He Would Have Advocated To Arrest Eddie Vedder and Lots Of NICE PEEPS: Barack Obama

Boston MA

Keep it the right frame of mind.
They are all dirt, except Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, etc.

Video Refutes Popular MPP Obama Video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9-Znv41SIJU

Despite what the MPP (Marijuana Policy Project) video might suggest, Barack Obama does not support marijuana decrim.

On the subject of cannabis Barack Obama is weak and most certainly does not support marijuana decrim.

Support a politician in a day and age where 75%+ of voters support medical marijuana and he says, "I won't risk any political capital for it". Support that?

That's not worthy of our support or vote.

We are the majority, we know what is right, we demand it!

Let MPP know that you are not happy with their deceptive video.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wQr9ezr8UeA

http://mpp.org


Send a message to Barack Obama that luke warm support and worrying about political capital is unacceptable on the issues of medical marijuana and decrim.


Music:
PROSPECT HILL "SOE"
http://myspace.com/prospecthill

No Cuffs for Cannabis !

wma11

ok...AET

jimed14

should move to moving train forum ...

and while it may be the majority*, it's not a priority ... there are far worse things going on that deserve more attention than this issue.

*would like to see where you got that 75% statistic though. Seems a bit high .... no pun intended.

musicismylife78

What does this have to do with ed? Ed has never publicly supported smoking pot. I would assume he is for decriminlization. But being pro legalization doesnt mean being arrested. Obama isnt for that. I aint a fan of Obama and I sure as hell aint gonna vote for him, but not even Bush is for arresting people just based on their being pro legalization. I would guess obama is the same way

Thats not to say either of their stances on the subject are right, moral and justified. Quite the opposite.

Come Back in Black

Boston, MA wrote:

Keep it the right frame of mind.
They are all dirt, except Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, etc.

Video Refutes Popular MPP Obama Video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9-Znv41SIJU

Despite what the MPP (Marijuana Policy Project) video might suggest, Barack Obama does not support marijuana decrim.

On the subject of cannabis Barack Obama is weak and most certainly does not support marijuana decrim.

Support a politician in a day and age where 75%+ of voters support medical marijuana and he says, "I won't risk any political capital for it". Support that?

That's not worthy of our support or vote.

We are the majority, we know what is right, we demand it!

Let MPP know that you are not happy with their deceptive video.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wQr9ezr8UeA

http://mpp.org


Send a message to Barack Obama that luke warm support and worrying about political capital is unacceptable on the issues of medical marijuana and decrim.


Music:
PROSPECT HILL "SOE"
http://myspace.com/prospecthill

No Cuffs for Cannabis !

Grow up.

aNiMaL

Yeah, you know I like to spark it up on a regular basis, but right now in the USA, we have much larger fish to fry than the marijuana laws.

Granted, I agree it should be legalized, that is just not top priority at this time.

hourglassnebula

Sorry, it's hard to think that medical marijuana and decriminalization are priorities at a time when we are in war, states are trying to pass laws making abortion illegal, the economy is slumping ... the list goes on my friend. People like you do not help things.

muppet

Yeah, fuck all of his other policies, if he doesn't like mary jane than I ain't voting for him.

Please.

Boston MA

radiohead33 wrote:

What does this have to do with ed? Ed has never publicly supported smoking pot. I would assume he is for decriminlization. But being pro legalization doesnt mean being arrested. Obama isnt for that. I aint a fan of Obama and I sure as hell aint gonna vote for him, but not even Bush is for arresting people just based on their being pro legalization. I would guess obama is the same way

Thats not to say either of their stances on the subject are right, moral and justified. Quite the opposite.

I was just noting that Obama and these pols are supporting policies that aim to arrest people for one joint, none of them support decrim, I wan't talking legalization. Eddie apparently smoked weed. So Obama supports a law that would arrest him. That's the point. Obama does not support decrim. I know, it's in the video. He has said that and reiterated it recently.

Obama is lukewarm on medical. Saying he won't risk any political capitol over it.

