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  • Kangaroo on the other hand is sensational and far more easily available. In Australia we should be now looking to reduce our beef industry and relace it with roo farms or sustainable harvesting. Far better for the environment because they do not have hard hooves which destroy riparian (riverbank) vegetation. They also require comparitively less water then cattle. And they have less fat and taste just as good.

    I'd debate the tasting good part. Give me a lamb chop or a rump steak anyday. I reckon roo meat tastes like. . . . well, dead kangaroo. That's just personal preference, but there are other problems too. Roo meat is not subject to the same quality and health standards as conventional meats. The only real requirement is that the animal is shot in head, not the body, and that the carcass is delivered to cold storage within a certain time frame (I think its 12 hours). There have been attempts to farm roos, but they've all been pretty unsuccessful as far as I'm aware. We have a very long way to go before we can develop any kind of viable roo farming industry. I think the biggest problem is handling them. Trying to yard and transport an animal that doesn't really move in mobs that way sheep and cattle do and can jump over a six foot high fence would be difficult to say the least. The only real way to get them to a meatworks is to kill them on farm, which introduces all kinds of new problems.

    There are also issues with parasites. I've seen the inside of a lot of roos, and its not uncommon to find big worms that live inside the muscle tissue.
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  • Scubascott wrote:
    I'd debate the tasting good part. Give me a lamb chop or a rump steak anyday. I reckon roo meat tastes like. . . . well, dead kangaroo. That's just personal preference, but there are other problems too. Roo meat is not subject to the same quality and health standards as conventional meats. The only real requirement is that the animal is shot in head, not the body, and that the carcass is delivered to cold storage within a certain time frame (I think its 12 hours). There have been attempts to farm roos, but they've all been pretty unsuccessful as far as I'm aware. We have a very long way to go before we can develop any kind of viable roo farming industry. I think the biggest problem is handling them. Trying to yard and transport an animal that doesn't really move in mobs that way sheep and cattle do and can jump over a six foot high fence would be difficult to say the least. The only real way to get them to a meatworks is to kill them on farm, which introduces all kinds of new problems.

    There are also issues with parasites. I've seen the inside of a lot of roos, and its not uncommon to find big worms that live inside the muscle tissue.

    The taste is subjective I guess, and Roo is easy to stuff up. Personally I think it is pretty good.

    As for the farming- you are right that it does present difficulties. I am sure a way could be found though. The parasites are not too much of an issue I think- most of the parasites in Australian land animals tend to be less of a health issue to humans then many species of fish.

    I guess I just view the decreased environmental damage and decreased water useage as too good to ignore. I feel like the farming of a native animal would have to be better then the farming of introduced live stock- although there may be questions of practicality as you point out.

    In the meantime the controlled harvesting in overpopulated areas seems to be working well enough to supply current demands and keep the price low.

    Now if we could just convince people to let us eat those stinkin koalas....
  • halvhalv Posts: 701
    i personally do not care for hunting, at all. however, to label an entire group of people....even those who mount animal heads on their walls, as having 'underlying issues'...is taking it a bit far imho. one of my very first BFs came from a 'hunting family'...and i do not live in an area for hunting, nor an environment that fosters hunters. yes, they had animal heads in their home, animals they shot and killed. however, they also ate all the meat from these animals too. while i do not have specific figures, i'd hazard a guess and say that most hunters eat what they kill. sure, there may be a few who try it out for 'sport'....but i'd say most are regulars. in my own extended family, i have many cousins who are aivd hunters, and just as avid eaters of any game they kill. i honestly fail to see much difference between buying meat in the market...or going out and killing it yourself. now for one who is a vegetarian or vegan, there i can see one tsaking issue. otherwise...hey, at least hunters are willing to do the work to get their food. sure, it's a 'sport'.....but most use the animal meat as well.

    Even when I ate meat I found it odd that someone could enjoy killing an animal for fun. I admit my own hypocrisy at the time as I did eat meat. I chose to be willfully ignorant to what happened to the animals that ended up on my plate as many continue to do. But to go out and kill for kicks....it's just beyond me. Heard of golf, football, baseball, hockey....even a shooting range? These seem like some pretty decent alternative "sports" and nothing has to die. Even if the hunter eats the meat, they are still enjoying the act of killing. Personally that seems odd and a little scary.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    The taste is subjective I guess, and Roo is easy to stuff up. Personally I think it is pretty good.

    As for the farming- you are right that it does present difficulties. I am sure a way could be found though. The parasites are not too much of an issue I think- most of the parasites in Australian land animals tend to be less of a health issue to humans then many species of fish.

