Killing toads is now becoming less and less popular, on account of 2 things:
The RSPCA has decided that they will charge anyone with killing them in a cruel way, and they are also a lot less populous then they used to be. Their population seems to explode when they first get to an area and then it reduces a little after a while. Still a major menace though- they have put numerous species of native australian wildlife on the edge of extinction. At the wildlife park where I work, we lost our 60kg cassowary because she ingested a toad (we think it might have been covered in green algae, making it look like a frog- which they do eat). She died within 40 minutes.
I won't kill them with golf clubs like some do, but I will run them over in my car. Becomes a traffic hazard in North Queensland as cars swerve all over the road to get them.
One of the single greatest threats to Northern Wildlife.
Evil bastards of things. There might be hope for the native wildlife though. I've read about some interesting research about recognition of cane toads by native species that have encountered them before. There were experiments done with rainbowfish that showed that fish from a stream where there were no toads would readily eat toad eggs and tadpoles and die, but fish from a stream where the toads were present knew to avoid the eggs and tadpoles and wouldn't touch them.
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Evil bastards of things. There might be hope for the native wildlife though. I've read about some interesting research about recognition of cane toads by native species that have encountered them before. There were experiments done with rainbowfish that showed that fish from a stream where there were no toads would readily eat toad eggs and tadpoles and die, but fish from a stream where the toads were present knew to avoid the eggs and tadpoles and wouldn't touch them.
Nature finds a way...........:D
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Evil bastards of things. There might be hope for the native wildlife though. I've read about some interesting research about recognition of cane toads by native species that have encountered them before. There were experiments done with rainbowfish that showed that fish from a stream where there were no toads would readily eat toad eggs and tadpoles and die, but fish from a stream where the toads were present knew to avoid the eggs and tadpoles and wouldn't touch them.
The Keelback, a small colubrid (rear-fanged snake) can eat small toads. Some populations of freshwater croc have been observed to shake the poison out of them and then eat them on occasion. And there are a few birds that will avoid the poison and peck out the tasty bits.
The animal that is possibly most under threat is the Northern Quoll.
I also read about some research on genetically engineering carp to produce only male offspring, and wondered if they could apply somethng like that to toads.
I have no problems with hunting so long as the hunter does it for a means to obtain food.
I think hunting for the simple act of killing something is seriously fucked up.
I don't hunt, but if I was hungry enough I would.
Oh, for any of you interested in learning about what has been done to North American wildlife over the years, check out Pulitzer prize winning author Edward O. Wilson's "The Diversity of Life". A very good read!
I have no problems with hunting so long as the hunter does it for a means to obtain food.
I think hunting for the simple act of killing something is seriously fucked up.
I don't hunt, but if I was hungry enough I would.
Oh, for any of you interested in learning about what has been done to North American wildlife over the years, check out Pulitzer prize winning author Edward O. Wilson's "The Diversity of Life". A very good read!
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The fun isn't in the killing, its in the hunting. I don't particularly enjoy killing animals, but I enjoy going shooting. And it is a pretty satisfying feeling when you nail a feral animal like a pig or a fox. I only ever shoot a roo when we need meat for the dogs. I get just as much of a kick out of hunting native animals with a camera though.
Well, you said it yourself my friend, so stick to the camera.
I can relate to the thrill. Playing paintball is a blast and a huge energy rush. Gives you the same feeling without having to kill.
Well, you said it yourself my friend, so stick to the camera.
I can relate to the thrill. Playing paintball is a blast and a huge energy rush. Gives you the same feeling without having to kill.
Nothing is honestly better than the kill. I hunt deer and its a great feeling when you shoot a buck.
But honestly if im not killing them you are with your car
Well, you said it yourself my friend, so stick to the camera.
I can relate to the thrill. Playing paintball is a blast and a huge energy rush. Gives you the same feeling without having to kill.
I don't think paintballs would be a very effective means of controlling invasive species. Killing feral animals is a good thing. And yes, its fun. Not because killing things is fun, but because its really satisfying to nail those destructive bastards. Its like shooting a paper target, only there is a purpose to it, and its fun because its much more challenging. I'm not going to listen to you tell me that its wrong to kill invasive feral animals that destroy both agricultural land and native ecosystems. As long as its done in an efficient and humane way, I don't see how you can possibly argue against it, even if you don't believe in eating meat.
As I said, I feel quite differently about shooting kangaroos. I do shoot one from time to time, but usually only to get meat for the dogs, or when the numbers on our property are very high.
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I don't think paintballs would be a very effective means of controlling invasive species. Killing feral animals is a good thing. And yes, its fun. Not because killing things is fun, but because its really satisfying to nail those destructive bastards. Its like shooting a paper target, only there is a purpose to it, and its fun because its much more challenging. I'm not going to listen to you tell me that its wrong to kill invasive feral animals that destroy both agricultural land and native ecosystems. As long as its done in an efficient and humane way, I don't see how you can possibly argue against it, even if you don't believe in eating meat.
