Venezuela buying arms for terrorists

PaperPlates

El_Kabong wrote:

can you cite a single post here that has said anything close to that?

that being said jlew24asu raped my dog and cats. there, i need no proof, i'm just like he government, i can blame anyone i want and never have to worry about backing it up.

no one is saying usama is a great guy or someone we trust to never tell a lie. this administration, however seems addicted to lying. so there is nothing wrong w/ asking for proof from the mouth of a liar. what proof is there? i don't understand why he'd lie in person than make some confession tape where he's heavier than he has ever been, is writing w/ his wrong hand and wearing gold which is forbidden and you'd think he would follow the rules being surrounded by a bunch of religious fundies. that's like jerry falwell wearing an ac/dc or led zeppelin shirt around

\Or like uber faithful jihad loving terrorists partying it up at the strip club the night before martyrdom. Oh wait, that is what they do. Lots of talk of faith, all I see is murdering cowards. If you dislike people accusing you of loving chavez, osama, fidel and all the other pieces of shit out there, then stop buying into their rhetoric, and stop showing so much love for them.

El_Kabong

PaperPlates wrote:

I think your broken record just skipped.

what, in your eyes, makes him a threat to us?

El_Kabong

PaperPlates wrote:

\Or like uber faithful jihad loving terrorists partying it up at the strip club the night before martyrdom. Oh wait, that is what they do. Lots of talk of faith, all I see is murdering cowards. If you dislike people accusing you of loving chavez, osama, fidel and all the other pieces of shit out there, then stop buying into their rhetoric, and stop showing so much love for them.

when did i show love for them???? are you going to 'stop showing so much love' for the pieces of shit in this administration?

your first reply said
"as par for the course, its only Rummy and big bad Bush you focus on. Nevermind the fact that Hugo's own neighboring countries are worried as well. "

then it was pointed out that those very neighboring countries said they are NOT worried...so instead of even admitting that you say they are trying to sound tough...then how do you know they are worried!?!?! the only thing you have to point to that is rummy's words!

PaperPlates

El_Kabong wrote:

what, in your eyes, makes him a threat to us?

Rushlimbo? nothing. He's just talk.


But Chavez? He's not a threat. Any more than the liberals of THIS country are.

And to your below post, I dont have "love for bush, cheney and rummy." I just know that all the worlds problems aren't THEIR fault, and I like to believe they have our nations best interests at heart. THey ALL were already rich as rich can be. And powerful. I see no motive to "ruin the country" as some are so eager to accuse them of. Every President has had his obstacles, his high points, and his failures. Im sorry that Clinton was so easily made fun of, and sooooooooooooooo imperfect. Im sorry you had to sit through all the ricidule. And I even understand your bitter need for payback. It just gets old. You want proof of EVERY thing they tell us. First off, they arent obliged to prove jack shit to you, me or anyone else. I dont recall any president explaining his choices he made to Joe Public. And this demand of proof comes from a guy who has so many cockamamie conspiracy theory's running through his brain totally devoid of any proof, yet you treat them like gospel. You really are like a cartoon character. I enjoy reading your posts, and thank god every day that there are far more people out there like me, than you. Have a nice day.

Rushlimbo

PaperPlates wrote:

Rushlimbo? nothing. He's just talk.


But Chavez? He's not a threat. Any more than the liberals of THIS country are.

Last time we took an enemy lightly, they knocked down two big tall buildings of ours. Noone took lil osama and his crazy rantings seriously during the clinton era, nor during the first few months of the Bush Jr. era. Look how that turned out. So, I'm figuring, IF they're worried, they arent going to want to make too big a deal, so as to avoid undue panic/paranoia amongst the public. And a Nicaraguan military official saying he's not concerned about Chavez is more of a "machismo" slap in the face to Chavez, and chest thumping. As par for the course, you fail to see the big picture. I'd rather they "worry unecessarily" about a fat little Venezuelan than not worry at all, and wish they had.

Please try to keep your argument straight. Thanks.

El_Kabong

PaperPlates wrote:

Rushlimbo? nothing. He's just talk.


But Chavez? He's not a threat. Any more than the liberals of THIS country are.

