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Palin favors aerial wolf hunting

sweet adelinesweet adeline Posts: 2,191
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/brutal-ad-targets-palins_n_125975.html

pretty brutal images, be forewarned.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,500
    I saw this on the news...but I forget the reasoning...
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  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    wow.

    actually, might get more votes from the hunters.

    but, damn ....
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    cincybearcat wrote:
    I saw this on the news...but I forget the reasoning...

    cuz killing's a hoot! :rolleyes:
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Is there a reason why they shoot them from the plane?
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    mammasan wrote:
    Is there a reason why they shoot them from the plane?

    they're pussies
  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    mammasan wrote:
    Is there a reason why they shoot them from the plane?


    it tires the animals out ... they'll follow them until they stop from exhaustion, then shoot.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    cutback wrote:
    they're pussies

    I personally don't like hunting, fishing is another story, but I feel that if you are going to hunt you should at least be fair. Man up and use a bow and arrow or a spear. None of this perched up on a hunting platform in a tree with a rifle, or in a plane as the guy in the video. That's just being a pussy if you ask me.
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  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    here is a longer version of the move against ariel hunting ... discussing the claims that they need to hunt wolves to "protect Caribou" ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mu_rqmFpL8&feature=related
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  • sweet adelinesweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    jimed14 wrote:
    wow.

    actually, might get more votes from the hunters.

    but, damn ....

    i think most hunters even think this practice is bullshit.

    unless we are talking about the dick cheney style hunters who go to a pheasant ranch and open the door of their food pickup to shoot at the animals (or at their friends face).
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    jimed14 wrote:
    here is a longer version of the move against ariel hunting ... discussing the claims that they need to hunt wolves to "protect Caribou" ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mu_rqmFpL8&feature=related

    yes they have to protect the Caribou so they in turn can shoot them from a plane.
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  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    Christ. I am not clicking on that link, but I have read up on this bullshit.

    Soon they'll have internet hunting. Point and click on a satellite map of a herd of animals, and a laser-guided shell comes out of the sky to make the kill. The staff retrieves the kill, sends you the trophy and fillets the meat for you.
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  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    mammasan wrote:
    I personally don't like hunting, fishing is another story, but I feel that if you are going to hunt you should at least be fair. Man up and use a bow and arrow or a spear. None of this perched up on a hunting platform in a tree with a rifle, or in a plane as the guy in the video. That's just being a pussy if you ask me.

    I don't agree with this bow and spear nonsense, I am not a throwback to the Neolithic age. Hunting for food is a form of harvesting, and no one tells farmer Bob to trade in his combine for one of those old-school Egytian-style scythes ... "Park the combine, you pussy!" ...

    That being said, yeah, wolf hunting is not right, for several different reasons, and the idea of chasing down a noble creature from the air so that it can be dispatched when it reaches the point of exhaustion makes me more than a little disgusted. People don't eat wolves, and killing predators to protect a bunch of overglorified tundra cattle (caribou) so that people can shoot more of the latter is just not kosher.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    reborncareerist wrote:
    I don't agree with this bow and spear nonsense, I am not a throwback to the Neolithic age.


    Pussy ;)
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    mammasan wrote:
    I personally don't like hunting, fishing is another story, but I feel that if you are going to hunt you should at least be fair. Man up and use a bow and arrow or a spear. None of this perched up on a hunting platform in a tree with a rifle, or in a plane as the guy in the video. That's just being a pussy if you ask me.

    i'm not a hunter...i don't get it....to kill something just to kill it is preposterous to me....however people who hunt for food and use bow and arrow i have no problem with...but this is just sick....this is out and out murder....there is no "hunting" involved...no skill....just killing....and if suzie chapstick is in favor of this then my question is....will she allow herself to be locked into a small area and let wolves hunt her?
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    meistereder wrote:
    Christ. I am not clicking on that link, but I have read up on this bullshit.

    Soon they'll have internet hunting. Point and click on a satellite map of a herd of animals, and a laser-guided shell comes out of the sky to make the kill. The staff retrieves the kill, sends you the trophy and fillets the meat for you.


    i think i once read someone was either trying to do that or did and got a lot of shit for it
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    cutback wrote:
    i think i once read someone was either trying to do that or did and got a lot of shit for it


    A company was trying to do that in Texas. You would log onto their web page pay the fee and then using the mouse aim and shoot at an animal.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,500
    mammasan wrote:
    yes they have to protect the Caribou so they in turn can shoot them from a plane.