As I said, I feel quite differently about shooting kangaroos. I do shoot one from time to time, but usually only to get meat for the dogs, or when the numbers on our property are very high.
Those PETA-type folks don't understand science...........just their own emotions.
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I actually know this hunter- he's one of the nicest people that I've ever met
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My neighbor's 9 year old daughter has four baby ducks.
When she walks around the property the ducks all follow her around like she's their mother. It's so cute. Where ever she goes, they go scampering after her:)
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Only read this because I just happened to cook the last of my ducks from last season today. I have no intention of trying to debate with anyone or change anyones mind on the subject of hunting, it's like discussing abortion or what flavored M&Ms are better (the correct answer is actually green) but I would like to offer this. Waterfowl hunters by and large play a vital role in the preservation of wetlands in this country. in 1934 Roosevelt signed the migratory bird hunting stamp act , it's purpose was to generate funds to purchase our countries disappearing wetlands. It is what has become or National Refuge System. 98 cents of every dollar spent goes directly to purchasing these lands. Do other people purchase these stamps, sure some, but waterfowl hunters are required to have them in there possession while in the field. I can hear those who say well if ya didn't shoot em you wouldn't need have a refuge system. Ah, if only we lived in the land of rainbows and fairy tales. Most of the hunters i know, not all, but most donate both their time and money into ensuring waterfowl populations. people say I hate hunting this and that but I wonder how much of there paycheck actually goes towards conservation, any conservation in this country. I'm sure some folks do, but a heck of a lot don't. Anybody up on the alarming rate of destruction caused to the arctic tundra by greater and lesser snow geese? Didn't think so who is Fed hoping can help curb the problem, hunters. Ever feed a duck or goose at local park? thanks, your helping domesticate a wild bird, A duck or goose should have a natural fear of man, you feed em you give em water all year, no need to migrate anymore, then what do you do when the population keeps growing? A lot of states wait until they are in molt (can't fly) heard them into trucks converted to gas chambers and kill them in mass. I will say I have met some hunters that have no respect for what there doing or the game they chase, absolutely disgusts me. I also have veggie friends who have no problem treating natural resources like a trash can. So how about this, i'll let you be if you'll do the same for me, if you need a hand holler, i'd be glad to help, just ask any deadhead I fed deer chillie, steak and burgers to on the 90, 91 tours,oh don't forget the pheasant nuggets. oh and as far as most people believing hunters are republicans you would be surprised to learn that actually the opposite is usually true. People who own crp ground and farmers who put their ground into such programs are dems. No one loves a subsidy like a farmer. I don't want to go on with the relations between hunters and land owners but it is strong. Most of these folks are left,they just like their guns.
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Unless you are a vegetarian, I don't want to hear you criticize hunting.
Hunting is far more natural & humane than eating meat that comes out of slaughterhouses.
I'm not a big fan of hunting...meaning I won;t do it. That being said, I eat meat and realize where it comes from...so my distaste for hunting stems from only those hunters that do it for sport. Not much sport there unless you either arm the animals or take away the guns and make the sport hunters fight the animals in hand-to-paw/beak/whatever combat.
I won't hunt either; but I sure eat meat and I sure like eating the venison that my father-in-law gives me periodically....so I'm not going to criticize hunting.
What about fishing? Does fishing upset people as well? Or not so much since fish aren't "cute"?
I won't hunt either; but I sure eat meat and I sure like eating the venison that my father-in-law gives me periodically....so I'm not going to criticize hunting.
What about fishing? Does fishing upset people as well? Or not so much since fish aren't "cute"?
Yeah, I don't fish either...without a supermarket, I'd have to be a vegetarian I think. I'm such a wuss.
I won't hunt either; but I sure eat meat and I sure like eating the venison that my father-in-law gives me periodically....so I'm not going to criticize hunting.
What about fishing? Does fishing upset people as well? Or not so much since fish aren't "cute"?
I eat meat, but not all that much red meat.
I'm a gun.firearm owner, but not a true hunter. Although I do hunt on occasion. Only for food, never for sport.
I mostly just wanted to learn how to hunt properly. Never know when that skill may come in handy.