And to your below post, I dont have "love for bush, cheney and rummy." I just know that all the worlds problems aren't THEIR fault, and I like to believe they have our nations best interests at heart. THey ALL were already rich as rich can be. And powerful. I see no motive to "ruin the country" as some are so eager to accuse them of. Every President has had his obstacles, his high points, and his failures. Im sorry that Clinton was so easily made fun of, and sooooooooooooooo imperfect. Im sorry you had to sit through all the ricidule. And I even understand your bitter need for payback. It just gets old. You want proof of EVERY thing they tell us. First off, they arent obliged to prove jack shit to you, me or anyone else. I dont recall any president explaining his choices he made to Joe Public. And this demand of proof comes from a guy who has so many cockamamie conspiracy theory's running through his brain totally devoid of any proof, yet you treat them like gospel. You really are like a cartoon character. I enjoy reading your posts, and thank god every day that there are far more people out there like me, than you. Have a nice day.

what payback? i voted against clinton. so in other words you have no proof usama did it, you are just taking their word for it? it's sad you think our government doesn't owe us any explanations or proof to back up what they say. i can see you in your nice jack boots marching in lockstep following orders. even sadder you see questioning things so negatively

did cheney have our best interests at heart when he was doing business w/ 2/3 of the axis of evil and syria as well as other enemies? did he have our best interest at heart when clinton fined him for illegally doing business w/ saddam?

macgyver06

wonder if Rumsfeld knows where alot of the money and weapons is coming from in the middle east...blowing our troops up?

macgyver06

whats the best way to make firepower dissapear?? oh ya...use it!

Rushlimbo

El_Kabong wrote:

what payback? i voted against clinton. so in other words you have no proof usama did it, you are just taking their word for it? it's sad you think our government doesn't owe us any explanations or proof to back up what they say. i can see you in your nice jack boots marching in lockstep following orders. even sadder you see questioning things so negatively

did cheney have our best interests at heart when he was doing business w/ 2/3 of the axis of evil and syria as well as other enemies? did he have our best interest at heart when clinton fined him for illegally doing business w/ saddam?

Dont throw facts at PP. He likes unsubstantiated rhetoric and pundit talking points. I cannot believe someone still believes Rumsfeld's words. Just sad. It does explain the state of this nation. He will fit in with the snitch squad under a dictatorship.

El_Kabong

Rushlimbo wrote:

Dont throw facts at PP. He likes unsubstantiated rhetoric and pundit talking points. I cannot believe someone still believes Rumsfeld's words. Just sad. It does explain the state of this nation. He will fit in with the snitch squad under a dictatorship.

tell me about it, he talks about me having all these cockamanie ideas devoid of any proof...yet he swears by things just b/c rummy or this administration say so! talk about irony. it's kinda like those religious nuts who can only answer 'it says it in the bible!' 'the administration said it, so it's just gotta be true!' lol

just dont say 'meathead' or he may cry again

PaperPlates

El_Kabong wrote:

what payback? i voted against clinton. so in other words you have no proof usama did it, you are just taking their word for it? it's sad you think our government doesn't owe us any explanations or proof to back up what they say. i can see you in your nice jack boots marching in lockstep following orders. even sadder you see questioning things so negatively

did cheney have our best interests at heart when he was doing business w/ 2/3 of the axis of evil and syria as well as other enemies? did he have our best interest at heart when clinton fined him for illegally doing business w/ saddam?

Nice nazi reference, when in doubt, insult me. Your insults matter about as much as your opinions. Zero in the real world. Good luck with your ideals. Hope they get you far in life.

Since you're so big on proof, what's yours? I call it like I see it. You nor anyone else has proved any of the dipshit things you guys come up with. Your rantings arent even opinions, and they certainly arent yours. Talking points? You two are walking talking points. Like you said, talk about irony.

Rushlimbo

PaperPlates wrote:

Nice nazi reference, when in doubt, insult me. Your insults matter about as much as your opinions. Zero in the real world. Good luck with your ideals. Hope they get you far in life.

Since you're so big on proof, what's yours? I call it like I see it. You nor anyone else has proved any of the dipshit things you guys come up with. Your rantings arent even opinions, and they certainly arent yours. Talking points? You two are walking talking points. Like you said, talk about irony.

If Rummy told you there was an Al Queda cell in Venezuela would you believe it? How about if Rummy got ya on his knee and told ya he knew Santa Claus -- would ya believe that too? Believing everything these morons say is beyond ignorant at this point. Obviously you are void of ideals which makes you an empty shell and exactly what a government would want. I feel sorry for you (almost).

PaperPlates

Rushlimbo wrote:

If Rummy told you there was an Al Queda cell in Venezuela would you believe it? How about if Rummy got ya on his knee and told ya he knew Santa Claus -- would ya believe that too? Believing everything these morons say is beyond ignorant at this point. Obviously you are void of ideals which makes you an empty shell and exactly what a government would want. I feel sorry for you (almost).

You have me pegged. I am an empty shell, seem so easy to crack, I got all these questions, and I have El Kabong to ask.

If my government, its security agencies, the men and women who work day in and day out to keep us relatively safe in this very unsafe world tell me something, barring me flying down and verifying, yea, im pretty much forced to believe it. Do you just disbelieve just for the sake of disbelieving? I feel sad for you. (almost)

jlew24asu

PaperPlates wrote:

You have me pegged. I am an empty shell, seem so easy to crack, I got all these questions, and I have El Kabong to ask.

