Republican quotes KKK founder on House floor
Rushlimbo
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Maybe the guy should have worn a sheet to deliver his speech.
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Roll Call reports today that a House Republican delivered a foreign policy speech yesterday in which he quoted Nathan Bedford Forrest, founder of the KKK.
On Monday, Rep. Ted Poe took to the House floor to discuss foreign policy matters. To make a point, the Texas Republican invoked the words of Civil War Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest: “Git thar fustest with the mostest.”
The quotation got some floor watchers’ attention pretty quickly. Forrest is a controversial figure who was one of the Klan’s first grand wizards. Although the Civil War hero (if you were a Confederate, that is) ultimately abandoned the Klan for its violent tactics, he continues to kick up dust.
“Controversial figure” doesn’t quite cut it. Most lists of the worst Americans in U.S. history include Nathan Bedford Forrest near the top. That’s what happens when someone creates the KKK to terrorize freed slaves and their allies, after taking up arms against the United States. What on earth would possess a GOP lawmaker to quote Forrest on the House floor?
Poe’s spokesperson told Roll Call, “The reference to Forrest was used in an historical context comparing the request to Congress for support of the Confederate troops to the request that is being made today by our Generals in Iraq.”
First, the comparison doesn’t make any sense. Second, when one bolsters their argument with the words of one of the most controversial Americans ever, rationalizing it as a historical comparison is unpersuasive.
Shouldn’t this be a bigger deal? Given all of the racial problems of the Republican Party, isn’t it rather scandalous for a Republican lawmaker to rely on the words of the founder of the KKK?
Post Script: And, just as an aside, the quote Poe used was wrong.
[A]ccording to historians, Forrest didn’t really say the line that’s so often attributed to him. “Do not, under any circumstances whatever, quote Forrest as saying ‘fustest’ and ‘mostest’,” Civil War scholar Bruce Catton wrote in his 1971 book, “The Civil War.” Catton wrote that Forrest actually believed the essence of strategy — and the proper quote — was “to git thar fust with the most men.”
What’s worse than quoting the founder of the KKK on the House floor? Quoting him incorrectly.
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http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/10731.html
Roll Call reports today that a House Republican delivered a foreign policy speech yesterday in which he quoted Nathan Bedford Forrest, founder of the KKK.
On Monday, Rep. Ted Poe took to the House floor to discuss foreign policy matters. To make a point, the Texas Republican invoked the words of Civil War Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest: “Git thar fustest with the mostest.”
The quotation got some floor watchers’ attention pretty quickly. Forrest is a controversial figure who was one of the Klan’s first grand wizards. Although the Civil War hero (if you were a Confederate, that is) ultimately abandoned the Klan for its violent tactics, he continues to kick up dust.
“Controversial figure” doesn’t quite cut it. Most lists of the worst Americans in U.S. history include Nathan Bedford Forrest near the top. That’s what happens when someone creates the KKK to terrorize freed slaves and their allies, after taking up arms against the United States. What on earth would possess a GOP lawmaker to quote Forrest on the House floor?
Poe’s spokesperson told Roll Call, “The reference to Forrest was used in an historical context comparing the request to Congress for support of the Confederate troops to the request that is being made today by our Generals in Iraq.”
First, the comparison doesn’t make any sense. Second, when one bolsters their argument with the words of one of the most controversial Americans ever, rationalizing it as a historical comparison is unpersuasive.
Shouldn’t this be a bigger deal? Given all of the racial problems of the Republican Party, isn’t it rather scandalous for a Republican lawmaker to rely on the words of the founder of the KKK?
Post Script: And, just as an aside, the quote Poe used was wrong.
[A]ccording to historians, Forrest didn’t really say the line that’s so often attributed to him. “Do not, under any circumstances whatever, quote Forrest as saying ‘fustest’ and ‘mostest’,” Civil War scholar Bruce Catton wrote in his 1971 book, “The Civil War.” Catton wrote that Forrest actually believed the essence of strategy — and the proper quote — was “to git thar fust with the most men.”
What’s worse than quoting the founder of the KKK on the House floor? Quoting him incorrectly.