two more things, for whoever wanted mountain lions released, some states have actually done this to help control deer populations. The two I've heard of are IL, and MO. The theory being that if they have an ample food supply they won't bother humans (not sure I agree). And for those who say it's only fair to disarm the hunters you aren't giving the animals most people hunt credit. They don't survive by luck. it's through their instincts. The success rate for people who go hunting isn't very good for most. The reason for this is to be successful it takes a fair amount of work and knowledge. If your under the impression you just stumble into the woods and start blasting away you have watched far to many movies. Go sit in the woods and see how many deer come wandering up to you or turkeys or coyotes or whatever. I'll grant you for the life of me I will never understand why someone wants to shoot an elephant or a bear. I wouldn't ever want to shoot a grizzly bear but I understand why they have permits on these animals. Male grizzlies will kill most cubs they come in contact with to cut down on the competition for food. No more cubs, no more bears. I think the survival rate on grizzly cubs making it to adulthood is like one in three, not completely sure of that but I think it's close. If their home ranges weren't shrinking this might not be the case but lord knows we need more starbucks . Our human nature, for whatever reason, says hey there something cool and beautiful, let's tear it down and put up housing and a mall and only leave a little bit of it. I would be much happier with ten times more animals around me and ten times less humans. Unfortunately, that's not going to happen. Again, it's a logical argument vs. an emotional response. I have no problems if someone says I don't want to kill, I won't eat meat. I just wish you'd look into what the runoff from all the pesticides and fertilizers that are used on fruits and vegetables are doing to water supplies in a lot of areas. If you go organic that's great, most people can't afford to. It's Not mentioned much, but ask any old timer if a tomato tastes like it used to or damn near anything grown in the ground. We have gotten real good at making our food look great but nutritionally it's not what it used to be. I'm not blaming vegetarians, I'm simply suggesting you get off the cross and realize your lifestyle has impacts as well. Are their dumb ass hunters I'd rather not be associated with, sure. Are their holier than though vegans, of course. I have dealt with both in my life and found that usually they were decent people who just needed a little more education, not to sway them one way or the other but to help them understand everything we do has an impact, everything.
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Evil bastards of things. There might be hope for the native wildlife though. I've read about some interesting research about recognition of cane toads by native species that have encountered them before. There were experiments done with rainbowfish that showed that fish from a stream where there were no toads would readily eat toad eggs and tadpoles and die, but fish from a stream where the toads were present knew to avoid the eggs and tadpoles and wouldn't touch them.
-C Addison
The Keelback, a small colubrid (rear-fanged snake) can eat small toads. Some populations of freshwater croc have been observed to shake the poison out of them and then eat them on occasion. And there are a few birds that will avoid the poison and peck out the tasty bits.
The animal that is possibly most under threat is the Northern Quoll.
I also read about some research on genetically engineering carp to produce only male offspring, and wondered if they could apply somethng like that to toads.
I think hunting for the simple act of killing something is seriously fucked up.
I don't hunt, but if I was hungry enough I would.
Oh, for any of you interested in learning about what has been done to North American wildlife over the years, check out Pulitzer prize winning author Edward O. Wilson's "The Diversity of Life". A very good read!
Ohhhh you're a Cubs fan. No wonder you're a little unhinged.
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Yeah, tis true.
Well, you said it yourself my friend, so stick to the camera.
I can relate to the thrill. Playing paintball is a blast and a huge energy rush. Gives you the same feeling without having to kill.
Nothing is honestly better than the kill. I hunt deer and its a great feeling when you shoot a buck.
But honestly if im not killing them you are with your car
I don't think paintballs would be a very effective means of controlling invasive species. Killing feral animals is a good thing. And yes, its fun. Not because killing things is fun, but because its really satisfying to nail those destructive bastards. Its like shooting a paper target, only there is a purpose to it, and its fun because its much more challenging. I'm not going to listen to you tell me that its wrong to kill invasive feral animals that destroy both agricultural land and native ecosystems. As long as its done in an efficient and humane way, I don't see how you can possibly argue against it, even if you don't believe in eating meat.
As I said, I feel quite differently about shooting kangaroos. I do shoot one from time to time, but usually only to get meat for the dogs, or when the numbers on our property are very high.
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Why use guns if it's the thrill you're looking for? Anyone can pull a trigger.
When she walks around the property the ducks all follow her around like she's their mother. It's so cute. Where ever she goes, they go scampering after her:)
Hunters don't care that you despise them.
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Why so your mayor can send out the Gestapo to hunt them down?
Unless you are a vegetarian, I don't want to hear you criticize hunting.
Hunting is far more natural & humane than eating meat that comes out of slaughterhouses.
I'm not a big fan of hunting...meaning I won;t do it. That being said, I eat meat and realize where it comes from...so my distaste for hunting stems from only those hunters that do it for sport. Not much sport there unless you either arm the animals or take away the guns and make the sport hunters fight the animals in hand-to-paw/beak/whatever combat.
That would be a great reality show though.
What about fishing? Does fishing upset people as well? Or not so much since fish aren't "cute"?
Yeah, I don't fish either...without a supermarket, I'd have to be a vegetarian I think. I'm such a wuss.
You should look into grammar, too!
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=285025
I eat meat, but not all that much red meat.
I'm a gun.firearm owner, but not a true hunter. Although I do hunt on occasion. Only for food, never for sport.
I mostly just wanted to learn how to hunt properly. Never know when that skill may come in handy.
Seems rather racist against white folks.
Hmmm...wonder what the reaction would be if someone created a thread like that, regarding black people?
I'm going to guess we'd have a complete and total overly-liberal, overly-sensitive, overly-PC meltdown:D
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That's stupider than not killing it in the first place.
-Enoch Powell
That's actually a really good point. If some bad shit goes down, you may find yourself very glad that you have this skill.