rapunzel64 Posts: 129
    Newt should give up right now. He is a real hypocrite. You shouldn't throw rocks when you live in a blass house.
  • GalianaGaliana Posts: 554
    again, you are diverting the point. Slick Willie was accused of sexual harrassment, newt wasn't.

    he lied under oath about an affair, in a sexual harrassment trial. i know the drive by media has probably brainwashed the public into thinking clinton was impeached b/c of an affair, but no...it's because he was accused of sexual harrassment, and lied about an affair under oath. that is important b/c perverts like der schlichmeister exhibit such behavior. it's not about...of course, everyone would lie about sex. again, he was accused of a crime...unlike scooter libby.

    any real feminist would recognize this, but a liberal wouldn't, the latter would make all kinds of excuses...which further shines the light on the leftist agenda. they don't give a damned about women's rights.


    You still don't get it. Yes, Clinton lied, but at the same time Gingrich was lying to himself, his wife, the American people, and (since Republicans are so religious) God. The fact that it was not part of a lawsuit is immaterial.

    By the way, I consider myself a conservative feminist (no, that's not an oxymoron). I didn't like Clinton actually because of his behavior, but women were a lot better off when he was in office than under the Bush theocracy we have now.
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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Rapunzel64 wrote:
    Newt should give up right now. He is a real hypocrite. You shouldn't throw rocks when you live in a blass house.

    Newt hasn't even entered the race.
  • again, you are diverting the point. Slick Willie was accused of sexual harrassment, newt wasn't.

    he lied under oath about an affair, in a sexual harrassment trial. i know the drive by media has probably brainwashed the public into thinking clinton was impeached b/c of an affair, but no...it's because he was accused of sexual harrassment, and lied about an affair under oath. that is important b/c perverts like der schlichmeister exhibit such behavior. it's not about...of course, everyone would lie about sex. again, he was accused of a crime...unlike scooter libby.

    any real feminist would recognize this, but a liberal wouldn't, the latter would make all kinds of excuses...which further shines the light on the leftist agenda. they don't give a damned about women's rights.


    Unlike Scooter Libby - hahahahaha you kill me.
    The guy was accused of sexual harrassment by Paula Jones - who suddenly became the cause celebe of the right wing hit machine that saw their chance to take Clinton down...she received support from right wingers financially and otherwise in an attempt to bring down his presidency. Then we the case was over they Republicans abandoned her - sort of like they abandon our wounded soldiers coming home from the Deciders war.

    Oh and nice quote from Ted Kennedy. Unfortunately for you he voted against the invasion of Iraq like anyone else with a brain would have.
    But it is a nice attempt to conflate Kennedy with the "imminent danger" crowd.
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