    Nope, can't shoot Caribou from a plane, just the predators...I don;t know enough to have an opinion on this, and I don;t think the links here provide the whole story.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    mammasan wrote:
    A company was trying to do that in Texas. You would log onto their web page pay the fee and then using the mouse aim and shoot at an animal.

    that's the one i was thinking of....pathetic
  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    cutback wrote:
    that's the one i was thinking of....pathetic


    Wow. And here I thought I was using satire to prove a point.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Nope, can't shoot Caribou from a plane, just the predators...I don;t know enough to have an opinion on this, and I don;t think the links here provide the whole story.

    Either way they are protecting the Caribou for what so they themselves can go out and hunt it.
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  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    While I fully agree, this is horrific and brutal ... but, let's put a hint of perspective on this as an issue in November.

    Can we please agree that the savagry in the middle east is far more an important topic in this election than the savagry being done to these wolves?
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  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    jimed14 wrote:
    While I fully agree, this is horrific and brutal ... but, let's put a hint of perspective on this as an issue in November.

    Can we please agree that the savagry in the middle east is far more an important topic in this election than the savagry being done to these wolves?


    These are valid issues. I for one am completely disturbed by Palin's views on the environment. Those issues include this and the polar bear issue, not to mention the fact that she denies global warming is man-made.

    That said, the middle east is also a valid point of contention against her.
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  • sweet adelinesweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    meistereder wrote:
    These are valid issues. I for one am completely disturbed by Palin's views on the environment. Those issues include this and the polar bear issue, not to mention the fact that she denies global warming is man-made.

    That said, the middle east is also a valid point of contention against her.

    well put.

    plus it just further goes to show the backward thinking of this person.
  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    meistereder wrote:
    These are valid issues. I for one am completely disturbed by Palin's views on the environment. Those issues include this and the polar bear issue, not to mention the fact that she denies global warming is man-made.

    That said, the middle east is also a valid point of contention against her.


    I did *not* say it was invalid ... I just stated that the issues in the middle east were more important than those of wolves.

    Meaning, I would not want the Obama campaign to "run with this" as some sort of tactic against Palin. He needs to focus on McCain.
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • cubbieblue82cubbieblue82 Posts: 292
    meistereder wrote:
    Christ. I am not clicking on that link, but I have read up on this bullshit.

    Soon they'll have internet hunting. Point and click on a satellite map of a herd of animals, and a laser-guided shell comes out of the sky to make the kill. The staff retrieves the kill, sends you the trophy and fillets the meat for you.

    Looks like even you can shoot animals from the comfort of your couch! How fun! :rolleyes:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4022147.stm

    This reminds me of Cheney's hunting "accident." Driving around in a truck where they wait for you to let caged birds with clipped wings out for you to shoot out. What skill! :rolleyes:

    I'm not generally opposed to hunting, but these kinds of events are brutal!
    Obama/Biden '08!!!
  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    jimed14 wrote:
    I did *not* say it was invalid ... I just stated that the issues in the middle east were more important than those of wolves.

    Meaning, I would not want the Obama campaign to "run with this" as some sort of tactic against Palin. He needs to focus on McCain.


    I know what you mean, but for some people this is just as big of an issue as Iraq. I don't want to go down the road of wolves vs. human beings. It's not about that. The environment is a big issue for the future, as is Iraq.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    jimed14 wrote:
    I did *not* say it was invalid ... I just stated that the issues in the middle east were more important than those of wolves.

    Meaning, I would not want the Obama campaign to "run with this" as some sort of tactic against Palin. He needs to focus on McCain.

    this is just one of the issues and we're discussing it...there are and will be threads discussing iraq et al
  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    cutback wrote:
    this is just one of the issues and we're discussing it...there are and will be threads discussing iraq et al


    indeed, and I said it was horrific (even provided a link with further information) ... and I never said WE shouldn't talk about it ... all, I said people need to weigh the priorities.

    I truly feel the Obama campaign is/was spending a little too much time with Palin ... I think it will curtail and he'll let all the hawks that support him go after her.

    I just don't want to see the Obama campaign spend one dollar on an ad with this info, save the ad $$$ for his message, how it differs from McCain and linking McCain to Bush ...

    This seems like an issue where "viral marketing" will get this message out there ...
    "You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91

    "I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    jimed14 wrote:
    indeed, and I said it was horrific (even provided a link with further information) ... and I never said WE shouldn't talk about it ... all, I said people need to weigh the priorities.

    I truly feel the Obama campaign is/was spending a little too much time with Palin ... I think it will curtail and he'll let all the hawks that support him go after her.

    I just don't want to see the Obama campaign spend one dollar on an ad with this info, save the ad $$$ for his message, how it differs from McCain and linking McCain to Bush ...

    This seems like an issue where "viral marketing" will get this message out there ...

    totally agree....we as voters can/should discuss this but the campaign will need to move on to the bigger issues
  • Smellyman2Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    We don't know Shit about Palin. So the more information we get on her the better.
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