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enharmonicenharmonic Posts: 1,917
edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
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I really want to see this movie.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    bastards take a big chunk from my checks. eh what are ya gonna do



    I hope you donated to that site. seems like a very honest organization
  • enharmonicenharmonic Posts: 1,917
    Every tax paying, law-abiding American needs to see this movie.

    We've been had.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    enharmonic wrote:
    Every tax paying, law-abiding American needs to see this movie.

    We've been had.


    you mean the government doesnt make the most of my hard earned tax dollars? you have to be kdding !!!! damnit!
  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,696
    The IRS isn't illegal. The IRS is immoral.
  • enharmonicenharmonic Posts: 1,917
    Well, apparently there's no law stating that working american's must pay taxes, and the Federal Reserve is a privately owned corporation...two things I did not know before watching this trailer.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    enharmonic wrote:
    Well, apparently there's no law stating that working american's must pay taxes, and the Federal Reserve is a privately owned corporation...two things I did not know before watching this trailer.


    theres no law stating that working america's must pay taxes? really? didn't Al Capone go to jail for that?

    yes i'm making light of the situation. I do believe american's are required to pay taxes. and if you break the law, you can go to jail for it.
  • ItsEvolutionBaby74ItsEvolutionBaby74 Posts: 490
    farfromglorified wrote:
    The IRS isn't illegal. The IRS is immoral.

    I'ts times like this that I'm glad I burn my taxes! Just joking, no lawsuits please.
    "Feel it rising, yeah next stop falling!"

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  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,696
    jlew24asu wrote:
    theres no law stating that working america's must pay taxes? really? didn't Al Capone go to jail for that?

    yes i'm making light of the situation. I do believe american's are required to pay taxes. and if you break the law, you can go to jail for it.

    Americans are required to pay taxes. The argument here is that tax law is unconstitutional.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Americans are required to pay taxes. The argument here is that tax law is unconstitutional.


    ok well someone lead the fight to prove that. I'll be happy to not pay taxes anymore. but then again, taxes are spent on useful things. sometimes.
  • ItsEvolutionBaby74ItsEvolutionBaby74 Posts: 490
    jlew24asu wrote:
    ok well someone lead the fight to prove that. I'll be happy to not pay taxes anymore. but then again, taxes are spent on useful things. sometimes.

    Like paying for Police Brutality and killing innocent Iraqis to look for a terrorist that isn't even in that country?
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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    ItsEvolutionBaby74 wrote:
    Like paying for Police Brutality and killing innocent Iraqis to look for a terrorist that isn't even in that country?

    No. It's for bloating the federal DOE in the "interest of the children," paying people not to work in the "interest of compassion," paying for illegal immigrants to sit in prison in the...well I don't really know why they do that, but I'm sure there is a good reason.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    brght bunch of people in here. I dont know if you live in this country but if you do why?
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    jlew24asu wrote:
    brght bunch of people in here. I dont know if you live in this country but if you do why?

    I don't think the country was founded on the right of the government to confiscate whatever they deem to be fair from my paycheck.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    zstillings wrote:
    I don't think the country was founded on the right of the government to confiscate whatever they deem to be fair from my paycheck.


    whats your solution?
  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,696
    zstillings wrote:
    I don't think the country was founded on the right of the government to confiscate whatever they deem to be fair from my paycheck.

    My hero.......
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    jlew24asu wrote:
    whats your solution?