    I guess I just view the decreased environmental damage and decreased water useage as too good to ignore. I feel like the farming of a native animal would have to be better then the farming of introduced live stock- although there may be questions of practicality as you point out.

    In the meantime the controlled harvesting in overpopulated areas seems to be working well enough to supply current demands and keep the price low.

    Now if we could just convince people to let us eat those stinkin koalas....
    I like the way you think in regards to non-native animals and their farming.

    What does koala taste like? ;)
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  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    DOSW wrote:
    Sorry, but I'm not a caveman. I actually want to control my barbaric urges.

    Too bad. A few million years of instinct is hard to beat as far as rushes go. I guess you are just more evolved than us.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    lol@ rushlimbo's obvious troll attempt.

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  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    69charger wrote:
    Too bad. A few million years of instinct is hard to beat as far as rushes go. I guess you are just more evolved than us.

    I'd say more civilized is a better way to describe it.

    A million years of instinct also encourages us to kill fellow humans, but most of us manage to suppress that urge. It's the same principle.
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    DOSW wrote:
    I'd say more civilized is a better way to describe it.

    A million years of instinct also encourages us to kill fellow humans, but most of us manage to suppress that urge. It's the same principle.

    Killing a whitetail is one of the greatest accomplishments of my life.
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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    miller8966 wrote:
    Killing a whitetail is one of the greatest accomplishments of my life.
    Sound like a boring life:)
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  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    miller8966 wrote:
    Killing a whitetail is one of the greatest accomplishments of my life.

    Can you even hear what you're saying? Sometimes you Moving Train conservatives just make me want to vomit.
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Collin wrote:
    Sound like a boring life:)

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  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    miller8966 wrote:
    Killing a whitetail is one of the greatest accomplishments of my life.

    Sounds like a life wasted if this is true.
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  • tybird wrote:
    What does koala taste like? ;)

    Like a furry eucalyptus cough lolly.
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Like a furry eucalyptus cough lolly.
    Sounds yummy :rolleyes:
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  • Rushlimbo wrote:
    This pretty much sums up the ignorance of [black people]. "Duh, I thunk the duk wuz ded." [Black people] are a special class of dumbass.
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    This pretty much sums up the ignorance of [muslims]. "Duh, I thunk the duk wuz ded." [Muslims] are a special class of dumbass.
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    This pretty much sums up the ignorance of [tall people]. "Duh, I thunk the duk wuz ded." [Tall people] are a special class of dumbass.

    ...
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Well what did you expect from a tall black Muslim hunter?
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  • Collin wrote:
    Well what did you expect from a tall black Muslim hunter?

    Insane generalizations, that's what ;)
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  • The taste is subjective I guess, and Roo is easy to stuff up. Personally I think it is pretty good.

    I think its pyschological for me. I used to think it tasted pretty good when I was a kid, but since then I've shot a lot of roos, and now I associate the smell of roo meat with dog food. I can't stand the bloody stuff now. I agree that it is much better if its cooked properly (ie hardly cooked at all). Overcooked roo meat tastes like tanned anus.
    As for the farming- you are right that it does present difficulties. I am sure a way could be found though. The parasites are not too much of an issue I think- most of the parasites in Australian land animals tend to be less of a health issue to humans then many species of fish.

    I'm sure the worms are harmless to eat. They might even be good for you, but they wouldn't do much for the market value. Anyway, that's the kind of thing that could probably be overcome with chemical treatment.
    I guess I just view the decreased environmental damage and decreased water useage as too good to ignore. I feel like the farming of a native animal would have to be better then the farming of introduced live stock- although there may be questions of practicality as you point out.

    In the meantime the controlled harvesting in overpopulated areas seems to be working well enough to supply current demands and keep the price low.

    Yep, I'm sure it could be done, but it will take a very patient and enterprising person to figure out how.
    Now if we could just convince people to let us eat those stinkin koalas....

    Bloody oath! The bastards were howling and grunting outside my bedroom window the other night. I was tempted to go out there, climb the tree and eat him then and there.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Scubascott wrote:

    Bloody oath! The bastards were howling and grunting outside my bedroom window the other night. I was tempted to go out there, climb the tree and eat him then and there.
    I heard that eating them does wonders for a sore throat. :)
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  • halv wrote:
    Even when I ate meat I found it odd that someone could enjoy killing an animal for fun. I admit my own hypocrisy at the time as I did eat meat. I chose to be willfully ignorant to what happened to the animals that ended up on my plate as many continue to do. But to go out and kill for kicks....it's just beyond me. Heard of golf, football, baseball, hockey....even a shooting range? These seem like some pretty decent alternative "sports" and nothing has to die. Even if the hunter eats the meat, they are still enjoying the act of killing. Personally that seems odd and a little scary.