If my government, its security agencies, the men and women who work day in and day out to keep us relatively safe in this very unsafe world tell me something, barring me flying down and verifying, yea, im pretty much forced to believe it. Do you just disbelieve just for the sake of disbelieving? I feel sad for you. (almost)

sounds reasonable to me.

Cosmo

I think the real issue here is the fact that they are AK-74s, Su-27s and MiG-29s instead of M-16s, F-15s and F-16s.

Rushlimbo

PaperPlates wrote:

You have me pegged. I am an empty shell

I bet you feel liberated. Blind trust of the government is both dangerous and ignorant.

PaperPlates

Rushlimbo wrote:

I bet you feel liberated. Blind trust of the government is both dangerous and ignorant.

And blind ignorant lieberals are even more dangerous.

Song break for Rush's angry little head. I believe this sums you and your ilk up well.


There's a place in the world for the angry young man
With his working class ties and his radical plans
He refuses to bend he refuses to crawl
And he's always at home with his back to the wall
And he's proud of his scars and the battles he's lost
And struggles and bleeds as he hangs on his cross
And likes to be known as the angry young man

Give a moment or two to the angry young man
With his foot in his mouth and his heart in his hand
He's been stabbed in the back he's been misunderstood
It's a comfort to know his intentions are good
And he sits in his room with a lock on the door
With his maps and his medals laid out on the floor
And he likes to be known as the angry young man

I believe I've passed the age of consciousness and righteous
rage
I found that just surviving was a noble fight
I once believed in causes too
I had my pointless point of view
And life went on no matter who was wrong or right

And there's always a place for the angry young man
With his fist in the air and his head in the sand
And he's never been able to learn from mistakes
So he can't understand why his heart always breaks
And his honor is pure and his courage is well
And he's fair and he's true and he's boring as hell
And he'll go to the grave as an angry old man

Yes there's always a place for the angry young man
With his working class ties and his radical plans
He refuses to bend he refuses to crawl
And he's always at home with his back to the wall
And he's proud of his scars and the battles he's lost
And struggles and bleeds as he hangs on his cross
And likes to be known as the angry young man

SPEEDY MCCREADY

PaperPlates wrote:

And blind ignorant lieberals are even more dangerous.

Song break for Rush's angry little head. I believe this sums you and your ilk up well.


There's a place in the world for the angry young man
With his working class ties and his radical plans
He refuses to bend he refuses to crawl
And he's always at home with his back to the wall
And he's proud of his scars and the battles he's lost
And struggles and bleeds as he hangs on his cross
And likes to be known as the angry young man

Give a moment or two to the angry young man
With his foot in his mouth and his heart in his hand
He's been stabbed in the back he's been misunderstood
It's a comfort to know his intentions are good
And he sits in his room with a lock on the door
With his maps and his medals laid out on the floor
And he likes to be known as the angry young man

I believe I've passed the age of consciousness and righteous
rage
I found that just surviving was a noble fight
I once believed in causes too
I had my pointless point of view
And life went on no matter who was wrong or right

And there's always a place for the angry young man
With his fist in the air and his head in the sand
And he's never been able to learn from mistakes
So he can't understand why his heart always breaks
And his honor is pure and his courage is well
And he's fair and he's true and he's boring as hell
And he'll go to the grave as an angry old man

Yes there's always a place for the angry young man
With his working class ties and his radical plans
He refuses to bend he refuses to crawl
And he's always at home with his back to the wall
And he's proud of his scars and the battles he's lost
And struggles and bleeds as he hangs on his cross
And likes to be known as the angry young man

you are on a roll tonight....hehehehe

PaperPlates

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

you are on a roll tonight....hehehehe

And as far as I can tell, I've obeyed EVERY rule on this forum.

Some others however.............................



Lets see if they get what I seem to always get. Im guessing the conservative will end up with an unexplained 3 week ban, whilst the others around here stooping to insults and outright rudeness will get a pat on the back and a free can of Patchouli.



BTW, hiya speedy! how goes it?

SPEEDY MCCREADY

PaperPlates wrote:

And as far as I can tell, I've obeyed EVERY rule on this forum.

Some others however.............................



Lets see if they get what I seem to always get. Im guessing the conservative will end up with an unexplained 3 week ban, whilst the others around here stooping to insults and outright rudeness will get a pat on the back and a free can of Patchouli.



BTW, hiya speedy! how goes it?

they thru me out 2 weeks ago for calling someone a F*CKING LIAR........

and you know damn well how it will turn out for you....

see you in 3 weeks.....hehehehe