    I wouldn't go to the extreme that the movie seems to go to on that site. The government could operate on much less money than it takes right now. Many things that the government has taken over can be more effectively dealt with in the private sector since the bureaucracy holds itself unaccountable for its actions. The elected officials, in my mind, are not the big problem. The bureaucracy has become the fourth branch of government.
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Most of the issues that could be discussed are best dealt with on a case by case basis.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I don't blame the Tax Collectors... B-2 Bombers and InterState 10 are not cheap to build and maintain. Someone has to pay for that stuff.
    Go after the mother fuckers who SPEND your tax dollars on bullshit... like giving Pakistan a huge chunk of our taxes so they will 'be our friends'... our creedo seems to be, 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'. Bullshit... the enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy... nothing more.
    And what about the 400 Billion going into Iraq... what incentive do they have to stand on their own if we will continue to funnel our dollars into that shithole? When we leave, their gravy train ends. They're not idiots... WE ARE!!!
    The I.R.S. collects the shit... the real bastards are the mother fuckers WE vote for.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Not UnConstitutional:
    Amendment 16:
    'The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.'
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    zstillings wrote:
    I wouldn't go to the extreme that the movie seems to go to on that site. The government could operate on much less money than it takes right now. Many things that the government has taken over can be more effectively dealt with in the private sector since the bureaucracy holds itself unaccountable for its actions. The elected officials, in my mind, are not the big problem. The bureaucracy has become the fourth branch of government.


    i agree. the wasteful spending by our government, repubican and democrat is ridiculous and needs to be cleaned up
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Cosmo wrote:
    I don't blame the Tax Collectors... B-2 Bombers and InterState 10 are not cheap to build and maintain. Someone has to pay for that stuff.
    Go after the mother fuckers who SPEND your tax dollars on bullshit... like giving Pakistan a huge chunk of our taxes so they will 'be our friends'... our creedo seems to be, 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'. Bullshit... the enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy... nothing more.
    And what about the 400 Billion going into Iraq... what incentive do they have to stand on their own if we will continue to funnel our dollars into that shithole? When we leave, their gravy train ends. They're not idiots... WE ARE!!!
    The I.R.S. collects the shit... the real bastards are the mother fuckers WE vote for.

    but I think as long as you have that much money concentrated in one place (the Federal treasury), then bastards and mother fuckers will keep finding a way to get their hands on it. and our choice of who to vote for will remain limited to either bastards or mother fuckers.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Kenny Olav wrote:
    but I think as long as you have that much money concentrated in one place (the Federal treasury), then bastards and mother fuckers will keep finding a way to get their hands on it. and our choice of who to vote for will remain limited to either bastards or mother fuckers.
    ...
    Yeah.. i know. I still wish that our leaders would be honest.. but, if they were honest, they wouldn't be politicians.
    With the amount of money we collect as taxes... we should have one kick ass country. But, we don't.
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...

    With the amount of money we collect as taxes... we should have one kick ass country. But, we don't.

    and OMG is that frustrating!!!!
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    With the amount of money we collect as taxes... we should have one kick ass country. But, we don't.

    Perhaps we would even have enough to fix New Orleans. But hey it's good 2 know that a few countries have (for example)better health care than we do in america, with our taxes dollars, they use our money well
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Yeah.. i know. I still wish that our leaders would be honest.. but, if they were honest, they wouldn't be politicians.
    With the amount of money we collect as taxes... we should have one kick ass country. But, we don't.

    you ain't shittin.

    http://www.dunkdem.org/dunkdem7.html
  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,696
    Cosmo wrote:
    With the amount of money we collect as taxes... we should have one kick ass country. But, we don't.

    Perhaps it's time to realize that institutionalized theft does not make for a "kick ass country".

    But tax on.......
  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    People put way too much faith in the constitution, like it's our savior. It IS just a piece of paper, and it's been ammended many times. It's been ammended many times, because it is extremely inadequate. A piece of paper doesn't protect your freedom, and it shouldn't be used as an excuse not to pay income tax. The government needs money to run since the people do not want to run it themselves.
  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,696
    Saturnal wrote:
    the people do not want to run it themselves.

    Speak for yourself.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Yeah.. i know. I still wish that our leaders would be honest.. but, if they were honest, they wouldn't be politicians.
    With the amount of money we collect as taxes... we should have one kick ass country. But, we don't.

    But heaven forbid that someone suggest that we cut taxes and cut out waste because they are branded as heartless.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • farfromglorifiedfarfromglorified Posts: 5,696
    know1 wrote:
    But heaven forbid that someone suggest that we cut taxes and cut out waste because they are branded as heartless.

    Kind of makes you wonder what the people who collect those taxes should be branded as? But hey, the paradoxical morality of "sacrifice to selfishness" is something I'll never be able to figure out.....
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