    The fun isn't in the killing, its in the hunting. I don't particularly enjoy killing animals, but I enjoy going shooting. And it is a pretty satisfying feeling when you nail a feral animal like a pig or a fox. I only ever shoot a roo when we need meat for the dogs. I get just as much of a kick out of hunting native animals with a camera though.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Scubascott wrote:
    The fun isn't in the killing, its in the hunting. I don't particularly enjoy killing animals, but I enjoy going shooting. And it is a pretty satisfying feeling when you nail a feral animal like a pig or a fox. I only ever shoot a roo when we need meat for the dogs. I get just as much of a kick out of hunting native animals with a camera though.
    That's the idea.......kill invasive non-native animals!!!! Because of my love for nature and native flora and fauna, I firmly believe in culling out destructive non-native animals.........feral domestic cats, European Starlings, feral non-native hogs, non-native foxes and such must go!!!!!

    Thankfully the game commission in Alabama decided that hunters can bag as many Eurasian Collared Doves as they can shoot. It is a non-native species that is threatening native species.
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  • tybird wrote:
    That's the idea.......kill invasive non-native animals!!!! Because of my love for nature and native flora and fauna, I firmly believe in culling out destructive non-native animals.........feral domestic cats, European Starlings, feral non-native hogs, non-native foxes and such must go!!!!!

    Thankfully the game commission in Alabama decided that hunters can bag as many Eurasian Collared Doves as they can shoot. It is a non-native species that is threatening native species.

    I think the only introduced animals that are regulated or protected in any way here are the various species of trout and salmon that can be found in the cooler southern regions. Personally I hate the bastards, because they prey on native fish species, and have probably caused a couple to go extinct. The only problem is that they're so much fun to catch!

    Everything else here is fair game, pigs, goats, foxes, rabbits, hares, deer, etc.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Scubascott wrote:
    I think the only introduced animals that are regulated or protected in any way here are the various species of trout and salmon that can be found in the cooler southern regions. Personally I hate the bastards, because they prey on native fish species, and have probably caused a couple to go extinct. The only problem is that they're so much fun to catch!

    Everything else here is fair game, pigs, goats, foxes, rabbits, hares, deer, etc.
    ...........and Cane Toads????

    Someone initially released some wild hogs on a nearby National Wildlife Refuge.....that person should be feed to the hogs. It was a ploy to strong-arm the refuge into having an open season on hogs.
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  • tybird wrote:
    ...........and Cane Toads????

    Someone initially released some wild hogs on a nearby National Wildlife Refuge.....that person should be feed to the hogs. It was a ploy to strong-arm the refuge into having an open season on hogs.

    Heh, yeah and cane toads. We don't have any down here. I'm too far south. The queenslanders seem to make a sport of killing them though. Ask climberinoz, he's from Townsville.
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  • Scubascott wrote:
    Heh, yeah and cane toads. We don't have any down here. I'm too far south. The queenslanders seem to make a sport of killing them though. Ask climberinoz, he's from Townsville.

    Killing toads is now becoming less and less popular, on account of 2 things:

    The RSPCA has decided that they will charge anyone with killing them in a cruel way, and they are also a lot less populous then they used to be. Their population seems to explode when they first get to an area and then it reduces a little after a while. Still a major menace though- they have put numerous species of native australian wildlife on the edge of extinction. At the wildlife park where I work, we lost our 60kg cassowary because she ingested a toad (we think it might have been covered in green algae, making it look like a frog- which they do eat). She died within 40 minutes.

    I won't kill them with golf clubs like some do, but I will run them over in my car. Becomes a traffic hazard in North Queensland as cars swerve all over the road to get them.

    One of the single greatest threats to Northern Wildlife.
  • satansbedbugssatansbedbugs On Tour Posts: 2,412
    NCBRI wrote:
    If that duck survived all that, then he deserves to live.


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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    btw duck tastes awesome.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    miller8966 wrote:
    btw duck tastes awesome.
    True.......if prepared properly. This duck was originally shot for eating......a female Ring-necked Duck is a very plain brown bird......not a real candidate for stuffing and mounting.
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  • moeaholicmoeaholic Posts: 535
    miller8966 wrote:
    btw duck tastes awesome.

    especially if prepared with raspberry sauce.
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