No political capitol for me with daily back pain for 10 years?
No political capitol for my friend Marci a grandmother with seizures and strokes? None for any of my sick friends with crohns, ms, hiv?

There is no more important issue than protecting sick people from a vicious govt. it's laws against them, laws that force them to purchase black market medicine at huge markeups to cartels that are run by the pols and govt.

For those people that say there are more important issues.

Tell that to sick people that need it. And then listen and face those people as they give their response. If you still feel that way, let me know. I can award you for being without any heart.

Boston MA

muppet wrote:

Yeah, fuck all of his other policies, if he doesn't like mary jane than I ain't voting for him.

Please.

Who said anything about voting for him? I'm not voting for him for other reasons as well. My aim is to move him and get people to make this an issue. I care not for three bought off candidates but creating some change. Like I've done and continue to do. I don't need Obama to tell me we can't do nothing when I do it myself. Get it?

But yet it is an important issue for many of us, especially those with jobs that like to smoke or those again like me with medical conditions pain and a black market system that gouges us and puts at great risk. It's very important to me and might be to you someday. I never thought I'd be here.

And it has overwhelming public support. The money is against it. The people for it. The pols get away with it if they can divide and keep the people quiet on it. They also have an opt out clause if people demand to much. So here I am demanding. Demand it loudly and make Obama make a pledge. That's the only way change happens. No other way. Gay rights, less people, more of them active, loud and demanding, they got more movement from the pols. They were loud and kept asking. It works, I know I've done it again and again, agianst corps, orgs, and pols. Try it. democracy works if you do more than just vote for a crook.

aNiMaL

Boston, MA wrote:

I was just noting that Obama and these pols are supporting policies that aim to arrest people for one joint, none of them support decrim, I wan't talking legalization. Eddie apparently smoked weed. So Obama supports a law that would arrest him. That's the point. Obama does not support decrim. I know, it's in the video. He has said that and reiterated it recently.

Obama is lukewarm on medical. Saying he won't risk any political capitol over it.

No political capitol for me with daily back pain for 10 years?
No political capitol for my friend Marci a grandmother with seizures and strokes? None for any of my sick friends with crohns, ms, hiv?

There is no more important issue than protecting sick people from a vicious govt. it's laws against them, laws that force them to purchase black market medicine at huge markeups to cartels that are run by the pols and govt.

For those people that say there are more important issues.

Tell that to sick people that need it. And then listen and face those people as they give their response. If you still feel that way, let me know. I can award you for being without any heart.

It's not about being without a heart. It is about picking your battles. Right now, there is no viable candidate (one who has even the slightest chance of winning the seat in the White House) who is pro-decriminalization. So what should we do? Vote for someone who will not win just to stand that ground, when we could make actual change by choosing the best option to make the most change in the country? Should we throw that vote away on something that no one who has a chance is supporting?

2-feign-reluctance

there is no simple answer to any of this.

aNiMaL

I believe marijuana reform laws have the best chance if changed at the local state and county levels.

The federal government will continue to shun pot laws until the majority of states have made such laws. States have to stand their ground. No presidential hopeful will ever go against the majority. And in this case it is not the majority of voters, it is the majority of states.

That is my opinion anyway.

Boston MA

hourglassnebula wrote:

Sorry, it's hard to think that medical marijuana and decriminalization are priorities at a time when we are in war, states are trying to pass laws making abortion illegal, the economy is slumping ... the list goes on my friend. People like you do not help things.

You don't help things? It's your reflection.

I've saved a local radio show promoting all local artists from a corporation that thought it could just cancel our local heritage programming. If not for my anger and will, it would be gone. That was the start. I make change. I've been involved in anti-war groups, activities. I work with working people on how to save, budget, be frugal, get out of debt, advising on getting better skills, etc. leading by my own example. My pay is good these days, yet I still buy junk box cars with cash, no loan, never live in debt again.

I'm not bragging just relating that the truth is it is important but only God (if you believe in one or think there is one) is the only worthy one to judge whose life or pursuit of justice is more important.

What are you doing to help on those more important issues?

