Could the IRS be an illegal entity?

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  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Cosmo wrote:
    I don't blame the Tax Collectors... B-2 Bombers and InterState 10 are not cheap to build and maintain. Someone has to pay for that stuff.
    Go after the mother fuckers who SPEND your tax dollars on bullshit... like giving Pakistan a huge chunk of our taxes so they will 'be our friends'... our creedo seems to be, 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'. Bullshit... the enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy... nothing more.
    And what about the 400 Billion going into Iraq... what incentive do they have to stand on their own if we will continue to funnel our dollars into that shithole? When we leave, their gravy train ends. They're not idiots... WE ARE!!!
    The I.R.S. collects the shit... the real bastards are the mother fuckers WE vote for.

    but I think as long as you have that much money concentrated in one place (the Federal treasury), then bastards and mother fuckers will keep finding a way to get their hands on it. and our choice of who to vote for will remain limited to either bastards or mother fuckers.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    but I think as long as you have that much money concentrated in one place (the Federal treasury), then bastards and mother fuckers will keep finding a way to get their hands on it. and our choice of who to vote for will remain limited to either bastards or mother fuckers.
    ...
    Yeah.. i know. I still wish that our leaders would be honest.. but, if they were honest, they wouldn't be politicians.
    With the amount of money we collect as taxes... we should have one kick ass country. But, we don't.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Cosmo wrote:
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    With the amount of money we collect as taxes... we should have one kick ass country. But, we don't.

    and OMG is that frustrating!!!!
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Cosmo wrote:
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    With the amount of money we collect as taxes... we should have one kick ass country. But, we don't.

    Perhaps we would even have enough to fix New Orleans. But hey it's good 2 know that a few countries have (for example)better health care than we do in america, with our taxes dollars, they use our money well
  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Cosmo wrote:
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    Yeah.. i know. I still wish that our leaders would be honest.. but, if they were honest, they wouldn't be politicians.
    With the amount of money we collect as taxes... we should have one kick ass country. But, we don't.

    you ain't shittin.

    http://www.dunkdem.org/dunkdem7.html
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Cosmo wrote:
    With the amount of money we collect as taxes... we should have one kick ass country. But, we don't.

    Perhaps it's time to realize that institutionalized theft does not make for a "kick ass country".

    But tax on.......
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    People put way too much faith in the constitution, like it's our savior. It IS just a piece of paper, and it's been ammended many times. It's been ammended many times, because it is extremely inadequate. A piece of paper doesn't protect your freedom, and it shouldn't be used as an excuse not to pay income tax. The government needs money to run since the people do not want to run it themselves.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Saturnal wrote:
    the people do not want to run it themselves.

    Speak for yourself.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Yeah.. i know. I still wish that our leaders would be honest.. but, if they were honest, they wouldn't be politicians.
    With the amount of money we collect as taxes... we should have one kick ass country. But, we don't.

    But heaven forbid that someone suggest that we cut taxes and cut out waste because they are branded as heartless.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    know1 wrote:
    But heaven forbid that someone suggest that we cut taxes and cut out waste because they are branded as heartless.

    Kind of makes you wonder what the people who collect those taxes should be branded as? But hey, the paradoxical morality of "sacrifice to selfishness" is something I'll never be able to figure out.....
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    know1 wrote:
    But heaven forbid that someone suggest that we cut taxes and cut out waste because they are branded as heartless.
    When you say "cut out waste" ask around and see exactly what "waste" is. You're likely to get dozens of different answers - hell, hundreds if you're talking specifics. It's not all that easy.

    Here's a suggestion - not that it would be my only one, or that I'm all that hard fast on it. Let's leave Iraq (billions and billions of dollars there), cut defense spending (our biggest chunk), use what defense spending we have left on actual defensive technology (i.e. far less boots on the ground), and implement a draft everytime we go to war. I guarantee you we'll get involved in less wars, and we'll save shitloads.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    RainDog wrote:
    When you say "cut out waste" ask around and see exactly what "waste" is. You're likely to get dozens of different answers - hell, hundreds if you're talking specifics. It's not all that easy.

    You just answered your own question. Give the money back and let those "hundreds" decide for themselves.
    Here's a suggestion - not that it would be my only one, or that I'm all that hard fast on it. Let's leave Iraq (billions and billions of dollars there), cut defense spending (our biggest chunk), use what defense spending we have left on actual defensive technology (i.e. far less boots on the ground), and implement a draft everytime we go to war. I guarantee you we'll get involved in less wars, and we'll save shitloads.

    You're more than welcome to do that with your money.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Speak for yourself.

    I'm speaking for reality. Most Americans do not want to be actively involved in running their government. Only 60% or so even vote in the presidential elections.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Saturnal wrote:
    I'm speaking for reality. Most Americans do not want to be actively involved in running their government. Only 60% or so even vote in the presidential elections.

    Perhaps only "60% or so" vote because they don't see a vote as "running their government".
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    farfromglorified wrote:
    You just answered your own question. Give the money back and let those "hundreds" decide for themselves.



    You're more than welcome to do that with your money.
    I know we've gone round and round on this before, but I happen to like my roads, fire departments, police departments, rescue squads, education departments, social safty nets, fighter planes, judges, departments of health, NPR, coast guard, parks services, and l really like the idea of you having to pay for it. You are living in my country after all.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    RainDog wrote:
    I know we've gone round and round on this before, but I happen to like my roads, fire departments, police departments, rescue squads, education departments, social safty nets, fighter planes, judges, departments of health, NPR, coast guard, parks services, and l really like the idea of you having to pay for it.

    Of course you do.
    You are living in my country after all.

    As far as slumlords go, you could be worse.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Of course you do.



    As far as slumlords go, you could be worse.
    Slumlord isn't exactly fair. Afterall, while you have to pay taxes, you don't have to live in the slums.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Perhaps only "60% or so" vote because they don't see a vote as "running their government".

    Perhaps, but I doubt it. I see no evidence that would show the majority of the population is seriously invovled with activist/lobby work or whatever else you can think of that would be considered "running the government".
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    RainDog wrote:
    Slumlord isn't exactly fair. Afterall, while you have to pay taxes, you don't have to live in the slums.

    I live in your country, and your country is not in very good shape right now. Your country is in bad shape right now because you forgot that the logic that forces me to pay for your Coast Gaurd also works for people like Donald Rumsfeld.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Saturnal wrote:
    Perhaps, but I doubt it. I see no evidence that would show the majority of the population is seriously invovled with activist/lobby work or whatever else you can think of that would be considered "running the government".

    Yes, I'm sure that the American public really wants a world in which they must lobby something to govern their lives.

    The system is such that we have a government and then we have people. It's no surprise that the people act accordingly.

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