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Ignorance is Strength
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Did Sen. Byrd cheer from the other side of the Capitol?0
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zstillings wrote:Did Sen. Byrd cheer from the other side of the Capitol?
Yes...he and Lott exchanged high fives.War is Peace
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People will really make a big deal out of just about anything now won't they?
This is dumb.hippiemom = goodness0 -
If you know your civil war history at all, you know that Forrest is probably the greatest guerilla military strategist this country has ever seen."If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
—Dorothy Parker
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godpt3 wrote:If you know your civil war history at all, you know that Forrest is probably the greatest guerilla military strategist this country has ever seen.
Uhh...Yay?0 -
Meaning the quotation was quite relevant.0
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interesting. how many republicans in congress actually belonged to the KKK and how many democrats have?
by the way, you're not up on your "barak the magic negro" stuff lately. again, awesome job by rush to point out the true racists - libs.And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
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Rushlimbo wrote:Yes...he and Lott exchanged high fives.
you think Lott is a racist? why? did he belong to the KKK? or is your template of what you think he is supposed to become reality? what about biden...or mrs. bill clinton...they don't seem to like indians too much.And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days0 -
while I think the KKK is criminal and are composed of wimps and ignorant jerks, I dont think quoting the KKK necessarily is bad.
Hitler once stated "you tell a lie often enough and people believe it, and the bigger the lie, the more easily digested it is". Clearly this has parallels with the current administration.
And Goerring has one of the best quotes about war I have ever seen. He said
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
Both of these human beings were murderous tyrants, but doesnt mean they didnt have wisdom to impart.0 -
zstillings wrote:Did Sen. Byrd cheer from the other side of the Capitol?
please. the klan that byrd was involved with was not the crazy, militant, violent klan that existed before his time and again later. there have been several incarnations of the klan. also, when you grow up in a place where all your family belongs to something, and it seems like just a social club, why wouldn't you want to be part of what everyone else is? it's not like he was out terrorizing people in his cloak and hood. senator byrd is a great senator and has done amazing things for west virginia. he should be celebrated as a highly influential, great man, not cut down for some mistake he has more than made up for.0 -
Rushlimbo wrote:Maybe the guy should have worn a sheet to deliver his speech.
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http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/10731.html
Roll Call reports today that a House Republican delivered a foreign policy speech yesterday in which he quoted Nathan Bedford Forrest, founder of the KKK.
On Monday, Rep. Ted Poe took to the House floor to discuss foreign policy matters. To make a point, the Texas Republican invoked the words of Civil War Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest: “Git thar fustest with the mostest.”
The quotation got some floor watchers’ attention pretty quickly. Forrest is a controversial figure who was one of the Klan’s first grand wizards. Although .
well...it aint the 'grand old party' for nothin
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way0 -
Purple Hawk wrote:.again, awesome job by rush to point out the true racists - libs.
You do realize that saying that over and over does not make it true ?!War is Peace
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Quoting Einstien doesn't make me a phyicist.....That's two things we've got, Tape and Time.0
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Purple Hawk wrote:again, awesome job by rush to point out the true racists - libs.
Lets make assumptions about an entire group of people! That sound like LOADS of fun. Ohh You started already.
okay my turn,
All conservatives are Rednecks. <---- was that good?That's two things we've got, Tape and Time.0 -
all mexicans know how to make tacossicnevol wrote:Lets make assumptions about an entire group of people! That sound like LOADS of fun. Ohh You started already.
okay my turn,
All conservatives are Rednecks. <---- was that good?This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.0 -
OHH GOOD ONE!deadnothingbetter wrote:all mexicans know how to make tacos
Hmmmm, All japanese people love fish.That's two things we've got, Tape and Time.0 -
no, you mean sushisicnevol wrote:OHH GOOD ONE!
Hmmmm, All japanese people love fish.This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.0 -
no they put fish on everything, or fish juice. ewwwwdeadnothingbetter wrote:no, you mean sushiThat's two things we've got, Tape and Time.0 -
now you're really racist. i was just kidding earlier.sicnevol wrote:no they put fish on everything, or fish juice. ewwwwThis isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.0 -
i live in japan. I would know.deadnothingbetter wrote:now you're really racist. i was just kidding earlier.That's two things we've got, Tape and Time.0
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