I say marijuana reform can definitely help with the economy, jobs, and spending as well as easily alleviate sick people's pain/sickness/hardship at no cost to society. It's one of the only easy fixes! I'm a money guy, the other stuff there is no easy fix. With marijuana reform there certainly is!

Medical and decrim, pretty simple.

One of the things you did mention the economy. We have huge govt. deficits, marijuana reform is a nice tax generator it also reduces govt. cost big time, provides some jobs as well.

Boston MA

aNiMaL wrote:

I believe marijuana reform laws have the best chance if changed at the local state and county levels.

The federal government will continue to shun pot laws until the majority of states have made such laws. States have to stand their ground. No presidential hopeful will ever go against the majority. And in this case it is not the majority of voters, it is the majority of states.

That is my opinion anyway.

A President can re-schedule marijuana very easily. It really is no big thing, but the money doesn't want it. If a President can get enough public shouting about it (the majority support it-it's not hard), the money will let it pass. That is the truth. The President gets on board, more states will pass bills. It is happening you are right. It's because of work and people all over the country doing it. Many of them I know. We didn't have the majority even 10 years ago. We do now. We just got to convince them it is worth it and easily possible which it is.

HermanBloom

I am so tired of the damn potheads on here; expand your mind by reading a book.

U R A Crazy Breed

Obama foreign policy by Brezinsky.

In Zbigniew Brzezinski’s The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives (1997), he outlines his case for how current American global supremacy should be used to further a long running elite plan for the unification of the world under the dictates of the United Nations.

For those who don’t know, among many other things, Brzezinski was an advisor to John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Hubert Humphrey, and Jimmy Carter. He was also the first director of the Trilateral Commission and board member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Currently he is a top foreign policy advisor to the Barack Obama campaign for presidency.



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Boston MA

aNiMaL wrote:

It's not about being without a heart. It is about picking your battles. Right now, there is no viable candidate (one who has even the slightest chance of winning the seat in the White House) who is pro-decriminalization. So what should we do? Vote for someone who will not win just to stand that ground, when we could make actual change by choosing the best option to make the most change in the country? Should we throw that vote away on something that no one who has a chance is supporting?

Voting for a candidate for President is not important! Not for me and many people. It's the least important thing I do or consider with my activism or being engaged in democracy. I live in MA, voting for Obama? He's going to win here by a landslide, no democrat ever loses here. Winner takes all by state in the electoral college.

So basically your stance is that I should sell out my cause and be quiet, go make a meaningless vote to a politician that wants to tell me I can't use marijuana for medicine when I'm going to anyways, and call it a day? Sounds like a good deal? Or just close to giving up?

Or not and be loud mobilize people, locally and nationally, create videos, makes calls to local elected reps, write letters that almost always get published in local news papers, help get a state ballot initiative for decrim on the ballot in MA, and reap the rewards?

I'll choose the latter And I'll still vote but not for Obama.

LikeAnOcean

Eddie Vedder does not support pot use.. I'm sure he used it occasionally in the past, but in an interview said he stopped completely after his daughter was born..


Besides Mike's past addictions, what makes you think any of the band members smoke pot?


Like a previous post said, read a book. I smoked pot last weekend and it's overrated. There's better ways to burn brain cells.

Should it be legal?.. Sure, but there's more important issues to worry about than getting high, like people dieing in war.

On a scale of importance, marijuana legalization ranks on the very bottom. When people are no longer dieing overseas, when our economy is out of the shitter, when world hunger is solved, then sitting around and getting high will be a somewhat relavant issue, along with what type of toilet paper is best for cleaning our asses.

U R A Crazy Breed

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Eddie Vedder does not support pot use.. I'm sure he used it occasionally in the past, but in an interview said he stopped completely after his daughter was born..


Besides Mike's past addictions, what makes you think any of the band members smoke pot?

i doubt Ed never smokes anymore.

and please don't compare Mike's heroin addiction to pot smoking,they are worlds apart.

dustinpardue

I am way more concerned with the state of the world than I am with pot. But I hear you, it shouldn't be a crime.